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TOKYO (REUTERS) - Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said on Monday he wants to hold a summit with China at the Apec leaders meeting in Beijing in November to improve relations strained by territorial and security issues.

Abe has been in office since late 2012 and has yet to meet Chinese leaders, despite worsening ties over disputed islands in the East China Sea, China’s declaration of an air defense identification zone in the area and Abe’s visits to a Tokyo shrine seen as a symbol of Japan’s past militarism.

“It is a great pity that we have not been able to have a leaders’ summit,” Abe told a parliamentary committee. “We need to return to the basics of a strategic relationship of mutual respect. I would like to have a summit in Beijing this November at the time of the APEC meeting.”

Abe also touched on the strong economic ties between the two nations and said that their relationship was unbreakable. “While recognising that even if our ties are strained they cannot be broken, there will be problems between neighbours. For this very reason we need to maintain a relationship that keeps things under control,” he said, repeating that the door for dialogue with China was always open.

Japan has been locked in a bitter territorial dispute with China over a group of tiny East China Sea islets, known as the Senkaku in Japan and the Diaoyu in China. Ships from both countries frequently shadow each other around the islands, raising fears of a clash.

Tensions escalated after China declared its air defence zone in the area in November, a move that also sparked concern from the United States and South Korea.

Abe’s visit a month later to Tokyo’s Yasukuni Shrine, seen as a symbol of militarism because war criminals convicted by an Allied tribunal are honoured there along with war dead, infuriated China and even drew criticism from the United States.

In an interview with the Mainichi Shimbun daily published on Monday, Abe refused to rule out another visit to the shrine. “In the future I hope to maintain my feeling of respect to honour those who have given their lives for the nation, but I would rather not say whether or not I will visit Yasukuni,” he was quoted as saying.

Abe also brushed off reports that Masahiko Komura, a top ruling party official and former Foreign Minister, had told China he would not go to the shrine again. “That was Mr Komura’s thought. I don’t know about it,” he added.

Japan PM Abe says he wants to hold summit with China at Apec meeting in November
 
I think this will be an opportune time to renew normalisation between China and Japan ties.

What say you? @Genesis , @Chinese-Dragon , @DDG , @TaiShang , @Edison Chen
normal relation between china and Japan is nightmare for western allies, they will try their best to provoke each other, you know divide and rule ? LOL
 
I think this will be an opportune time to renew normalisation between China and Japan ties.

What say you? @Genesis , @Chinese-Dragon , @DDG , @TaiShang , @Edison Chen

define normal. By that I mean, what do you think normal means, specifically, not just go back to friendly relationship, but what does it mean exactly?

We can't go back to what it was, I'm actually not 100% sure what new is, but I know old is done. Not the same people any more.
 
define normal. By that I mean, what do you think normal means, specifically, not just go back to friendly relationship, but what does it mean exactly?

We can't go back to what it was, I'm actually not 100% sure what new is, but I know old is done. Not the same people any more.

To me, from what the context of this paper suggests, normalization of relations mean a renewal of bilateral government communication. And a reduction of severe criticism of each others policies. We have to abide by our 1978 Treaty of Peace and Friendship.
 
“We need to return to the basics of a strategic relationship of mutual respect.

If this is what Mr. Abe wants for China and Japan, I should say, he is setting the bar very low. Mutual respect, in my view, is less of a strategic relationship.

What China and Japan (the leaders on both sides) should aim for is a full economic integration, people-to-people relations and a freeze on present day territorial disputes.

Japan should ensure China that it will not team up in any anti-China grouping with obvious anti-China intentions.

China could in turn ensure that it will check North Korea under control more aggressively and maybe move the naval exercise with Russia a bit down to the South (on the condition that Japan would not invite the US for joint drills explicitly addressed China).

Tensions escalated after China declared its air defence zone in the area in November, a move that also sparked concern from the United States and South Korea.

I guess it all started with the nationalization of the disputed islands.

But, all in all, I will suggest going back to the status quo: Freeze the political/territorial disputes and increase economic and track II relations. China and Japan already well integrated at the people's level. But we need to further deepen it with greater tourism and education exchanges.

The political solution will ultimately force itself. But I am not sure Mr. Abe would be content with going to pre-nationalization.
 
To me, from what the context of this paper suggests, normalization of relations mean a renewal of bilateral government communication. And a reduction of severe criticism of each others policies. We have to abide by our 1978 Treaty of Peace and Friendship.
1978, that's a good year, let me see.....202 billion dollars GDP, and Japan was...1 trillion.

Not saying money equals power and domination, but it does deserve some respect, no? The treaty should say mutual respect.

I'll come from the Diaoyu islands another way, let's say China can drop the claim and would. But Japan nationalize the islands,and made it public, why do that? It's like you and I had a dispute in a company, instead of us two talk in private, I made it public, now you are a up and coming new partner in the company and I am a established senior guy.

Do you feel as the new guy you can't really afford to look soft if you want a bright future where others respect you.


Now to you, since you specialize in this kind of thing in a company right? How does the new guy manage this situation, how does China walk away from this with better relations and still keep our vast interests in the South China Sea.
 
If you can beat us in a Ping Pong match, we will agree to meet you.
 
i don't have high hopes for this so called normalization effort with China as long Abe insists on his 'correct' handling of Diaoyu.
The guy started the mess and Japan needs to correct the mistake first before we can talk about improving ties.

If you can beat us in a Ping Pong match, we will agree to meet you.

Ping Pong diplomacy but a lot tougher than the one Americans enjoyed back in the 70's :D
 
They have a golden opportunity to rationalise the east Asian relationship. Then we can simultaneously work on normalising ties in South Asia., along with peace initiatives in southeast Asia.
 
It's much too early for normalisation. The shadow of ww2 still looms and resonates in the hearts of most Chinese.

The average Chinese still only makes a paltry 6-7k per year, our current bargaining power is still way too low.
 
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