Jaguar Crashed in UP, Pilot killed!!

[Jango]

Without knowing don't talk. The reason this is happening is because MiGs have crossed their service limits. IAF has one of the highest clocking hours in the world. MiG-21s are designed for 2 sorties only (After 40 years of service) a day while it does minimum 4 sorties. This is only an example. If you were to use Q-5 Fantans like a commercial airline flying like crazy, even your crash rate would be abysmal.

Compare this to the crash rates of MiG-29s and Mirages.. very very low. This is because most of our assets are simply being used since early 70s and late 60s. Thanks to corrupt government.

So , effectively you are conceding that your MO department or flight ops department are totally inept at handling their AF??,,,while pakistan is not becasue we have maintained Fantan and F-7 quite well IMO.

 

[rajusri]

then also keep the population of india in mind while talking about your economy adn GDP and all that. You have a billion + population to feed as well.

Talk about hypocrisy.

Our economy is 10 times larger but our airforce is twice? We spend much less % of GDP on defence than pakistan. We do not take any military aid. our per capita income is more than pakistan. so who is talking hypocrisy here?

 

[Jango]

seems it is the poster who is most ''frustrated''

by the way, I wasn't sure if your list was comprehensive.....did a quick few searches and can conclude that you need to improve on your ''research''

here are a few I found, i may have missed a few...



MIG-21 crashes in Assam, pilots safe

12 November, 2008



MiG-27 crashes near Alipurduar in WB
Kolkata, Nov 17 2008


IAF pilot killed in Surya Kiran plane crash in Karnataka

21 Jan 2009


Three IAF pilots dies in trainer plane crash

Mar 06, 2009


IAF's SU-30 MKI crashes, one pilot dead

April 30, 2009


MiG-27 aircraft crashes, 7 injured

15 May 2009

Mig-21 crashes near Jodhpur, pilot safe

27 May 2009


India An-32 air crash kills 13

10 June 2009


MiG-21 crashes in Upper Assam, pilot bails out

18 Jun 2009


IAF trainer aircraft crashes in Andhra, two pilots killed

31 July 2009


Indian Navy Harrier fighter aircraft crashes; pilot killed

Aug 21 2009


MIG 21 crashes in Punjab, pilot killed

September 10, 2009


IAF Mig-27 Crashes, Pilot & 2 Civilians Injured

October 23, 2009


DRDO Downplays Rustom-I Technology Demonstrator UAV's Crash

November 19, 2009


Sukhoi crashes in Rajasthan; pilots safe

Nov 30, 2009


Indian MiG-27 Crashes in West Bengal, Pilot Killed

February 16, 2010


IAF MiG-21 crashes in West Bengal, pilot safe

Feb 19, 2010


indian Air Force Dhruv Helicopter Crash-Lands in Jaisalmer

1 March 2010


Indian Navy aircraft crashes into residential area

Mar 3, 2010


4 Hurt in india Chopper Crash

June 2, 2010


Yet Another Indian Air Force Mig-21 Crashes

June 15, 2010


MiG-27 crashes in West Bengal, two pilots dead

Jul 24, 2010


MiG-21 fighter jet crashes in eastern India

August 8, 2010


MIG-27 crashes in West Bengal, pilot safe

September 24, 2010


MiG-27 aircraft crashes near Jodhpur, pilot safe

November 10, 2010


MiG-21 crashes in MP, pilot safe

Feb 4, 2011


Helicopter Crash Kills 17 in Northeast India

April 19, 2011


Trainer Aircraft crashes, pilots safe

April 28, 2011


Ship-borne MiG-29KUB jet for Indian Navy crashes in Russia

June 23, 2011

MiG-21 crashes in Rajasthan's Bikaner district, pilot dies

July 31 2011


3 killed in Indian Air Force plane crash

August 4 2011




which -- i believe -- leads us to a grand total of thirty (30) for the IAF. .

Owned him.

 

[rajusri]

seems it is the poster who is most ''frustrated''

by the way, I wasn't sure if your list was comprehensive.....did a quick few searches.

Forgive me if i'm missing on anything.....

If you are not blind and can read English much read the post and understand it. Or so frustrated that cannot read it? It is about 2008 why did you add 2009 and 2010? Did I mentioned same for PAF? No.

Owned him.

Are you same like him? Cannot read it is about 2008?

 

[Jango]

Our economy is 10 times larger but our airforce is twice? We spend much less % of GDP on defence than pakistan. We do not take any military aid. our per capita income is more than pakistan. so who is talking hypocrisy here?

taking the thread off topic, but, you people dont have a effing WoT to deal with!!!, things are very different so you cannot compare the economies of the 2 countries. And more than half of the military aid is taken in between by the politicians, even kayani has said so. Enough on this topic, lets get to the thread at hand.

 

[Jango]

If you are not blind and can read English much read the post and understand it. Or so frustrated that cannot read it? It is about 2008 why did you add 2009 and 2010? Did I mentioned same for PAF? No.


Are you same like him? Cannot read it is about 2008?

Are you picking 2008 for the sole fact that PAF equals IAF only that particular year??,,,,,1000 in 40 years, speaks for itself, PAF doesnt have that kind of atrocious record!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

seems it is the poster who is most ''frustrated''

by the way, I wasn't sure if your list was comprehensive.....did a quick few searches and can conclude that you need to improve on your ''research''

here are a few I found, i may have missed a few...



MIG-21 crashes in Assam, pilots safe

12 November, 2008



MiG-27 crashes near Alipurduar in WB

Kolkata, Nov 17 2008


IAF pilot killed in Surya Kiran plane crash in Karnataka

21 Jan 2009


Three IAF pilots dies in trainer plane crash

Mar 06, 2009


IAF's SU-30 MKI crashes, one pilot dead

April 30, 2009


MiG-27 aircraft crashes, 7 injured

15 May 2009

Mig-21 crashes near Jodhpur, pilot safe

27 May 2009


India An-32 air crash kills 13

10 June 2009


MiG-21 crashes in Upper Assam, pilot bails out

18 Jun 2009


IAF trainer aircraft crashes in Andhra, two pilots killed

31 July 2009


Indian Navy Harrier fighter aircraft crashes; pilot killed

Aug 21 2009


MIG 21 crashes in Punjab, pilot killed

September 10, 2009


IAF Mig-27 Crashes, Pilot & 2 Civilians Injured

October 23, 2009


DRDO Downplays Rustom-I Technology Demonstrator UAV's Crash

November 19, 2009


Sukhoi crashes in Rajasthan; pilots safe

Nov 30, 2009


Indian MiG-27 Crashes in West Bengal, Pilot Killed

February 16, 2010


IAF MiG-21 crashes in West Bengal, pilot safe

Feb 19, 2010


indian Air Force Dhruv Helicopter Crash-Lands in Jaisalmer

1 March 2010


Indian Navy aircraft crashes into residential area

Mar 3, 2010


4 Hurt in india Chopper Crash

June 2, 2010


Yet Another Indian Air Force Mig-21 Crashes

June 15, 2010


MiG-27 crashes in West Bengal, two pilots dead

Jul 24, 2010


MiG-21 fighter jet crashes in eastern India

August 8, 2010


MIG-27 crashes in West Bengal, pilot safe

September 24, 2010


MiG-27 aircraft crashes near Jodhpur, pilot safe

November 10, 2010


MiG-21 crashes in MP, pilot safe

Feb 4, 2011


Helicopter Crash Kills 17 in Northeast India

April 19, 2011


Trainer Aircraft crashes, pilots safe

April 28, 2011


Ship-borne MiG-29KUB jet for Indian Navy crashes in Russia

June 23, 2011

MiG-21 crashes in Rajasthan's Bikaner district, pilot dies

July 31 2011


3 killed in Indian Air Force plane crash

August 4 2011




which -- i believe -- leads us to a grand total of thirty (30) for the IAF......22 of them being fighter aircrafts

Dude u forget yesterdays mig-21 and todays Jag??? and maybe more...

 

[rajusri]

taking the thread off topic, but, you people dont have a effing WoT to deal with!!!, things are very different so you cannot compare the economies of the 2 countries. And more than half of the military aid is taken in between by the politicians, even kayani has said so. Enough on this topic, lets get to the thread at hand.

You started it anout want to get back to the topic? lol

then also keep the population of india in mind while talking about your economy adn GDP and all that. You have a billion + population to feed as well.

Talk about hypocrisy.

 

[SpArK]

Another crash of a fighter..... damn this is getting serious...hope MoD grounds all these antique ones and value human lives.

And thanks for all the "ones" celebrating India's crashes.

 

[rajusri]

Are you picking 2008 for the sole fact that PAF equals IAF only that particular year??,,,,,1000 in 40 years, speaks for itself, PAF doesnt have that kind of atrocious record!

2008 hurts!!!


If you have data about other years share. It will be same. PAF has twice the attrition rate than.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Dude u forget yesterdays mig-21 and todays Jag??? and maybe more...

well unlike some others, IAF has the fuel to fly!!

PAF doesnt have that kind of atrocious record!

You have to aircraft to crash.

and those aircraft should be those who have paid for.

Freebies crashing is no big deal!

 

[Jango]

2008 hurts!!!


If you have data about other years share. It will be same. PAF has twice the attrition rate than.

yup 2008 hurts, but these werent crashes, most of them were crash landings, and sorry, cant find an atrocious record for PAF like 1000 in 40, becasue we dont have one like that.

Now, bye bye.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

hmm well gee whiz; going by that logic, then PAF lost 5 FIGHTER aircrafts (compared to your 22)

3 from the list you kindly provided, as well as an F-16 which crashed @ Khoshab in 2009; and a Mirage-III (non-Rose) aircraft which was due for retirment (unfortunately, the pilot -- Fl Off. Yousef was martyred in the incident)

 

[Aramsogo]

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

well unlike some others, IAF has the fuel to fly!!



You have to aircraft to crash.

and those aircraft should be those who have paid for.

Freebies crashing is no big deal!

what a failed argument