JF-17 Thunder Multirole Fighter [Thread 7]

[Ultima Thule]

Yours is a better style for discussion.
Well, hasty patchwork has been done in KLJ v2, full results awaited. KLJ-AESA still a year away, or more. KLJ-7v1 no meaningful capability to support SD-10, though it constitutes bulk of our Thunder force. Eventually, it would come through, Insha Allah. I meant to state the present: here and now. What if something flares up now?
As of videos, recent Astra firing from a Sukhoi is a clear video showing a very clean motor ignition and flawless separation. Very neat exhaust plume and low smoke content. It shows at least *** end of this weapon is good. By no means Astra-Sukhoi combo assumed fit for op duty.

Read the post of @Bilal Khan 777 you trollhead @CombatSurgeon they are senior member telling that SD-10 are fully integrated to radar and avionics system of block1/2 you dickhead @CombatSurgeon

 

[Dazzler]

Claims who? It was not having any issues. SD-10 was one of the fastest BVR integrations in the history of third party WMMC and SMS integration. Why do you guys make up BS information?

Because they are fed that information often by false flaggers or so called some naive members.
I was among those who maintained that SD-10 was being integrated and might take some time as every weapon system does (the REK story) but some here even turned it into a lost cause.

Sir,

How comparable SD-10 is to Aim-120 that we have in our inventory?

Read the post of @Bilal Khan 777 you trollhead @CombatSurgeon they are senior member telling that SD-10 are fully integrated to radar and avionics system of block1/2 you dickhead @CombatSurgeon

Cam down comrade

 

[Sine Nomine]

I was among those who maintained that SD-10 was being integrated and might take some time as every weapon system does (the REK story) but some here even turned it into a lost cause.

That's it man.

 

[Furqan Sarwar]

Chill out guys. Let's ask IAF to send an Su30 and let's check whether SD-10A is operational or not

 

[Ultima Thule]

Because they are fed that information often by false flaggers or so called some naive members.
I was among those who maintained that SD-10 was being integrated and might take some time as every weapon system does (the REK story) but some here even turned it into a lost cause.




Cam down comrade

@CombatSurgeon iinsisted his crap that sd-10 is not operational with jf-17 without any prove, @CombatSurgeon IS DEFIANTLY A FALSE FLAGGER AND CONTINUED B@RKING

 

[CombatSurgeon]

Well, I showed patience to a certain level but enough of that. Listen all dipshits who are abusing me here, once and for all. I m a Pakistani, through snd through. Stating a different opinion or viewpoint is a normal behavior. Try to live with that unless I abuse you which you did and crossed the line. I know how to swear too, better than most of you limp schlongs!
As of positive ID, there r ways too. If you wanna come n meet me, u r welcome here in Karachi. If u really mean business, give me a personal msg and tie up.

 

[Sine Nomine]

Well, I showed patience to a certain level but enough of that. Listen all dipshits who are abusing me here, once and for all. I m a Pakistani, through snd through. Stating a different opinion or viewpoint is a normal behavior. Try to live with that unless I abuse you which you did and crossed the line. I know how to swear too, better than most of you limp schlongs!
As of positive ID, there r ways too. If you wanna come n meet me, u r welcome here in Karachi. If u really mean business, give me a personal msg and tie up.

Actually Gentleman,you said something and didn't proved it,i know proving it may be breach of security and may be landing you into trouble.
Whatever JFT is still million miles better then Mirages and F-7.Regarding AESA of JFT,nothing can be said about it because chinese have habit of hiding timeline of systems,a system on Media may be in Development phase and actually may be in testing phase.
You need to elaborate parameters by which you assume KLJV7-2 is not good enough,when it comes to churning full performance of SD10.

 

[araz]

Don't divert the topic and kindly provide a prove that SD-10 is not operational with JF-17 if yopu have no prove you have no clue what is you taking about senior member like @Bilal Khan (Quwa) , @Bilal Khan 777 ,@The Eagle ,@araz , @Horus ,and others saying that SD-10 is operational years ago, if you have no prove go somewhere else to b@rk @CombatSurgeon you are reported for trolling baseless assumptions and wish ful thiniking @CombatSurgeon

Firstly settle down. There are always varying bits of information on the net and one learns to sift through this. Even if he is not exactly accurate you have to understand how international arms deals work.
There have been reported deficiencies with SD10. These were at the initial stages of its development. The question is do we wait for the best or induct what is available at the time and wait for further developments in the Chinese industry? So you buy into a product with 50-60% accuracy, evaluate it and give feedback to the provider. Based on your input the provider makes alterations and tries to improve the efficiencies in the missile and provides you with an upgraded model. It is a win win for both in that you have a capability which works even at 50 to 60% of its stated parameters and in exchange you will get an upgraded product to 70-80% efficiency. This is a normal way of dealing with developing technology and not something to get angry about. You may have noticed that the recent videos show JFT supporting SD10A which means things have moved on.
The Chinese are developing and their products rely more on quantity than quality. As technological base improves quality controls set in. They will also cater to their own needs first before supplying us. It takes 12-18 months to qualify and test new technology on a plane and this gives valuable input to the provider. Most problems in missiles pertain to motors and the seeker and these need additional support and adjustments/alterations to get the final product upto shape.
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[Windjammer]

Alan Warnes‏ @warnesyworld
Spent time with the superb Black Panthers at Minhas today. Two of their JF-17s on ADA were scrambled with full loadout and headed east.

 

[araz]

Well, I showed patience to a certain level but enough of that. Listen all dipshits who are abusing me here, once and for all. I m a Pakistani, through snd through. Stating a different opinion or viewpoint is a normal behavior. Try to live with that unless I abuse you which you did and crossed the line. I know how to swear too, better than most of you limp schlongs!
As of positive ID, there r ways too. If you wanna come n meet me, u r welcome here in Karachi. If u really mean business, give me a personal msg and tie up.

Dont get riled up. This happens initially as people assess your capabilities and knowledge base. So bear with it and the sme lot will be following you.
Regards
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[Ultima Thule]

Lolz, Mr. Genius. Thats like telling a fellow student in a madrassah that the maulvi is the final authority on everything becoz he’s the head honcho or he knows the inner calibre of your smart *** without using a damned vernier caliper. No independent thinking, no original research, no questioning to topple the apple cart.

Then tell us the reson why you think sd-10 is not operational with jf-17 p, have you a inner source from PAF that tell you that sd-10 is not operational with jf-17 and by the klj-7 for block1 has a range of 105 km and sd-10 range was 80 km, and klj-7v2 range is 130-140 km whereas sd-10a range is 100+ km can easily integrated on jf-17 radar and avionics and remember that klj-7 radar is based on j-10 radar which already using sd-10 as its weapon why you farting here now and think logically you Mr insane @CombatSurgeon

 

[alimobin memon]

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Alan Warnes‏ @warnesyworld
Spent time with the superb Black Panthers at Minhas today. Two of their JF-17s on ADA were scrambled with full loadout and headed east.

2 BVR are not enough what happened to Multiple racks ?

 

[araz]

Then tell us the reson why you think sd-10 is not operational with jf-17 p, have you a inner source from PAF that tell you that sd-10 is not operational with jf-17 and by the klj-7 for block1 has a range of 105 km and sd-10 range was 80 km, and klj-7v2 range is 130-140 km whereas sd-10a range is 100+ km can easily integrated on jf-17 radar and avionics and remember that klj-7 radar is based on j-10 radar which already using sd-10 as its weapon why you farting here now and think logically you Mr insane @CombatSurgeon

Calm down fella.! Right or wrong everyone has an opinion to voice. If you dont agree move on. There is no need to start name calling just because you do not agree with someone else's view point.
Remember the time when @bilal Khan777 came on the board and said one of the Erieyes was Cinders. Non3 of us myself included believed him as we did not know who he is and what his source is. So reputations take time building up.
I remember a time Sir@MuradK laid into [USER=24037]@xman without knowing that he was an X AF person and his father was a friend of Muradk. These things happen and you should take things with calmness listen to him and respond accordingly with calmness which you initially did.
Just calm down and give people breathing space.
A[/USER]

Yours is a better style for discussion.
Well, hasty patchwork has been done in KLJ v2, full results awaited. KLJ-AESA still a year away, or more. KLJ-7v1 no meaningful capability to support SD-10, though it constitutes bulk of our Thunder force. Eventually, it would come through, Insha Allah. I meant to state the present: here and now. What if something flares up now?
As of videos, recent Astra firing from a Sukhoi is a clear video showing a very clean motor ignition and flawless separation. Very neat exhaust plume and low smoke content. It shows at least *** end of this weapon is good. By no means Astra-Sukhoi combo assumed fit for op duty.

OK. One has to ask how old is your knowledge or the knowledge of the person you are sourcing information from.
We on this forum know@Bilal khan777 as ex AF and a professional. You are denying the fact that you are a professional so my question is a valid one? Perhaps this is where the disparity lies. I just want to clarify the mist so people can learn to trust your view point.
Regards
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[Ultima Thule]

Calm down fella.! Right or wrong everyone has an opinion to voice. If you dont agree move on. There is no need to start name calling just because you do not agree with someone else's view point.
Remember the time when @bilal Khan777 came on the board and said one of the Erieyes was Cinders. Non3 of us myself included believed him as we did not know who he is and what his source is. So reputations take time building up.
I remember a time Sir@MuradK laid into [USER=24037]@xman without knowing that he was an X AF person and his father was a friend of Muradk. These things happen and you should take things with calmness listen to him and respond accordingly with calmness which you initially did.
Just calm down and give people breathing space.
A[/USER]

Sir @CombatSurgeon is not accepting the fact that sd-10 already and easily indegrated to jf-17 because klj-7 radar is based on j-10 radar which already uses sd-10 as its main bvr aams think logically Mr @CombatSurgeon

 

[araz]

Sir @CombatSurgeon is not accepting the fact that sd-10 already and easily indegrated to jf-17 because klj-7 radar is based on j-10 radar which already uses sd-10 as its main bvr aams think logically Mr @CombatSurgeon

I have asked him to clarify his point of view. Lets wait for his response and then start a discussion rather than a fight!
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