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jf-17 thunder blck-1 is just aircraft like simple type
but j-17 thunder will be the true warrior
Dear,
I agree to the fact that JF-17 block-2 will be awsome, rivaling and in some areas surpassing F16-Bl-52 in some areas (if it get AESA).
But, year earlier statement that JF-17 block-1 is simple is inaccurate and fallicious.
JF-17 Bl-1 surpasses F16-Bl-15 in all aspects, with its similar payload, similar RCS, same number of hard-points, same Dumb and PGM capabilities, and similar handling and thrust-to-weight characteristics; but it trumps F16-Bl-15 on account of having better radar than AN/APG-66 and BVR capability. It is clearly in the category of F16-Bl25 ~ F16-Bl30, minus the additional chin pylons for targetting pods. Now if you say F16-Bl30 is SIMPLE, I rest my case.
NOTE: I am not starting F16 vs JF-17 discussion here. Just wanted to cite an example for a non-simple multi-role fighter, Grippen, Mirage-2000, F16, F20, and now JF-17 all fall into the same category. F16 is clearly superior because its bigger, and thus can have more hardpoints (9+2) and the continued upgradation has ensured F16 will serve respectfully till around 50 years after its initial induction.
Regards,
Sapper
JF-17 has not reached it's full potential yet, there were some integration issues w.r.t SD-10. Weapons are still integrating, No targeting pod has been tested and any PGM tested so far. As far as i know, FOC is not still given to JF-17 , correct me here members, Radar is as good as APG-66 but not surpassing it any way. IFR capability is yet to be added and it should have been added to Block-1 and i'm still amused why they didn't add it in Block 1.
We havent seen SD-10b yet on JF-17 and talk of SD-10 A a above average BVR is ripe here on forum (If we believe what eagle Hanna has said that PAF was not satisfied with the peformance of SD-10A.)
With enemy buying latest 4th generation fighter, the need of High bore of sight missiles become a necessity for PAF and main thing associated with HOBOS missiles is Helmet mounted sight and we haven't seen HOBOS missile or any HMS on JF-17 which it need seriously.
So Let JF-17 reach it's potential, then say that it has surpassed the F-16 Level.
Dear,
I agree to the fact that JF-17 block-2 will be awsome, rivaling and in some areas surpassing F16-Bl-52 in some areas (if it get AESA).
But, year earlier statement that JF-17 block-1 is simple is inaccurate and fallicious.
JF-17 Bl-1 surpasses F16-Bl-15 in all aspects, with its similar payload, similar RCS, same number of hard-points, same Dumb and PGM capabilities, and similar handling and thrust-to-weight characteristics; but it trumps F16-Bl-15 on account of having better radar than AN/APG-66 and BVR capability. It is clearly in the category of F16-Bl25 ~ F16-Bl30, minus the additional chin pylons for targetting pods. Now if you say F16-Bl30 is SIMPLE, I rest my case.
NOTE: I am not starting F16 vs JF-17 discussion here. Just wanted to cite an example for a non-simple multi-role fighter, Grippen, Mirage-2000, F16, F20, and now JF-17 all fall into the same category. F16 is clearly superior because its bigger, and thus can have more hardpoints (9+2) and the continued upgradation has ensured F16 will serve respectfully till around 50 years after its initial induction.
Regards,
Sapper
JF-17 does not have a similar payload to F-16s......
You can check it here....
General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon
The payload for earlier Block 15s, like the ones PAF operates.....has a payload for external weapons/fuel of above 6,000 Kgs.......whereas the JF-17 has it around 3,600Kgs.......
Dear,
Do you mean to F16 have 5 x 1ton stations + 2x wingtip-stations with 700kg loads ??? Please explain .
Please make me a bombing configuration with 6000kg bombs, assuming 2x200 kg amraams on wingtip (although F16A/B cannot launch it).
Regards,
Sapper