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A North Korean missile is fired at a patrolling US Navy ship in the Sea of Japan. But a nearby Japanese destroyer spots it early and shoots it down.
In another part of the world, Filipino soldiers on a United Nations peacekeeping mission in some troubled country are ambushed by militants. In the nick of time, Japanese elements in the peacekeeping force arrive and repulse the attackers.

The scenarios are hypothetical. But the idea of Japan coming to the aid of an ally under hostile attack is now real under its new policy of “collective self-defense."

In a seismic policy shift, Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe’s cabinet last July 1 revised its interpretation of the country’s US-imposed pacifist constitution to one that now allows Japan to defend an allied country under attack.

It is a different world now. Countries that suffered Japanese military occupation remember Japan’s World War II past. However, the fear of a militarist Japan has been replaced by regional worry over a hegemonic China due to territorial spats with its neighbors, including Japan. But the fear is still there.

Paradigm shift

Look at Germany, says Manuel Lopez, the Philippines’ ambassador to Japan, in calming nerves about the country producing someday another Hideki Tojo, the prime minister who led Japan to World War II.

“We remember the past, but we have both moved on and recognized the importance of a future-oriented partnership for our mutual benefit,” Lopez says. “Germany occupied much of Europe in World War II, but Germany plays a major role in NATO today and is a very influential country within the European Union – an example of former enemies who have become close friends over the years.”

Manila’s decision to welcome Tokyo’s new defense policy took Beijing aback. “The Philippines, which suffered Japanese atrocities during World War II, has surprisingly supported the revival of militarism in Japan, which has the tacit backing of the United States,” state-owned newspaper China Daily said in an editorial.

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MILITARY POWER. Japanese soldiers from the 22nd Infantry Regiment of the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force train in urban assault with American soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 5th Brigade during an exercise at Fort Lewis’ Leschi Town. Photo courtesy of US Army

Philippine President Benigno Aquino III was among the first world leaders to welcome the defense policy shift. Lopez says Abe explained to Aquino the new policy a week before Tokyo adopted it.

“Since the end of World War II, the Philippines’ relationship with Japan has been characterized by trust and cooperation in many fields,” says Lopez, explaining Manila’s position. “Japan has overall acted in accordance with international law, and has positively contributed to the region and the world.”

Japan was the Philippines’ top trading partner in 2013 and also the biggest donor country. Bilateral trade last year reached US$16.64 billion, with the balance of trade in favor of the Philippines at around US$6 billion.

Filipinos are reminded of the Death March, the 1945 Battle of Manila and other Japanese atrocities. But today’s generation thinks of Japan in terms of cars, cartoons, gadgets, sushi and video games. (READ: Tokyo in half a day)

One enduring example is the giant robot cartoon series Voltes V, a precursor of the Transformers that ran in the Philippines in 1977-78. It still has a loyal following among Filipinos today who were children at the time.

Pacifist people

Then, there is also the Japanese people’s strong pacifist sentiment, Lopez emphasizes. Last month, a man set himself on fire on a Tokyo bridge to protest the defense policy shift.

Tinkering with Article 9 of the Japanese constitution, which limits the military to a purely defensive role, is sacrosanct among Japanese. It is emphasized in the name of the country’s military, the Japan Self-Defense Force – tame compared to other countries’ armed forces.

When the fictional monster Godzilla debuted in 1954, the movie’s overall message was that of the massive killing power of nuclear weapons – although audiences ever since have been awed by the earthshaking stomping.

It is too early to tell if the defense policy shift will eventually lead to a formal security alliance between the Philippines and Japan, although both countries have regular military exchanges.

What the new defense policy could lead to, Lopez says, is Japan becoming a “virtual superpower” because of its increased influence. Earlier this year, Tokyo relaxed its arms export rules, allowing Japan greater latitude to export weapons and technologies.

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Philippine envoy to Japan Ambassador Manuel Lopez

“In fact, Japan has been called a ‘nuclear threshold state,' as it has the technology, finances and fissile material stockpile to develop a nuclear weapon if it chose to,” says Lopez. “It is admirable, however, that Japan has stayed the course in terms of self-restraint, pacifism and supporting other nations’ economic development, and has demonstrated this amply over the past seven decades.”

Sure, many already see China as a superpower. But there is still debate over the term.

American journalist Fareed Zakaria wrote in a June 5, 2013, column in the Washington Post: “China is the world’s second-largest economy and, because of its size, will one day become the largest. But power is defined along many dimensions, and by most political, military, strategic and cultural measures. China is a great but not global power. For now, it lacks the intellectual ambition to set the global agenda.”

It was a point that surfaced in Shanghai last May at a meeting of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence-building Measures in Asia. Chinese president Xi Jinping proposed an Asian security set-up that includes Russia and Iran but excludes the United States.


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Yeah, no offense dude, but the only way I can see Japan become a major power is if it drops the pacifist clause in it's constitution all together. Collective defense is all fine and well, but it still restricts Japan militarily.
 
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Yeah, no offense dude, but the only way I can see Japan become a major power is if it drops the pacifist clause in it's constitution all together. Collective defense is all fine and well, but it still restricts Japan militarily.

We are inching towards that. Just this month (July) we did 2 things: 1) Allow collective self defense , 2) Revoke an imposed military sales ban.

And in 1 month we have concluded military R&D partnerships with: 1) Australia, 2) Germany, 3) Britain, 4) France and 5) Israel.

And had just concluded a joint naval exercise (Malabar 2014) between the US Navy, Indian Navy; a week before that, we had a trilateral naval exercise between: USN, ROKN.

Good going Japan!!:-)


Thank you! As you may already know, Japan and India finally had the opportunity to have Joint Naval exercise.

Focusing on Fleet Screen activity. ;)
 
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A North Korean missile is fired at a patrolling US Navy ship in the Sea of Japan. But a nearby Japanese destroyer spots it early and shoots it down.
In another part of the world, Filipino soldiers on a United Nations peacekeeping mission in some troubled country are ambushed by militants. In the nick of time, Japanese elements in the peacekeeping force arrive and repulse the attackers.

The scenarios are hypothetical. But the idea of Japan coming to the aid of an ally under hostile attack is now real under its new policy of “collective self-defense."

In a seismic policy shift, Japanese prime minister Shinzo Abe’s cabinet last July 1 revised its interpretation of the country’s US-imposed pacifist constitution to one that now allows Japan to defend an allied country under attack.

It is a different world now. Countries that suffered Japanese military occupation remember Japan’s World War II past. However, the fear of a militarist Japan has been replaced by regional worry over a hegemonic China due to territorial spats with its neighbors, including Japan. But the fear is still there.

Paradigm shift

Look at Germany, says Manuel Lopez, the Philippines’ ambassador to Japan, in calming nerves about the country producing someday another Hideki Tojo, the prime minister who led Japan to World War II.

“We remember the past, but we have both moved on and recognized the importance of a future-oriented partnership for our mutual benefit,” Lopez says. “Germany occupied much of Europe in World War II, but Germany plays a major role in NATO today and is a very influential country within the European Union – an example of former enemies who have become close friends over the years.”

Manila’s decision to welcome Tokyo’s new defense policy took Beijing aback. “The Philippines, which suffered Japanese atrocities during World War II, has surprisingly supported the revival of militarism in Japan, which has the tacit backing of the United States,” state-owned newspaper China Daily said in an editorial.

japan-defense-policy-20140729_5B62254A724B4B4D8A30C81F31CA4147.jpg
MILITARY POWER. Japanese soldiers from the 22nd Infantry Regiment of the Japan Ground Self-Defense Force train in urban assault with American soldiers from the 1st Battalion, 17th Infantry Regiment, 5th Brigade during an exercise at Fort Lewis’ Leschi Town. Photo courtesy of US Army

Philippine President Benigno Aquino III was among the first world leaders to welcome the defense policy shift. Lopez says Abe explained to Aquino the new policy a week before Tokyo adopted it.

“Since the end of World War II, the Philippines’ relationship with Japan has been characterized by trust and cooperation in many fields,” says Lopez, explaining Manila’s position. “Japan has overall acted in accordance with international law, and has positively contributed to the region and the world.”

Japan was the Philippines’ top trading partner in 2013 and also the biggest donor country. Bilateral trade last year reached US$16.64 billion, with the balance of trade in favor of the Philippines at around US$6 billion.

Filipinos are reminded of the Death March, the 1945 Battle of Manila and other Japanese atrocities. But today’s generation thinks of Japan in terms of cars, cartoons, gadgets, sushi and video games. (READ: Tokyo in half a day)

One enduring example is the giant robot cartoon series Voltes V, a precursor of the Transformers that ran in the Philippines in 1977-78. It still has a loyal following among Filipinos today who were children at the time.

Pacifist people

Then, there is also the Japanese people’s strong pacifist sentiment, Lopez emphasizes. Last month, a man set himself on fire on a Tokyo bridge to protest the defense policy shift.

Tinkering with Article 9 of the Japanese constitution, which limits the military to a purely defensive role, is sacrosanct among Japanese. It is emphasized in the name of the country’s military, the Japan Self-Defense Force – tame compared to other countries’ armed forces.

When the fictional monster Godzilla debuted in 1954, the movie’s overall message was that of the massive killing power of nuclear weapons – although audiences ever since have been awed by the earthshaking stomping.

It is too early to tell if the defense policy shift will eventually lead to a formal security alliance between the Philippines and Japan, although both countries have regular military exchanges.

What the new defense policy could lead to, Lopez says, is Japan becoming a “virtual superpower” because of its increased influence. Earlier this year, Tokyo relaxed its arms export rules, allowing Japan greater latitude to export weapons and technologies.

japan-manuel-lopez-20140729-2_6492EE717E694843A151C839E4D1289A.jpg

Philippine envoy to Japan Ambassador Manuel Lopez

“In fact, Japan has been called a ‘nuclear threshold state,' as it has the technology, finances and fissile material stockpile to develop a nuclear weapon if it chose to,” says Lopez. “It is admirable, however, that Japan has stayed the course in terms of self-restraint, pacifism and supporting other nations’ economic development, and has demonstrated this amply over the past seven decades.”

Sure, many already see China as a superpower. But there is still debate over the term.

American journalist Fareed Zakaria wrote in a June 5, 2013, column in the Washington Post: “China is the world’s second-largest economy and, because of its size, will one day become the largest. But power is defined along many dimensions, and by most political, military, strategic and cultural measures. China is a great but not global power. For now, it lacks the intellectual ambition to set the global agenda.”

It was a point that surfaced in Shanghai last May at a meeting of the Conference on Interaction and Confidence-building Measures in Asia. Chinese president Xi Jinping proposed an Asian security set-up that includes Russia and Iran but excludes the United States.


Japan inches closer to major power status

Good for japan when Germany has moved on & is exporting weapons what's wrong with Japan.As japan opens up it's Defense Industry i am sure India & Japan can do some JVs on Defense Products specially in Aerospace.
 
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We are inching towards that. Just this month (July) we did 2 things: 1) Allow collective self defense , 2) Revoke an imposed military sales ban.

And in 1 month we have concluded military R&D partnerships with: 1) Australia, 2) Germany, 3) Britain, 4) France and 5) Israel.

And had just concluded a joint naval exercise (Malabar 2014) between the US Navy, Indian Navy; a week before that, we had a trilateral naval exercise between: USN, ROKN.
It's going to take a long time, regardless of these recent measures. Japan has to make up for decades upon decades of lost military prowess.
 
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Isn't it too late ? With its population declining and other countries rising ? Soon the "Major power" rank will not be that important...
 
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Isn't it too late ? With its population declining and other countries rising ? Soon the "Major power" rank will not be that important...

Israel has a population of 5 million, it is the size of 1/4th of the population of Tokyo. Yet it is a major power.

France's population is 65 million, which is 1/2 the population of Japan.

England's population is 66 million, which is 1/2 the population of Japan

Yet these two are considered "Major Powers". Note that the JMSDF and JASDF is larger in size than these two nation's navies and armies.
 
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You are not very ambitious for your country...I don't think Japan can do anything really meaningful. France can do military operations in Africa because they are former colonies, plus we are a security council member...we have territories all over the world and the third largest diplomatic network...but still France is weak compared to the US...Japan is in an even more difficult position...

@isaac True.
 
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In this world, there is only one super power: The United States. The shear breadth and capabilities of the nation to exert its military and economic influence around the world. China is not a super power, and quite frankly does not intend to be one. She is an economic power, but she does not have the military or political clout to exert its influence onto areas outside of her immediate sphere of influence. Russia is in no ways a super power. Militarily and economically it does not qualify; she is a major power, however. The EU states such as Germany, France, and UK are all major powers, but do not have the capability, namely the man power to be considered super powers. Japan, by definition (which has a larger economy than either UK, Germany, France), has a larger population, has a larger industrial capacity, has a larger growth rate, and has a larger military defense expenditure (yet despite spending <1% of its GDP) than either of these countries. Japan does not wish to be a super power, a major power, yes.

As the 3rd largest economy in the world, and one that commands the greatest navy in Asia-Pacific, we have the basis to exert and contribute to regional peace and stability. Internationally, as well.

@eazzy , it has been proven through your past posts of your innate antagonism towards Japan. Before you try to negate my country, worry about the economy and ethnic divisions in your own country, which is rather wanting. I respect France, and had the privilege of meeting French people and French military personnel before. Neither of them showed the kind of disrespect you exude, and thus you do not represent the French sentiment.
 
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Japan and Germany both a have technological and industrial base to become major military power, its all about intention after all how many countries can boast such industrial complex as Japan
 
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Israel has a population of 5 million, it is the size of 1/4th of the population of Tokyo. Yet it is a major power.

France's population is 65 million, which is 1/2 the population of Japan.

England's population is 66 million, which is 1/2 the population of Japan

Yet these two are considered "Major Powers". Note that the JMSDF and JASDF is larger in size than these two nation's navies and armies.

JMSDF and JASDF aren't more powerful than the air force and navy of France/Britain.

They have the most sophisticated nuclear subs in the world, while you don't have it, nor you have the capability to build by your own.

And Britain can still produce the world top notch turbofan jet engine, but in comparison, your indigenous jet engine for Shin Shin is a joke.
 
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JMSDF and JASDF aren't more powerful than the air force and navy of France/Britain.

They have the most sophisticated nuclear subs in the world, while you don't have it, nor you have the capability to build by your own.

And Britain can still produce the world top notch turbofan jet engine, and in comparison, your jet engine for Shin Shin is a joke.

Japan , by definition is a nuclear nation. We have the ability and fissile material to create a nuclear weapon if we so desired it. We have showed restraint by not going into nuclear military research, as it is against our interest to do so.

We have ballistic missile capability, and if we so desired to become nuclear-armed, it is verily easy for us to do so.

It is not in our interest, right now, however.Conventionally speaking, the JMSDF is greater than the French and British Navies. I would encourage you to research more.
 
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