JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[imadul]

There is rumor of a Block-2+ variant, initially raised by Azerbaijan purchase speculation but now it is for PAF as well.

Since Block-3 will have a different engine and major internal changes which wont be feasible for upgrading on previous model. Block-2+ would be a block-2 JF-17 with an air cooled AESA radar which China claims is a bolt to bolt replacement as well as other electronic and minor upgrades.
The power consumption of the radar is low enough for existing system but with greatly enhanced capability.
For AA combat paired with updated, PL-10, SD-10s and PL-15s these will be able to stand their ground against even Rafaels. Also will be able to guide 4 missiles at a time so we might see Block-2+ with multi missile rails.
So even the existing fleet will pack more punch.

This is real and practical. Block 3 might be a generation ahead model so a block 2+ retrofitted model with AESA and future PL-15 and multi rack will be a very effective and deadly combination. All speculation and much will depend upon block 3 when it will be revealed.

 

[GriffinsRule]

There are no major internal changes. Yes, there is a new engine. Yes, it is under testing. Yes, it is specifically designed to replace jf17 existing engines as their life is about to end. More engines can not be procured from russia because of sanctions. So Pakistan is looking for a substitute in order to move away from this dependency. Hence that new engine is meant for all blocks (1,2,3)

There is no new engine. Pakistan has setup its facility to overhaul the RD-93. There are no sanctions that would preclude us buying more engines from Russia either. Stop spreading lies.

 

[araz]

There is no new engine. Pakistan has setup its facility to overhaul the RD-93. There are no sanctions that would preclude us buying more engines from Russia either. Stop spreading lies.

I think I agree with you. If there had been much disagreement PAF would not be talking of setting up RD93 overhaul facilities. This would be in keeping with their stated position. However minor upgrades to 93 could be on the cards.
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[aziqbal]

Ok heres my summary of JF17 I, II and II production after AIN article

JF17 Block I production rates 2007-2013

07-101 to 07-105 thats 5 units
08-106 to 08-108 that's 3 units
09-109 to 09-112 that's 4 units
10-113 to 10-128 that's 16 units
11-129 to 11-136 that's 8 units
12-137 to 12-142 that's 6 units
13-143 to 13-150 that's 8 units

7 years 50 aircraft x Block I

JF17 Block II production rates 2015-2018

15-201 to 15-216 that's 16 units
16-217 to 16-234 that's 18 units
17-235 to 17-250 that's 16 units
18-251 to 18-262 thats 12 units

4 years 62 aircraft x Block II

Prediction for Block III

50 x JF17 Block III and 26 x JF17B 2020-2024

20-301 to 20-302 thats 2 units
21-303 to 21-314 thats 12 units
22-315 to 22-326 thats 12 units
23-327 to 23-338 thats 12 units
24-339 to 24-350 thats 12 units

JF17B
8 x JF17B in 2019
14 x JF17B in 2020
4 x JF17B in 2021

5 years 76 aircraft x Block III and JF17B

Total Thunder fleet 188 units

 

[My-Analogous]

Sir Is PAF going to upgrade blk 1 to blk 3 ?

They are doing upgrades for Block 1 and 2. Block 3 is currently a new plane and still didn't roll out from production. PAF thinking to make all block AESA included. They are currently doing homework. Welcome to PDF

 

[Shahzaz ud din]

53rd Paris Air Show: PAF's JF-17 Thunder starts practice drills
By News Desk
Published: June 15, 2019
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53rd Paris Air Show to be held from 17th to 23 of this month at Le Bourget Airport in Paris. PHOTO COURTESY: RADIO PAKISTAN

Pakistan Air Force’s (PAF) JF-17 Thunder kicked off on Saturday its practice drills in the French capital for the 53rd Paris Air Show to be held from 17th to 23rd of this month at Le Bourget Airport.

The PAF contingent comprising three JF-17 Thunder aircraft along with the air and ground crew are in Paris to participate in the mega event, reported Radio Pakistan.

The PAF demo team practiced a series of aerobatic drills and is fully prepared to woo the spectators in the largest air show of the world.

One PAF JF-17 aircraft would perform flying display on each day of the show while the other would be put on static display showcasing its lethal and sophisticated weaponry.

The first four days of the show will be reserved for trade visitors, while the next three days will be open to the general public.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1139866723413307392

The JF-17 aerial display is considered to be a major attraction of the show, providing an opportunity to showcase its cutting edge capabilities.

It would also allow potential customers to assess its abilities and help its promotion in the international market.

Organised by the French Aerospace Industries Association, the Paris Air Show is the largest aerospace-industry exhibition type air show in the world in terms of the number of exhibitors and size of exhibit space.


Read more: JF-17 Thunder , Latest , PAF warm up drills

 

[khanasifm]

Article dates back to 2015. A lot of things changed in last 4 to 5 years.

That’s does not means other buyers will not adopt the mysterious ws-13

Same articles or different one complete version talked about in a months time bagaladesh trials of ws-13 based fc-1 at the same time

 

[sneakerspark]

There is no new engine. Pakistan has setup its facility to overhaul the RD-93. There are no sanctions that would preclude us buying more engines from Russia either. Stop spreading lies.

I suggest you to wait and see.

 

[devil302]

Engine would never be replaced note it

 

[My-Analogous]

Engine would never be replaced note it

Engine will be replaced with two options RD93MA(most likely selected) or WS13. But it is strongly believe that RD93 will be selected due to investment of Pakistan in that engine.

 

[JohnWick]

Engine will be replaced with two options RD93MA(most likely selected) or WS13. But it is strongly believe that RD93 will be selected due to investment of Pakistan in that engine.

Well according to me... I will buy a TOT of WS-13 from china....

 

[khanasifm]

Rd93ma is a version of rd93 and not a totally different engine there is commonality so initial investment in rd93 is not sunk cost cannot say much about mysterious ws13 but Paf is not going for it based on past interviews

 

[Sine Nomine]

Rd93ma is a version of rd93 and not a totally different engine there is commonality so initial investment in rd93 is not sunk cost cannot say much about mysterious ws13 but Paf is not going for it based on past interviews

RD93MA=RD-33MK sea wasp.

 

[mzeeshanfahd]

Now this is b3....... MODS >>>>>> IF I DON'T GET POSITIVE RATING FOR THIS ....... I WILL .....

 

[devil302]

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Now this is b3....... MODS >>>>>> IF I DON'T GET POSITIVE RATING FOR THIS ....... I WILL .....

nope this is no b3 its an old pic