JF-17 Thunder performing during Dubai Air Show 2017

[VCheng]

I was talking about the expected upgrade roll outs

I am sure the platform will be developed according to a well thought out plan. We have already seen the IFR probe, a huge boost for its endurance. I am sure other upgrades will come along as planned.

 

[El Sidd]

I am sure the platform will be developed according to a well thought out plan. We have already seen the IFR probe, a huge boost for its endurance. I am sure other upgrades will come along as planned.

I meant announced marketable upgrades.
The market changes faster than you can imagine.

 

[VCheng]

I meant announced marketable upgrades.
The market changes faster than you can imagine.

A better than unity T:W ratio would work wonders, but I am sure that will happen at some point too:


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Currently, it is not quite there yet at a thrust to weight ratio of 1:1.1, meaning it has less thrust than weight.

 

[CriticalThought]

A better than unity T:W ratio would work wonders, but I am sure that will happen at some point too:


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Currently, it is not quite there yet at a thrust to weight ratio of 1:1.1, meaning it has less thrust than weight.

Incorrect. It all depends on the load out. In 2 BVR/2 WVR configuration with no external fuel tanks, the T/W is approx. 1.09.

 

[Raider 21]

 

[I.R.A]

secondly Pakistan aims to match the Suzuki Mehran sales numbers with JF 17.

Are you saying that Pakistan wants to drop the Suzuki Mehran sales number to match the JF-17 sales? Or are you wishing JF-17 sales gets a boost to match Suzuki Mehran sales?

 

[CriticalThought]

Better than Sunday's performance, but I somehow see more smoke? Maybe the first video wasn't too clear...

 

[SherDil]

Better than Sunday's performance, but I somehow see more smoke? Maybe the first video wasn't too clear...

Much better performance than the previous one.

 

[python-000]

hopefully Pakistan will send JF-17 Block 3 for next Dubai exhibition

 

[GDP Adil Khan Niazi]

In case you miss any action specially from Pakistan Air Force, here it is below the official video uploaded by the media cell of PAF. Enjoy (Y)

https://www.facebook.com/

 

[VCheng]

Incorrect. It all depends on the load out. In 2 BVR/2 WVR configuration with no external fuel tanks, the T/W is approx. 1.09.

I am only quoting Wing Cdr Ronald himself said about this matter. If you know better than him, of course I can accept that too. No problem.

 

[Raider 21]

Where is TEEJAAAA..........

Maintain discipline....keep the thread about the JF-17 at Dubai, nothing to do with the Tejas.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

What would the commentators say???? Here's the aircraft neiher IAF nor IN wants!!!!! However, it has some Vedic staffs in it!!!!

Very astute observation my friend.

 

[chaklala2]

I did not see any air craft in DAS do verticle loops... can u see the displays and point to right part??? May be we missing some thing

That is my whole point that very few displays show this loop maneuvre it simply because it is hard to pull off at low altitudes in tight envelopes...if you gain enough speed and go very high that destroys the maneuvre...to do it the way PAF F-16s do it is not that easy...my point is that this is the maneuver that very few AFs have perfected on an F-16 and I have only seen this from PAF F-16s...even the Turks don't do this. The only other place I have seen this is with the Eurofighter and the Thunderbirds show this as well. My feeling is that they don't do this on a JF-17 simply because it cannot show this in a tight envelope and low speeds as the F-16 does it...can any expert confirm this? Remember..anyone can do this maneuver as long as the initial speed is high...the hard part is to do this at med-low speeds the way PAF F-16s do it...you can see the speed bleeding off quite a bit at the very top of the loop to a point that the F-16s seems almost stationary...this is not an easy manuevre and PAF F16 pilots have perfected it. But why don't they show this on JF-17? Again I am not expert but just my hypotheses

 

[Raider 21]

That is my whole point that very few displays show this loop maneuvre it simply because it is hard to pull off at low altitudes in tight envelopes...if you gain enough speed and go very high that destroys the maneuvre...to do it the way PAF F-16s do it is not that easy...my point is that this is the maneuver that very few AFs have perfected on an F-16 and I have only seen this from PAF F-16s...even the Turks don't do this. The only other place I have seen this is with the Eurofighter and the Thunderbirds show this as well. My feeling is that they don't do this on a JF-17 simply because it cannot show this in a tight envelope and low speeds as the F-16 does it...can any expert confirm this? Remember..anyone can do this maneuver as long as the initial speed is high...the hard part is to do this at med-low speeds the way PAF F-16s do it...you can see the speed bleeding off quite a bit at the very top of the loop to a point that the F-16s seems almost stationary...this is not an easy manuevre and PAF F16 pilots have perfected it. But why don't they show this on JF-17? Again I am not expert but just my hypotheses

UAE, USA, Netherlands, Belgium.....they all do full loops with their F-16s.