JF-17B Updates, News & Discussion

[Haris Ali2140]

What is the role of these 8 in PAF? 100 JF-17 already flying so they are not here to train PAF pilots for thunders?
Recon? Or for export?

Export,Recon and LIFT.

 

[khanasifm]

So no update I think block 3 stole the fury no one paying attention here ??

 

[blinder]

Yes, you're correct brother.

This clears the numbering confusion of 2P-68B as the fourth aircraft which means 2P-65B and including 2P-72B are the 8 dual seaters from Pakistan.

Total PAF Bravos by end of 2019: 10
01 / 17-601: Made in China
02 / 19-602: Made in China (first flew in 2017)

Thanks for the clarification.

CAC 01 f/f 27 April 2017 became 17-601
CAC 02 f/f 7 December 2017 is still in China
CAC 03 f/f 3 August 2018 became 19-602
These three do not have 2P-numbers, those are only used by PAC as far as I know.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

CAC 01 f/f 27 April 2017 became 17-601
CAC 02 f/f 7 December 2017 is still in China
CAC 03 f/f 3 August 2018 became 19-602
These three do not have 2P-numbers, those are only used by PAC as far as I know.

Do you have photos of CAC 01 and CAC 03 in yellow primer?

 

[GriffinsRule]

17-601

 

[blinder]

Do you have photos of CAC 01 and CAC 03 in yellow primer?

Taken in Pakistan 11 April 2018 (c) Zohaib Malik / Falcons.pk:

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17B-Thunder/2164

And another, same source & credit as above, but taken 12 September 2018:

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17B-Thunder/2040

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Taken in Pakistan 11 April 2018 (c) Zohaib Malik / Falcons.pk:

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17B-Thunder/2164

And another, same source & credit as above, but taken 12 September 2018:

http://falcons.pk/photo/JF-17B-Thunder/2040

Thank you brother.

17-601
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Thanks brother. That clears a lot in respect to 17-601.

The production number format BC0001, is it only used in CAC or PAC as well? I'm sure I've seen other aircrafts on production lines with the same numbering format.

 

[blinder]

Thank you brother.



Thanks brother. That clears a lot in respect to 17-601.

The production number format BC0001, is it only used in CAC or PAC as well? I'm sure I've seen other aircrafts on production lines with the same numbering format.

My pleasure.
The Chinese have a system, as far as I can ascertain, using prefix for the type followed by a batch and sequence number.
Prototypes do not have a batch number, so after the prefix usually have some zeros and then a sequence number.
The prototypes and preproduction single seaters are FC10001 to FC10010 and the dual seaters are BC0001 to BC0003. The production aircraft are FC10101 and BC010001 and so on.

During production in China, CAC applies these on the primer airframes.
Also, PAC uses these during assembly, on paper stuck to the plane. See:

)

During test flights in China, sometimes just the batch and sequence number is painted on in big red numerals (like with JF17 213 and 229, I think photos exist of those.) The prototypes only use the last two (there is no production batch number, so that part is omitted from protypes), so 01, 02, 03. And yes, 3000 is bit a-typical, that is why I think it may be a 'hybrid' aircraft used as pattern aircraft for avionics, so not 001 but 000...

During production in Pakistan the P-xx (for Block I), 2P-xx (for Block II) and 2P-xxB (for Block II B) are used while the aircraft are entering flight test in primer.
After painting in grey, they receive the FC1 numbers, painted in small numbers on various places.
FC10101 and so on for Block I, FC10201 and so on for Block II.
I have not seen a BC01 number on a grey production aircraft yet.
Only BC0003 on pre-production 19-602 (so: ex '03').

Export aircraft may be in this FC01/BC01 sequence too, but when the configuration is different, that will be reflected in the production number. So, the Myanmar single seat aircraft are FC15201. The 5 has something to do with the Ruby subtype, the 2 is for Block II and 01 is the first in that batch. Or the 5 can be the 5th configuration (block 1 to 3 for PAF, 4 for Nigeria, 5 for Myanmar who can tell??)

So some clarification and some more puzzles, sorry about my lack in understanding Chinese logic for those

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

My pleasure.
The Chinese have a system, as far as I can ascertain, using prefix for the type followed by a batch and sequence number.
Prototypes do not have a batch number, so after the prefix usually have some zeros and then a sequence number.
The prototypes and preproduction single seaters are FC10001 to FC10010 and the dual seaters are BC0001 to BC0003. The production aircraft are FC10101 and BC010001 and so on.

During production in China, CAC applies these on the primer airframes.
Also, PAC uses these during assembly, on paper stuck to the plane. See:

)

During test flights in China, sometimes just the batch and sequence number is painted on in big red numerals (like with JF17 213 and 229, I think photos exist of those.) The prototypes only use the last two (there is no production batch number, so that part is omitted from protypes), so 01, 02, 03. And yes, 3000 is bit a-typical, that is why I think it may be a 'hybrid' aircraft used as pattern aircraft for avionics, so not 001 but 000...

During production in Pakistan the P-xx (for Block I), 2P-xx (for Block II) and 2P-xxB (for Block II B) are used while the aircraft are entering flight test in primer.
After painting in grey, they receive the FC1 numbers, painted in small numbers on various places.
FC10101 and so on for Block I, FC10201 and so on for Block II.
I have not seen a BC01 number on a grey production aircraft yet.
Only BC0003 on pre-production 19-602 (so: ex '03').

Export aircraft may be in this FC01/BC01 sequence too, but when the configuration is different, that will be reflected in the production number. So, the Myanmar single seat aircraft are FC15201. The 5 has something to do with the Ruby subtype, the 2 is for Block II and 01 is the first in that batch. Or the 5 can be the 5th configuration (block 1 to 3 for PAF, 4 for Nigeria, 5 for Myanmar who can tell??)

So some clarification and some more puzzles, sorry about my lack in understanding Chinese logic for those

Thanks brother. I'm going to save your comments and use it as reference for some of the serial numbers that are not clear to me yet.

 

[Kingslayerr]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1211203243021393920

 

[aziqbal]

Balakot showed us this

Ground attack strike, Indian responded and follow up aircraft intercept

JF17 did the H2/H4 ground attack and F16 had the situational awareness using advanced avionics to launch air to air missiles

now JF17B can do ground attack by using targeting pod by fire and forget unlike the H2/H4 bombs

JF17 Block III has the ASEA link 17 and situational awareness enjoyed by F16

ZDK-03 will allow it

we are in good shape, PAF need to formulate new tactics

 

[Viper27]

Some of these JF-17Bs have MAWs as well. So it does appear they'll be used for strike role.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

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What does the number stand for?

 

[LKJ86]

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[Pakistan Space Agency]

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Is this legit? This must be the second prototype that's still in China.

@GriffinsRule @HRK