Japan conveys concern over Rohingya to Suu Kyi.

[帅的一匹]

Some butt-hurt Pakistanis and Indians dislike BD when they are reminded of Pakistan's looting of BD during the 1947-1971, and Indians failure to build a prosperous country after 7 decades of independence. Who really cares what butt-hurt people think lol.
Some of the language used against China was unwise but BD posters are right to point out China's central role in this tragedy.

Why BD people care Rohingyas so much bro? Because they are Muslim or they look like Bangladeshis?

 

[TopCat]

Why BD people care Rohingyas so much bro? Because they are Muslim or they look like Bangladeshis?

That part of it.. Besides they wont be cared much if they remained in the other side of the border.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

But they don't mind being brutal when it benefits them. Iraq, Libya are good examples.

Both Saddam ans Gaddafi was willing to kill millions of their own citizen rather than stepping down and holding free election.Gaddafi killed 50 thousands of Libyan before western punishment caught him.If such a mad dictator start behaving that way, than rest of the world has an obligation to stop him.By removing saddam or gaddafi, west did nothing wrong, as they were not elected by people's mandate.But things went too messy after that due to middle eastern complex socio-political realities including sectarianism which nobody can predict or control, not even the superpower USA.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

From what I get - and have seen over the years, a majority of the uneducated lower class Chinese population (and the Chinese govt. as well), have a long way to go to become as versed in human decency and civility as people in Western countries or Japan.

Based on your logic, Donald Trump who was born in a developed Western country, to a rich family, who could afford all the best possible education, is "versed in human decency and civility" while a poor Chinese farmer who can't afford much education lacks that human decency and civility?

Maybe ask all those people in the Middle East who are being killed by American bombs how much human decency and civility they have, and what was their education level, and were they born in a Western country or not?

 

[Bilal9]

Based on your logic, Donald Trump who was born in a developed Western country, to a rich family, who could afford all the best possible education, is "versed in human decency and civility" while a poor Chinese farmer who can't afford much education lacks that human decency and civility?

Maybe ask all those people in the Middle East who are being killed by American bombs how much human decency and civility they have, and what was their education level, and were they born in a Western country or not?

I don't see the point of conversing with you (judging by your inherent anti-Western bias and sometimes anti-Bangladeshi bias as well - as seen in previous posts) but what the heck....let me ask you some questions.

1. Have you lived in or been a part of Western society for more than one year?

2. Have you studied any treatises in Western philosophy?

3. Have you studied _any_ Aristotelian and Islamic philosophy treatises?

To answer your statements above, all I will say is 'cherry picking' instances like Trump or the recent wars in the Middle East does not invalidate the inherent civility of the West which is ingrained in their culture and has been for the last six plus hundred years. This is something to admire and look up to, not vilify and denigrate.

I have been a part of both Eastern and Western cultures more or less throughout my life. More recently I've been trying to read up on Confucius and Laozi. And I can see people's values everywhere I go. I am always more on guard for uncivil behavior whenever I go anywhere in Asia, except maybe Japan.

Point is - and as I've said before, China (as well as the rest of Asia) has a long way to go before getting to Western standards of civil behavior and principles of inclusion, diversity, anti-hate and anti-racist behavior as practiced in their societies - especially towards populations that are non-Western. Chinese CCP discipline has helped a bit in the last hundred or so years, but we need more time. You can't legislate these things, you have to teach these to your kids.

Google Lee Kuan Yew's writings sometime and see what he continually said about 'Asian non-civility and indiscipline'. And he meant both Indian and Chinese civilizations in that description.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I don't see the point of conversing with you (judging by your inherent anti-Western bias and sometimes anti-Bangladeshi bias as well - as seen in previous posts) but what the heck....let me ask you some questions.

1. Have you lived in or been a part of Western society for more than one year?

2. Have you studied any treatises in Western philosophy?

3. Have you studied _any_ Aristotelian and Islamic philosophy treatises?

To answer your statements above, all I will say is 'cherry picking' instances like Trump or the recent wars in the Middle East does not invalidate the inherent civility of the West which is ingrained in their culture and has been for the last six plus hundred years. This is something to admire and look up to, not vilify and denigrate.

I have been a part of both Eastern and Western cultures more or less throughout my life. More recently I've been trying to read up on Confucius and Laozi. And I can see people's values everywhere I go. I am always more on guard for uncivil behavior whenever I go anywhere in Asia, except maybe Japan.

Point is - and as I've said before, China (as well as the rest of Asia) has a long way to go before getting to Western standards of civil behavior and principles of inclusion, diversity, anti-hate and anti-racist behavior as practiced in their societies - especially towards populations that are non-Western. Chinese CCP discipline has helped a bit in the last hundred or so years, but we need more time. You can't legislate these things, you have to teach these to your kids.

Google Lee Kuan Yew's writings sometime and see what he continually said about 'Asian non-civility and indiscipline'. And he meant both Indian and Chinese civilizations in that description.

I don't understand the point of worshiping these same Westerners who are dropping bombs on the heads of your fellow Muslims as we speak, one every handful of minutes.

I live in Hong Kong and I feel fine here, thank you very much. We have the number 1 highest life expectancy in the world, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Do you think I would rather live in Los Angeles or Detroit? Might as well just set up some guns on my walls that fire randomly at anyone who passes by, would save me a plane ticket and a lousy journey.

 

[Bilal9]

I don't understand the point of worshiping these same Westerners who are dropping bombs on the heads of your fellow Muslims as we speak, one every handful of minutes.

I live in Hong Kong and I feel fine here, thank you very much. We have the number 1 highest life expectancy in the world, and one of the lowest crime rates in the world. Do you think I would rather live in Los Angeles or Detroit? Might as well run through a firing range without any armor on.

Have you _ever_ visited Los Angeles, where I live at least part time? And you are comparing Hong Kong to Los Angeles??

You sound like a scared old person.

Meanwhile - this is what uncivil behavior in an organizational context means.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...rning-bribe-to-chinese-embassy-report.539778/

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Have you _ever_ visited Los Angeles, where I live at least part time? And you are comparing Hong Kong to Los Angeles??

You sound like a scared old person.

Meanwhile - this is what uncivil behavior in an organizational context means.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bang...rning-bribe-to-chinese-embassy-report.539778/

What I'm saying is that as a Hong Konger, I would never move to Los Angeles, or even visit Los Angeles on a vacation.

Whereas I would and have visited Mainland China, South Korea, Japan, Canada, Australia, and most of Europe, for example. The closest I have felt to being back in Hong Kong was in Shanghai.

You can worship the West all you want, but your fellow Bangladeshis are blowing themselves up there, like in New York a month ago.

And the leader of the USA is doing his best to start a nuclear war with North Korea, maybe even before he succeeds in banning Muslims from entering the USA.

 

[UKBengali]

Why BD people care Rohingyas so much bro? Because they are Muslim or they look like Bangladeshis?

As @TopCat said it is partly due to the fact that they are ethnically close to BD'shis ,but also due to BD now has a huge burden feeding, housing and caring for 1 million Myanmarese citizens.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

You can worship the West all you want, but your fellow Bangladeshis are blowing themselves up there, like in New York a month ago.

LOL, seems Chinese like you have more headache about that incident than the US! We admire (worship, as you like to call it) the west and try to emulate them. Bangladesh is a British Westminster type Democracy you know...

And the leader of the USA is doing his best to start a nuclear war with North Korea, maybe even before he succeeds in banning Muslims from entering the USA.

Trump is a madman, but he isn't the alpha and the omega of US administration. US is a democracy bro. And NK regime isn't rational, so must be removed!

LOL to the Muslim Ban. Let us know when US does this Muslim Ban thing successfully...

 

[Zabaniyah]

It is interesting that the Japanese stood up for the Rohingya publicly, even though it had just as much prospects for business In Myanmar (like China) and could easily turn their collective backs on the Rohingya, like the Chinese did.

Where are the Chinese with such a constructive move? They will not even meet with the Rohingya....

This shows you where in the 'pecking order of development' nations are in the world.

Japan is fully a free, democratic country.A responsible member within the world community of nations.While China is a ruthless communist dictatorship. How can you expect a country which killed tens of millions of it's own citizen in cold blood to show any concern about human rights abuse outside it's border? You can do business with Chinese, but do not expect them to take a principled position in any global affairs.All countries in the world need to treat China strictly just as a business partner.Nothing more.I pray to God that, They never eclipse Western democracy in influence or power.Otherwise, this world will be a much much worse place to live.

It's politics actually.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...unter-china/story-A3jsZBRAuQ5yM8pEPYEDPP.html

That's right. Japan has its own OBOR-like project with the usual suspects. Make Japan Great Again #MJGA

That project doesn't take China too kindly. And that is to say in a polite manner.

This is getting really weird.

Why BD people care Rohingyas so much bro? Because they are Muslim or they look like Bangladeshis?

Well, we are an overpopulated and a poor country (regrettably). Large inflows of refugees who are psychologically scarred do impact us. They may look like Bangladeshis and Muslim, but they have Burmese names.

Myanmar is one country that might explode under the right conditions.

 

[帅的一匹]

It's politics actually.
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...unter-china/story-A3jsZBRAuQ5yM8pEPYEDPP.html

That's right. Japan has its own OBOR-like project with the usual suspects. Make Japan Great Again #MJGA

That project doesn't take China too kindly. And that is to say in a polite manner.

This is getting really weird.



Well, we are an overpopulated and a poor country (regrettably). Large inflows of refugees who are psychologically scarred do impact us. They may look like Bangladeshis and Muslim, but they have Burmese names.

Myanmar is one country that might explode under the right conditions.

Rohingyas has Burmese name?! That's the first time I hear it. Very important information.

If they have Burmese name, means they think themselves as people of Myanmmar.

 

[UKBengali]

Rohingyas has Burmese name?! That's the first time I hear it. Very important information.

If they have Burmese name, means they think themselves as people of Myanmmar.

Some do.
Others have Bengali names.

 

[Zabaniyah]

Rohingyas has Burmese name?! That's the first time I hear it. Very important information.

If they have Burmese name, means they think themselves as people of Myanmmar.

Indeed it is important.

'Maung', 'Ro', 'Shwe', 'Hlaing', 'Zeya', 'Aung' are not Bengali names at all.

Some do.
Others have Bengali names.

It is not uncommon actually. I have been looking for them, and seeing what they are like. Indeed, we do have cultural links with them. If anything, this is the missing part of our history, our identity. I can't help but feel a sense of irony.

I suggest you follow a man named Maung Zarni.
https://www.facebook.com/maung.zarni.9

You can get a lot of information from him along with the problems plaguing the human rights community (which is very important) and how they had failed.

There's also one prominent Germany-based Rohingya activist named Ro Nay San Lwin. You can get important information too. Yeah I know, that name.

Like I said, they look like us. But many have very Burmese names. And they do proudly identify themselves as 'Rohingya'.

 

[Doctor Strange]

Some do.
Others have Bengali names.

What is a Bengali name? Those are Arabic/Persian.