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Japan's Amphib Capabilities Stuggle With Rivalries, Budgets
By Paul Kallender-Umezu 10:39 a.m. EDT October 11, 2015
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TOKYO — Concerns are mounting among US Marine Corps observers and defense analysts that Japan’s commitment to developing an amphibious capability is being sidelined by senior Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (MSDF) leadership who favor investments in submarines, ASW capabilities, aerial reconnaissance and ballistic missile defense.

The “de-emphasis” potentially calls into question the effectiveness of the force, scheduled to become operational in the spring of 2017 and deemed essential to deter aggression against Japan’s far-flung southeastern Nansei Shoto island chain, said Grant Newsham, a senior research fellow at the Japan Forum for Strategic Studies.

“This is a historic point we're at. For the first time since the end of World War II, Japan has a choice of whether it wants a military able to defend Japan and protect its citizens or to just drift along with a stunted, misshapen SDF [Self Defense Force] that's of little use from a national security perspective and for Japan to remain pathologically dependent on the United States,” Newsham said.

The Joint Staff Office headed by Adm. Katsutoshi Kawano and the Ground Self-Defense Force (GSDF) appear to still be committed to amphibious development, and the MSDF Mine Warfare Force that has been assigned responsibility for the effort appears to have operated effectively at last month's Operation Dawn Blitz exercise.

However, in the MSDF, Japan’s amphibious plans seem relegated toward the bottom of the pecking order, he said.

In terms of funding, efforts related to the Amphibious Rapid Deployment Brigade (ARDB) amount to 17.9 billion yen (US$27.3 million) for the financial year to April 2016 to acquire land to build bases for 52 AAV-7 amphibious landing vehicles, seven Osprey tilt-rotor aircraft and CH-47JA transport helicopters.

The ARDB initially will deploy around 2,000 troops supported by about 90 specialists for training. Currently about 700 troops of the GSDF’s Sasebo-based Western Army Infantry Regiment are charged with defending about 6,000 islands and islets of the Nansei Shoto that extend south and west into the Pacific until they nearly reach Taiwan.

“Too often, people equate 'amphibious' with the Senkakus and since the Senkakus are tiny there's no need for an amphibious force. Instead, one should understand that the entire Ryukyus and Nansei Shoto are in play," Newsham said.

Newsham said that if properly funded, the scheme for ARDB would be about the correct size and organization, and that many more forward-thinking MSDF officers supported the development.

“Even if it lacks enough amphibious ships for a standing three-ship amphibious ready group like the Americans have, they can still do quite well with two ships, or even one, operating in support of GSDF,” Newsham said.

However, compared to resources being diverted into other programs, the ARDB is under-resourced, both in absolute budget and in planning, tactics training and equipment, sources said.

Col. Jonathan Goff, USMC liaison to the SDF, agreed that the ARDB faced a tough challenge if it was going to be an effective partner to the US.

First, the brigade's equipment will be almost immediately inadequate because of short-sightedness and (perhaps deliberate) under-funding, he said. For example, the ARDB needs its MV-22s to have refueling capabilities, attack helicopters need to be networked and, helicopters need folding blades, which can be retrofitted, for example. And all acquisitions need to be suitable for marine operations. None of this has been considered, Goff said.

“They have most of the right gear but lack enablers. There is a budgeting process deficiency coupled with a planning process deficiency. There are many things the SDF did not think about when planning for this,” Goff said.

More worryingly, a series of briefings beginning this spring by the Japanese Maritime Staff Office to the USMC made it increasingly clear that the MSDF now regards the ARDB as a distraction rather than a priority. The ARDB already faces the probability of being poorly trained but also may be the victim of inter-service rivalries.

Newsham said the USMC has received signals from the MSDF that it is not only reluctant to hold a Dawn Blitz 17 drill, citing lack of resources and ships, but also to commit to a joint effort with the GSDF to establish a joint task force to coordinate the amphibious mission.

“Amphibious operations are joint operations, requiring all three services to cooperate and operate in a unified fashion. Setting up a joint command for the Southwest Island Region is essential for focusing the amphibious development effort. This lack of jointness is SDF's most serious deficiency and prevents it from being effective," Newsham said.

"Amphibious development potentially serves as the forcing function for SDF to overcome this fundamental problem, and to actually become a useful force, able to defend Japanese territory and protect Japanese citizens. It currently cannot do either of these very well,” Newsham said.

Such parochialism among the three services that is moving beyond a lack of coordination to the point of noncooperation may prove to be strategically damaging to the ARDB’s chances of being an effective force.

“The best thing they could do is establish a Southwest Regional Joint Command centering on Kyushu and Nansei Shoto and consisting of all three components under one commander. Next, establish a joint operational command counterpart to the three service operational commands and give the Joint Staff real authority over the services," Goff said.

Further evidence that the ARDB effort is being choked comes with the fact that its two biggest advocates in the GSDF, Lt. Gen. Koichiro Bansho, former vice chief of staff of GSDF and commander of the Western Army; and Lt. Gen. Koichiro Bansho, former vice chief of staff of the Joint Staff Council, were both eased into early retirement this August.

The ARBD requires a new doctrine of maneuver warfare along with realistic training to form a ground force suitable for a maritime nation, not a Soviet land invasion, and which must be inherently expeditionary, Goff said.

“The SDF continues to insist on “a Japanese Way” of Amphib ops ... I hear this too often. That way is just an extension of the big land force doctrine, with centralized control, that they already possess,” Goff said.

Therefore, the ARDB “desperately” needs more training with US forces rather than less, Goff continued. The ARDB also needs organizations to test and evaluate units for combat readiness based on an objective set of training standards, taking advantage, for example, of the USMC’s Tactical Training Exercise and Evaluation Groups.

Related to this, ARDB needs to tap into new leadership that is open to the experience of the US, and not controlled by GSDF doctrines that were devised in the 1950s and that have no experience fighting amphibious warfare.

“There needs to be training where failure is allowed and units pushed to their failure point. The GSDF is an army of companies with almost no training at the regiment or above. Their capacity is adequate if the Russians invade Hokkaido, but not for a mobile, agile force in 2015,” Goff said.

Christopher Hughes, a Japan military expert and professor of international politics and Japanese studies at the University of Warwick, said it was perhaps too early to judge the unit, which has only been in planning since 2013.

“I hear the criticism of the Japanese moves thus far, but it takes time to build a marine force-type capability and we also know even the USMC is not free of rivalries in working with other US military services," Hughes said.

As the revised US-Japan Defense Guidelines make clear, it is Japan's responsibility to first respond to any attack on its southern islands. So Hughes believes that over time the ARDB would overcome Japan’s typical interservice rivalries because of the looming threat from China in this area.

“It's unusual that a defense capability — amphibiosity — potentially has such strategic, transformational importance, if taken advantage of," Newsham said.

“Japan's decades-long underfunding of the JSDF is a disgrace. However, even without major increases it is possible to develop a useful amphibious force as envisioned by GSDF and others. It just takes reorganizing existing assets and, as important, changed mindsets and missions,” he said.

Email: pkallender@defensenews.com
 
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Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force trains with VP-4



The Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Detachment 50 from Patrol Squadron 5 arrived Sept. 21 at Marine Corps Base Hawaii, Kaneohe.

JMSDF Patrol Squadron 5 is based at Naha Air Base on the island of Okinawa and currently flies the P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft. Over a span of 4,500 miles, the squadron brought two aircraft and full maintenance support.

JMSDF will be working in conjunction with Patrol Squadron 4 (VP-4) for about three weeks, aiming to foster international relations and cohesiveness between the JMSDF and U.S. Navy.

On Sept. 25, the JMSDF conducted a local area familiarization flight with one of VP-4’s combat air crews.

“I was impressed with their professionalism and crew cohesiveness. I was also fascinated by how well maintained and clean their aircraft was,” said Lt. Jack Turner, a pilot assigned to VP-4.

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DSEI 2015: Japanese, Chinese naval officers clash over South China Sea


Senior Japanese and Chinese naval officers offered deeply contrasting views on the security situation in the Asia-Pacific region at DSEI 2015 in London.

Vice Admiral Umio Otsuka, president of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force's (JMSDF's) Command and Staff College, cited 17th Century jurist Hugo Grotius's "freedom of the sea" as the basis for international trade and security on his way to asserting that a "certain country" was threatening this status quo.

Vice Admiral Yuan Yubai, commander of the North Sea Fleet of the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN), painted a very different picture of the Asia-Pacific maritime sphere. While his speech attracted interest after he said the South China Sea belonged to China by virtue of its name, Vice Adm Yuan devoted the lion's share of his presentation to playing up the opportunities for "unimpeded trade" under China's 21st Century Maritime Silk Route initiative.



DSEI 2015: Japanese, Chinese naval officers clash over South China Sea - IHS Jane's 360
 
Overview of the JMSDF



The JMSDF is one of the world's largest navies and the second largest navy in Asia in terms of fleet tonnage. As of 2013, the JMSDF operates a total of 114 vessels (excluding minor auxiliary vessels), including; four helicopter destroyers (or helicopter carriers), 24 destroyers, 13 small destroyers (or frigates), six destroyer escorts (or corvettes), 16 attack submarines, 29 mine countermeasure vessels, six patrol vessels, three landing ship tanks, 8 training vessels and a fleet of various auxiliary ships.

As of 2013, a procurement list added to the current National Defense Program Guidelines has revealed that, among other things, an additional 48 escort vessels of various classes are planned to be added to the MSDF fleet in the coming decade. In addition, as of July 7, 2013, it was being reported that plans were under way to procure two more Aegis equipped destroyers in order to bolster ongoing BMD efforts, the first to be contracted for in fiscal year 2015 and the other in fiscal year 2016.

The Submarine Fleet


Soryu Class (5)

The Sōryū-class submarines (16SS) are diesel-electric submarines that entered service with the Japan Maritime Defense Force in 2009. The design is an evolution of the Oyashio class, from which it can most easily be distinguished by its X-shaped tail planes. The Sōryūs have the largest displacement of any submarine used by post war Japan.

The class are fitted with air independent propulsions based on Kockums stirling engines license-built by Kawasaki Heavy Industries, allowing them to stay submerged for longer periods of time.

The cost of the sixth submarine ("Kokuryu") was estimated at 540 million USD

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are they phasing out the Oyashio class?

Shirane Class

The Shirane class incorporates an improved design based on the Haruna-class destroyers. The Shirane class are also the first Japanese ships to be fitted with 3D radars, the NEC OPS-12. The ships propulsion include two steam boilers with two shafts that produce 70.000 hp and gives a maximum speed of 32 knots.

Its armament includes two Mk.42 127mm guns, two 20-mm Phalanx close-in weapon systems, one Surface-to-air RIM-7 Sea Sparrow launcher, torpedoes and anti-submarine rockets.

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these being phased out right?
 
are they phasing out the Oyashio class?

Yes, the Oyashio will be replaced with Soryu classes.

these being phased out right?

They will be phased out and most likely kept for coastal defense or transferred to the Coast Guard. Most likely they will be kept for territorial water defense. They are exceptionally powerful, despite their age.
 
Yes, the Oyashio will be replaced with Soryu classes.



They will be phased out and most likely kept for coastal defense or transferred to the Coast Guard. Most likely they will be kept for territorial water defense. They are exceptionally powerful, despite their age.
isn't japan making a new helicopter carrier class called Izumo correct?
 
Ja mein freund, wir haben 2 gebaut von ihnen , die DDH 184 und der DDH 183 :

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und die DDH 184,....

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will they carry some F-35s or only helicopters

Akizui Class



The Akizuki-class destroyer is a destroyer class of the JMSDF - four ships are planned. This class is designed to escort the JMSDF's 4 larger Kongō-class destroyers which are tasked with protecting Japan against a North Korean ballistic missile attack. This class used to be designated "19DD" - referring to a date on the Japanese calendar, specifically the 19th fiscal year of the Heisei period (2007).


The Akizuki class is not really a new design but a modernized and slightly heavier variant of the Takanami class destroyer, whose purpose is to shield the Kongō class from air, surface and subsurface threats. There are many small improvements like, for example, cleaner lines to reduce the radar signature and decoys for torpedoes; but the principal changes can be summed up as more powerful engines, sensors, sonar and the indigenous ATECS battle management system that has been called the "Japanese AEGIS". The main gas turbine engines are standardized on a higher-powered version of the Rolls-Royce Spey SM1C, in contrast to the combination of Rolls-Royce SM1C and General Electric LM2500 turbines used in the Takanami class.


Main features of the class include enhanced C4ISR and Anti-Aircraft Warfare (AAW) capability, with an OYQ-11 advanced Combat Direction Sub-system (CDS) and FCS-3A AAW weapon sub-system.


Anti-submarine and Electronic Warfare (EW) capabilities of the Akizuki class have been enhanced, with a new OQQ-22 integrated sonar suite sub-system (hull-sonar and OQR-3 towed array; - a Japanese equivalent of the American AN/SQQ-89), and the NOLQ-3D digitalized EW suite sub-system. These sub-systems communicate across a NOYQ-1B wide area network. In totality these systems are comparable to those of the Zumwalt-class destroyer.

There are 4 ships of this class:

1) JDS Akizuki
2) JDS Teruzuki
3) JDS Suzutsuki
4) JDS Fuyuzuki



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I believe , in my modest opinion, the JMSDF is not at the level where I believe she can be. We are severely limited due to the restrictive article 9 on our constitution. Japan has the capability, resources and capacity to launch Nimitz-class super aircraft carriers. Japan must have 3 of these, in addition to support from our smaller Izumi-class destroyers (helicopter carriers).
is it a destroyer or like a multi-purpose vessel?
 
will they carry some F-35s or only helicopters


Officially no, but unofficially yes. They can be converted to host the F-35Bs that the JMSDF will be purchasing very soon.

Officially, however, i think the requirement and demand for an actual full fledged aircraft carrier is there. This is why we are currently designing a super carrier that can better meet the needs of the JMSDF's fleet requisites.

Something like this:

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is it a destroyer or like a multi-purpose vessel?

I think the classification of multi purpose vessel is good one. Yes, it meets that requirement, mein freund.

will they carry some F-35s or only helicopters

Share some pictures of die Kriegesmarine, @Bundeswehr , ich liben die Kriegesmarine fleet ! ;)
 
Everything That Could go Wrong for Hayabusa Did, and Yet it Still Succeeded

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Just about everything that could go wrong happened to the Hayabusa mission, yet it still made it back to Earth while carefully protecting 1,500 precious samples from asteroid Itokawa’s surface.

The Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency launched the Hayabusa on May 9, 2003. It landed on the surface on November 25 and 27, 2005, and returned to Earth on June 13, 2010. It met all scientific objectives for the mission. But the true story is in the details of just how many ways the mission could go wrong without outright failing.

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Asteroid Itokawa is decidedly lopsided. Image credit: JAXA

The spacecraft was originally intended to launch in July 2002 and target the asteroid 4660 Nereus or (10302) 1989 ML. Instead, a rocket failure delayed the launch and required the selection of a new target. Asteroid 25143 Itokawa a lopsided cylinder—540 meters by 270 meters by 210 meters across—named for Japanese rocket pioneer Hideo Itokawa.

The next hiccup was the payload. Hayabusa was originally intended to carry a small Muses-CN rover created by NASA, but it was cut from the budget. Instead, it carried a detachable minilander Micro/Nano Experimental Robot Vehicle for Asteroid, or MINERVA. It was designed to use an internal flywheel to hop along the asteroid’s surface, sending photographs back to Hayabusa.

The problems didn’t stop once the spacecraft launched. A solar flare in 2003 damaged the spacecraft’s solar cells, reducing the efficiency of ion engines and delaying arrival at the near-Earth asteroid Itokawa from June to September of 2005. Since the departure window to get back to Earth was fixed, this squished timeline meant that only two of three landing attempts were even possible.

The problems continued once Hayabusa reached the asteroid. The spacecraft collected data on the asteroid’s shape, spin, topography, colour, composition, and density before two of its reaction wheels failed on July 31, 2005. But the true chaos came with the landing attempts.

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Hayabusa casting a shadow on the asteroid Itokaw. Image credit: JAXA

An error caused MINERVA to fail, with the little hopper deploying but never landing or returning. Thankfully, Hayabusa was also designed to land, firing tiny projectiles to kick up dust into its deployable sample containers. Except that of course nothing could possibly be that easy for the accident-prone robotic explorer.

Closer examination revealed Woomera Desert landing site was too rocky, yet the spacecraft still managed to land at the Muses Sea site. Sort of.

The original “rehearsal” landing failed, setting the spacecraft into safe mode and a stabilizing spin.

The first actual landing attempt was a cascade of errors—an obstacle triggered an abort attempt, but it was too close and instead descended in safe mode without triggering a sampling attempt. The sample horn were still sealed in the hope dust kicked up from the spacecraft was accidentally collected.

Another attempt was made two days later, but a leak in the thruster system threw the spacecraft into safe mode again, again preventing firing of the tiny projectiles designed to trigger a spray of debris into the deployable sampling horn.

Between the two landing attempts, the spacecraft spent about 30 minutes on the surface with no guarantee it collected a single particle of asteroid-dust.

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Most of the Hayabusa spacecraft burned up during reentry on June 13, 2010. Image credit: JAXA

Problems with frozen pipes, leaking fuel, and communications glitches causedeven more consternation as the spacecraft attempted to depart the asteroid. By the time the return capsule was headed back to Earth, only 2 of 4 ion engines and 7 of 11 batteries were working; another ion engine automatically shut down partway through the journey home. By reentry, the reaction control system was no longer functional.

The spacecraft broke up during reentry, incinerating in a fireball as the samples drifted down to the Woomera outback of South Australia in a heat-shielded capsule.

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Retrieving the Hayabusa samples from the Australian outback. Image credit: JAXA

Finally back on Earth, the samples were packed into double-plastic bags of pure nitrogen gas to reduce contamination, and loaded into a cargo container with air suspension to avoid shocks over 1.5 g. The soil at the landing site was collected for comparison to ensure the samples hadn’t been contaminated. It took another year to develop procedures to avoid contaminating the samples while studying them.

After all the fuss, Hayabusa returned roughly 1,500 rocky particles from asteroid Itokawa. Almost all of them were under 10 micrometers in size, tiny particles of olivine, pyroxene, plagioclase, and iron sulphide.

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Every grain of Itokawa samples are the topic of intense scrutiny. Image credit: JAXA/Eizo Nakamura 2012

Hayabusa was the second spacecraft to land on an asteroid, following after NASA’s Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous-Shoemaker spacecraft landing on the asteroid Eros on February 12, 2001. It was the first to ever collect a sample of an asteroid’s surface, and the first to ever attempt an asteroid sample return.

The spacecraft’s name Hayabusa (はやぶさ) translates as “Peregrine Falcon.”

Hayabusa2 launched in December 2014 en route to asteroid 162173, recently renamed from 1999 JU3 to 162173 Ryugu. The mission is set to land on the asteroid and once again perform sampling operations, this time with a small swarm of robots.
 
October 12, 2015
Japan fine-tuning campaign for Australian Future Submarine

COMMENT
Blogger Julien Araneta in Comments [October 12, 2015 at 5:14 PM] below identified an excellent report by Navy Recognition (see below) which concerned PACIFIC 2015, Sydney Exhibition Center, Glebe Island, October 6 to 8, 2015. The original comments from Naval Recognition and additional comments in square brackets are diverse.
The removal of Prime Minister Abbott has forced a rapid revision in Japan's selling style - which concentrates on presentations by civilians from Japanese industry and the Japanese Ministry of Defence. Hence Japan's Defence Ministry spokesman Masaki Ishikawa and Izumi Ishii of MHI now feature. Japan is tightening up its bid and making it more understandable for a wider public including influential Australian politicians. Japan has moved very quickly since Admiral Sato's delegation visited Adelaide in late August 2015.
One issue that did not seem to be mentioned in presentations is pressure hull steel type to be used. This is noting the Soryu's NS110 may still be too confidential for Japan to transfer to the Australian Soryu and in any case may be too difficult to cut and reweld and is weakened when that occurs. The cut/reweld problem may particularly impact on Australian Soryus given their longer desired operational life of 30 years. Japanese Soryus are just operational for 24 years maximum. Thirty years means that the need to replace Australian Lithium-ion Batteries (LIBs) and diesel engines (for higher diesel usage - longer ranges travelled) is much more likely. It is therefore likely that Japan and Australia are formulating another pressure hull steel alloy with fewer issues.
ARTICLE WITH [COMMENTS]
See original Navy Recognition post at Japan's Government and Industry Held an Industry Briefing on Soryu Submarine at PACIFIC 2015. The text and photos from that Navy Recognition post are below. In square brackets are comments from Anonymous, S and Pete.
"Japan SEA1000 Industry Briefing at PACIFIC 2015
At PACIFIC 2015, the international maritime exposition currently held in Sydney Australia, the Japanese Government and Industry held an industry briefing on its bid with the Soryu for the SEA1000 program. Japan has a small pavilion at the exposition with scale models of the SEA1000 proposal, a Soryu class, an Atago class Destroyer and the 20DX Frigate.

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Izumi Ishii, Vice President of Integrated Defence & Space Systems at Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd. during SEA1000 Industry Briefing at PACIFIC 2015


The briefing which Navy Recognition was attending was presented by Japan's Defence Ministry spokesman Masaki Ishikawa and Izumi Ishii, Vice President of Integrated Defence & Space Systems at Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.

The Team Japan as presented by the Defence Ministry spokesman is to incorporate state of the art technologies from both Australia and Japan into proven technologies for ocean navigation, to work with local industries in whatever arrangement best suited for the Australian Government and to involve Australian industries from the design phase throughout the program.

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Japan SEA1000 Industry Briefing at PACIFIC 2015


According to Izumi Ishii, the submarine offered for the Australian SEA1000 program will be "a quite different submarine compared to the Japanese Soryu because of its American combat system, larger size and increase range but it will have some commonality with the Soryu".

MHI envisions two design centers: One in Japan and one in Australia with a growing Australian portion as the program transitions from concept design to basic design and eventually detailed design. A full scale mock-up of the submarine would be built in Australia for basic training (but no shore integration center is planned for now).

While both MHI and KHI (Kawasaki) build Soryus for the JMSDF, only MHI is involved in the competitive evaluation process for SEA1000.

The Japanese government has set up a website to help Australian companies getting in touch with Japan industries for the program. MHI will be conducting 1 on 1 meetings with companies accross Australia over the next few weeks.

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["Anonymous" in Comments [October 12, 2015 at 5:17 PM] indicated SEA 1000 Concept (in the diagram above) shows double layer arrangement of future Lithium-ion Batteries (LIBs) (the Current Soryu adopts single layer arrangement of existing Lead-acid Batteries (LABs), and adopts [very difficult] Gas Tungsten Arc Welding (GTAW), Gas Metal Arc Welding (GMAW) and Shield Metal Arc Welding (SMAW), I think. Training of welders will be crucial element of technology acquisition, especially for NS110-GTAW.

Anonymous added that the Japanese Ministry of Defence (MOD) may release a list of subcontractors which is partially disclosed. Translation and understanding of NDS (MOD Standards) are also very important. There are so many things to do.]
["S" in Comments [October 12, 2015 at 5:22 PM] indicated (along the lines) that Japanese research on new main batteries for submarine revealed that the energy density of LIBs was twice that of LABs and lifetime of LIBs was 1.5 times that of LABs.
But, from analysis of “Life Cycle Cost (LCC) Management Reports on 23SS (LABs-Soryu) and 27/28SS(LIBs-Soryu)” and other budget papers, S concludes that the life time of current LIBs will be twice that of LABs [that is higher than "1.5 times"] and that prices of LIBs will be high. When adding 24-years of operational life of 22 Japanese submarines with 30-years operational life of the 8 Australian submarines, more than 300,000 LIB unit cells will be needed. There may be a reduction in the price of LIBs caused by mass production effects.]
FURTHER COMMENT
Reduction of LIB prices may also occur due to much more diverse and frequent non-submarine uses such as:
- in UUVs for civilian and military purposes
- in large land vehicles (eg. trucks for mining) as well as cars and
- much more common Tesla like (solar to battery) static use on an industrial scale.
Cost of LIBs will, of course, be one item in the many items that make up the submarine's up-front, training, running and other maintenance costs.
Right up until the winner is announced Japanese delegations will likely be travelling around Australia to promote their SEA 1000 solution to politicians, the RAN, businesses and wider public (through the media). Delegations will also be more widely discussing industrial alliances with businesses in all Australian states and territories (as all will likely be involved in the build).
Thankyou Navy Recognition for use of your report.
Pete

Posted by Peter Coates
 
Officially no, but unofficially yes. They can be converted to host the F-35Bs that the JMSDF will be purchasing very soon.

Officially, however, i think the requirement and demand for an actual full fledged aircraft carrier is there. This is why we are currently designing a super carrier that can better meet the needs of the JMSDF's fleet requisites.

Something like this:

japanese-f3-shoot-down-chinese-j20-stealth-fighter-08-600x417-575x399.jpg




I think the classification of multi purpose vessel is good one. Yes, it meets that requirement, mein freund.



Share some pictures of die Kriegesmarine, @Bundeswehr , ich liben die Kriegesmarine fleet ! ;)
i shall do so

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