Japan conveys concern over Rohingya to Suu Kyi.

[beijingwalker]

Bitter truth bro!...

We are being nice not to return the insult you threw at us, you guys should know where to stop.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

The friendship between China and BD had been lasting since BD's independence, and even before that. So I think we shall recall those good times we had together. BD and China's interests are 99% consistent. One divergence shall not ruin the overall relationship between two countries.

100% Agree with you bro! And no one in Bangladesh even dreams about ruining relation with China. We want China as the counter weight of US power. We all have our different POV. But, truth is truth bro...

We are being nice not to return the insult you threw at us, you guys should know where to stop.

What insult?

 

[replica1278]

Japan is fully a free, democratic country.A responsible member within the world community of nations.While China is a ruthless communist dictatorship. How can you expect a country which killed tens of millions of it's own citizen in cold blood to show any concern about human rights abuse outside it's border? You can do business with Chinese, but do not expect them to take a principled position in any global affairs.All countries in the world need to treat China strictly just as a business partner.Nothing more.

Is this not the same responsible member that killed its way across Asia some time ago? Oh right they’re no longer the same people because some anime has told me that. LOL

It’s crazy how people just lose all common sense when they talk about China. What purpose did killing, in your words, tens of millions of its own citizens in cold blood, accomplish exactly? The Great Leap Forward that resulted in millions of death was not some political purge or any of the like. It was a failed economic reform because Mao had silly ideas of how the economy worked. This is akin to how poor sanitation and poverty have caused millions of people dying prematurely in impoverished nations. You should know better than this. Moreover, you guys have to make up your mind what it is that you like China to do here? On one hand, you regale in the fact that China has this non-interference policy but also want the Chinese to punish Myanmar for what is rightfully their internal affair? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

But you’re right about treating China as nothing more but a business partner. They’ve been trying to tell the world this the entire time but no one was having it. The only thing that they want is for everyone to get out of their way so they can make dat money. Now if some of the deals turn out to be win-win for both parties then all the merrier. It’s much easier to do business when your partner is happy.

I pray to God that, They never eclipse Western democracy in influence or power.Otherwise, this world will be a much much worse place to live.

No worries. I don’t think they would want to disrupt your orgasm when you cast that sacred ballot of yours. It’s something that these Chinese wouldn’t be able to compute.

 

[UKBengali]

Is this not the same responsible member that killed its way across Asia some time ago? Oh right they’re no longer the same people because some anime has told me that. LOL

It’s crazy how people just lose all common sense when they talk about China. What purpose did killing, in your words, tens of millions of its own citizens in cold blood, accomplish exactly? The Great Leap Forward that resulted in millions of death was not some political purge or any of the like. It was a failed economic reform because Mao had silly ideas of how the economy worked. This is akin to how poor sanitation and poverty have caused millions of people dying prematurely in impoverished nations. You should know better than this. Moreover, you guys have to make up your mind what it is that you like China to do here? On one hand, you regale in the fact that China has this non-interference policy but also want the Chinese to punish Myanmar for what is rightfully their internal affair? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

But you’re right about treating China as nothing more but a business partner. They’ve been trying to tell the world this the entire time but no one was having it. The only thing that they want is for everyone to get out of their way so they can make dat money. Now if some of the deals turn out to be win-win for both parties then all the merrier. It’s much easier to do business when your partner is happy.

How is backing Myanmar 100% at the UN be seen as a no-interference policy?
How is investing in their infrastructure and buying their commodities to sustain a vile regime a no-interference policy?
How is selling them arms a no-interference policy?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Does it need to take it so far to insult China?

We are being nice not to return the insult you threw at us, you guys should know where to stop.

They are showing their true faces now.

And they are proving why we made a wise choice to back Myanmar instead.

 

[Shorisrip]

Is this not the same responsible member that killed its way across Asia some time ago? Oh right they’re no longer the same people because some anime has told me that. LOL

It’s crazy how people just lose all common sense when they talk about China. What purpose did killing, in your words, tens of millions of its own citizens in cold blood, accomplish exactly? The Great Leap Forward that resulted in millions of death was not some political purge or any of the like. It was a failed economic reform because Mao had silly ideas of how the economy worked. This is akin to how poor sanitation and poverty have caused millions of people dying prematurely in impoverished nations. You should know better than this. Moreover, you guys have to make up your mind what it is that you like China to do here? On one hand, you regale in the fact that China has this non-interference policy but also want the Chinese to punish Myanmar for what is rightfully their internal affair? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

But you’re right about treating China as nothing more but a business partner. They’ve been trying to tell the world this the entire time but no one was having it. The only thing that they want is for everyone to get out of their way so they can make dat money. Now if some of the deals turn out to be win-win for both parties then all the merrier. It’s much easier to do business when your partner is happy.




No worries. I don’t think they would want to disrupt your orgasm when you cast that sacred ballot of yours. It’s something that these Chinese wouldn’t be able to compute.

Japan in the 21st century is a completely different country from the one back in the 30s/40s. Modern Japanese people are actually one of the most pacifist there is, and so is the state of Japan as a whole. Although Japan should be held accountable for past attrocites, these should not be blamed on the current Japanese population that had little to do with what happened back then.

 

[Bilal9]

Is this not the same responsible member that killed its way across Asia some time ago? Oh right they’re no longer the same people because some anime has told me that. LOL

It’s crazy how people just lose all common sense when they talk about China. What purpose did killing, in your words, tens of millions of its own citizens in cold blood, accomplish exactly? The Great Leap Forward that resulted in millions of death was not some political purge or any of the like. It was a failed economic reform because Mao had silly ideas of how the economy worked. This is akin to how poor sanitation and poverty have caused millions of people dying prematurely in impoverished nations. You should know better than this. Moreover, you guys have to make up your mind what it is that you like China to do here? On one hand, you regale in the fact that China has this non-interference policy but also want the Chinese to punish Myanmar for what is rightfully their internal affair? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

But you’re right about treating China as nothing more but a business partner. They’ve been trying to tell the world this the entire time but no one was having it. The only thing that they want is for everyone to get out of their way so they can make dat money. Now if some of the deals turn out to be win-win for both parties then all the merrier. It’s much easier to do business when your partner is happy.


No worries. I don’t think they would want to disrupt your orgasm when you cast that sacred ballot of yours. It’s something that these Chinese wouldn’t be able to compute.

You fail to understand the point @Homo Sapiens was trying to make.

From what I get - and have seen over the years, a majority of the uneducated lower class Chinese population (and the Chinese govt. as well), have a long way to go to become as versed in human decency and civility as people in Western countries or Japan.

And this is coming from a person who counts Mandarin speakers in their immediate family, has travelled in China on business quite a bit and takes an insane amount of interest in Chinese culture.

Most PDF posters are educated Bangladeshis who have nothing but admiration for educated Chinese folks and their country, in spite of a few uneducated Chinese trolls here who say otherwise.

 

[Mage]

From what I get - and have seen over the years, a majority of the uneducated lower class Chinese population (and the Chinese govt. as well), have a long way to go to become as versed in human decency and civility as people in Western countries or Japan.

Not a nice way to put it. The west and Japan aren't any better. They wouldn't mind bombing the hell out of us if it benefits them. Present world order is good for US and it's allies...including Japan. Thus they want to preserve it that way. But they don't mind being brutal when it benefits them. Iraq, Libya are good examples. China is the same. Actually every nation is the same. They would do what benefits them. And only cry for Moral values when things go against them.

For us...everyone should be treated the same way. Thus US and the West(including Japan, SK) cannot be more important than China or China cannot be more important than the west. What important is what they bring to the table.

 

[Bilal9]

Not a nice way to put it. The west and Japan aren't any better. They wouldn't mind bombing the hell out of us if it benefits them. Present world order is good for US and it's allies...including Japan. Thus they want to preserve it that way. But they don't mind being brutal when it benefits them. Iraq, Libya are good examples. China is the same. Actually every nation is the same. They would do what benefits them. And only cry for Moral values when things go against them.

For us...everyone should be treated the same way. Thus US and the West(including Japan, SK) cannot be more important than China or China cannot be more important than the west. What important is what they bring in the table.

Well I just expressed my viewpoint as I see it and have found true - over the years.

Your viewpoint could be different and I respect it as well.

 

[UKBengali]

They are showing their true faces now.

And they are proving why we made a wise choice to back Myanmar instead.

Sorry but unwise comments made by a few BD posters do not justify China's total support of the most evil country on the planet right now.
China needs to take responsibility for it's own actions.

 

[replica1278]

You fail to understand the point @Homo Sapiens was trying to make.

From what I get - and have seen over the years, a majority of the uneducated lower class Chinese population (and the Chinese govt. as well), have a long way to go to become as versed in human decency and civility as people in Western countries or Japan.

And this is coming from a person who counts Mandarin speakers in their immediate family, has travelled in China on business quite a bit and takes an insane amount of interest in Chinese culture.

Most PDF posters are educated Bangladeshis who have nothing but admiration for educated Chinese folks and their country, in spite of a few uneducated Chinese trolls here who say otherwise.

Oh I understood him alright. It was the same anti-china drivel that’s been used incessantly by the West. Very much like your mutant version of the “I have a black friend so I can’t be a racist”; then proceed to unleash a barrage of pleasantries.

Know this. Those crass and uncouth low-end Chinese that you detest are a social phenomenon that only come about when the nation is undergoing a vast economic transformation. They see the pie getting bigger but are not benefiting too much from it. So they resort to do stuff no matter how immoral to get their fair share of it. They understand that once the pieces are in place and social mobility becomes rigid; their chance of moving up the economic ladder may forever elude them.

It’s a gold rush played out in a modern context. I can see where they are coming from and absolutely sympathize with that. But what I do not like is when people think of this as something exclusive to the Chinese and then take cheap shots at the Chinese culture.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Oh I understood him alright. It was the same anti-china drivel that’s been used incessantly by the West. Very much like your mutant version of the “I have a black friend so I can’t be a racist”; then proceed to unleash a barrage of pleasantries.

Racist drivel is right.

At least now I know why Pakistani and Indian members of this forum dislike Bangladesh so much.

 

[Doctor Strange]

I think some posters perished from this thread like Homo Sapiens, after making tall comments about Japan when shown the other side of Japan's big investments in Myanmar and the Rohingya concern was token gesture in fact. End of the day only country's interests matter. Right now Rohingyas dont matter to anyone, not even to BD. Rohingyas dont consider themselves Bengali, where BD's politics revolves around Bengali and they are not even citizens of BD; Rohingyas consider themselves Muslims, Muslims politics isnt entertained in BD; Rohingyas are majority Northern Arakanese/Rakhine, BD has no intention to occupy that as well in the name of humanitarian effort, but BD has look east policy through MM so BD is more interested to keep good relation with MM. If some ideas of Rohingyas and BD match each other in future then only Rohingyas hold any value. Right now all I see is nonalignment between the concerned parties in so many angles. Only MM is steadily gaining towards its target of total ethnic cleansing of Rohingyas. Instead of putting and pushing blame on others, BD have to take matters in its own hand sometimes.

 

[UKBengali]

Racist drivel is right.

At least now I know why Pakistani and Indian members of this forum dislike Bangladesh so much.

Some butt-hurt Pakistanis and Indians dislike BD when they are reminded of Pakistan's looting of BD during the 1947-1971, and Indians failure to build a prosperous country after 7 decades of independence. Who really cares what butt-hurt people think lol.
Some of the language used against China was unwise but BD posters are right to point out China's central role in this tragedy.

 

[Bilal9]

Oh I understood him alright. It was the same anti-china drivel that’s been used incessantly by the West. Very much like your mutant version of the “I have a black friend so I can’t be a racist”; then proceed to unleash a barrage of pleasantries.

Know this. Those crass and uncouth low-end Chinese that you detest are a social phenomenon that only come about when the nation is undergoing a vast economic transformation. They see the pie getting bigger but are not benefiting too much from it. So they resort to do stuff no matter how immoral to get their fair share of it. They understand that once the pieces are in place and social mobility becomes rigid; their chance of moving up the economic ladder may forever elude them.

It’s a gold rush played out in a modern context. I can see where they are coming from and absolutely sympathize with that. But what I do not like is when people think of this as something exclusive to the Chinese and then take cheap shots at the Chinese culture.

I think you are pointing your disdain and sarcasm at the wrong person my Chinese friend.

I consider myself a sinophile and am the least anti-Chinese or even anti-China person there is, even considering a person that partially grew up in the US.

Like I said, I have traveled extensively in China and count many friends who are ethnically Chinese or Taiwanese (even some from Hong Kong/Macau). No one has to be pleasant to anyone. You have no idea how anti-Chinese some people in the West are.

I can opine if some action of the Chinese Govt. disappoints me. I maintain that right.