Israel Trying to Develop Relations with Pakistan Through Facebook

[Desert Fox]

What is not recognizing Israel going to achieve for Pakistan?

Israel is a reality, we should recognize it as a state because its all about developing partnerships and looking out for our best interest.

I know the likes of you want us to be slaves to some third rate country but I want to see an independent and strong Pakistan, recognizing Israel would mean that we pursue our own policy, not some Ummah pleasing nonsense foreign policy that has left our nation in tatters.

Also, grow up, whats with this love nonsense?

your whole post is full of nonsense!!! I mean seriously, did you just pull all of that BS out of thin air???? Please point out to me where i said we should be "slave to Ummah"?? , i don't even believe in Ummah, care to explain what's the meaning of "Ummah" since your the one using that word in almost every one of your posts!!

Also please point out to me where in my post did i say we should be slaves to some third rate country????

I know the likes of you want us to be slaves to some third rate country

Jumping to conclusions eh? and I know that the likes of you want us to be slaves to israel and the west!

but I want to see an independent and strong Pakistan,

And so do i!!!

recognizing Israel would mean that we pursue our own policy,

So what your trying to say is that the world revolves around israel and that we should start boot licking israel?

Also, grow up, whats with this love nonsense?

what love? you love israel, not me so this applies to you!!!

 

[Desert Fox]

Yeap..! By not having diplomatic relations with Israel we are not on neutral side! We should be Neutral..!

by not supporting Arabs and by not recognizing israel!!!!!

 

[flameboard]

Might I remind you Israel hosts Pakistan's Balochi separatists? They just want access to South Western Pakistan, which borders Iran and can provide good access to the Persian Gulf. Pakistan is seen by the much of the world as a country which has much influence over the Arab world, because of which many have expressed an interest.

The reason many Musharraf supporters are supporting this is because Musharraf was making steps towards this during his presidency, Blind dogs do as they're master commands.

With diplomatic relations, Jundullah will get better funding from Israel which will lead more terrorists attacks in Balochistan in Iran and Pakistan destabilizing the area and possibly breaking up Pakistan.

Israel is even funding terrorists in Turkey and cutting off relation slowly, it ain't worth it.

Plus as Muslims we have to look out for the interests of our fellow Muslim brothers.

I could go on and on but in the end it's a terrible idea.

 

[flameboard]

In the end it depends on the politician and at the moment no politician will dare to speak pro-Israel not even Musharraf.

 

[T-Faz]

your whole post is full of nonsense!!! I mean seriously, did you just pull all of that BS out of thin air???? Please point out to me where i said we should be "slave to Ummah"?? , i don't even believe in Ummah, care to explain what's the meaning of "Ummah" since your the one using that word in almost every one of your posts!!

You post is full of BS, a common trait, when do I mention the Ummah all the time?

Point it out to me.

Your thinking is based on the logic fed to certain Pakistani's that we should not recognize Israel because they treat our Muslim 'brothers' badly.

What else could be the reason?

Ummah are your Muslim brothers who you care about but they don't give two *hits about us or our Kashmiris.

Also please point out to me where in my post did i say we should be slaves to some third rate country????

So why should we not recognize Israel?

I have explained my reasons above.

Jumping to conclusions eh? and I know that the likes of you want us to be slaves to israel and the west!

Slaves, no man, I want partners in science, technology and economy, you know the things that matter.

And so do i!!!

That would mean that we follow an independent policy, currently we follow the Arabic stand, even though some of them recognize Israel while we have to fight against them.

A strong Pakistan would recognize Israel and tell the Arabs to back off, we have to look out for our best interest.

So what your trying to say is that the world revolves around israel and that we should start boot licking israel?

Jumping to conclusions eh? where did I mention that we should lick boots, I am talking about recognition and partnership in many fields that Israel excels in.

We do have boot lickers if that job is required if it is required.

what love? you love israel, not me so this applies to you!!!

I cant move to Israel just yet, I have to ask her out first, show her some good times, then I will slowly propose, you know how love works.

I am sure you have experience of this with your local Maulana.

 

[Kompromat]

Better have relation with people like Israelis who have achieved so much as compared to some ragtag bunch of losers, I am talking about our Muslim brothers of course.

1: If you are talking about achievements in technological terms , then you cannot deny that Israel being a satellite state of the US has access to all top notch research done in the US , they get regular funding from the US , US funds their defense projects so they never run out of money.

What israel produces after weapons is "date fruit" - by your analogy the world should have sucked up to Nazis just because they were the best engineers in history of mankind and overlook the fact that they killed "millions" of innocent jews and gypsies ?

2: Our opposition to Israel is based on principles not on some god damn suck up to Arabs , i can't believe that people like you can simply disregard the mass killings of innocent Palestinians , the occupied lands and the consistent persecution of Gazans -- let me say its one hellova stuff to digest and one has to have your stomach to do it -- i do admire your digestive system !

3: Arabs have helped us "every single time" when "we were about to get smashed" !

I : Consistent support of Arabs and other countries for our Cause on Kashmir

II: Consistent Economical support while we were at war with India , every single time and when "we were embargoed" by the USA aka our "friend and an ally".

III: Military assistance to Pakistan by Muslim Countries in the 1965 and 1971 wars.

IV: Consistent and unconditional support to the state of Pakistan by the Muslim countries on our Nuclear and Missile program !

V: Consistent support of all Muslim countries , specially the Saudi Arabia when we were "sanctioned" after May 1998 nuclear tests!

VI: Free oil supply to Pakistan by the Saudis.

VII: Massive support during 2005 Kashmir earthquake by all Muslim countries specially by the saudis --

VIII: Emergency scale help by Muslim states towards Pakistan in 2010 Flood disaster , money received from Muslim countries makes up over 1 Billion dollars plus , hospitals , camps and food & medicine.

IX: Consistent support of Turkey in Pakistan's energy crisis by supplying world's largest ship borne generator.

Tumhain yaad ho kay na yaad ho --- btw Pakistan hasn't done anything for these Muslim states in return , why do you think we get help and what makes you think that Muslim states should be dumped and Zionist state of israel should be adopted which actually tried to bomb the crap out of you -- yes you might disregard it and try to fool someone by calling it a conspiracy theory but i say it after seeing the hard evidence and after talking to people who were involved in the contingency plans !

Now justify why what you have said should happen , just because you believe in some anti islamic pipe dream ? -- T-Faz people like you would be trashed in the dust bin of history.

Are you telling us that Pakistan should dump Muslim states and adopt a friendship with Israelis just because they make good weapons --- WOW i have just become a fan of yours !!

A Nation that kills on daily basis , is occupying a whole country , is in violation of over 60+ UN resolutions , Kills peace activists in international waters who were just trying to feed the starving kids of Gaza , Assassinate their opponents in dubai , use forged passports and fake identities to carry out their acts of lunacy , which provided full scale tactical support to indians during kargil conflict , tried to bomb the crap out of Pakistan , attacked Syria and Iraq unprecedentedly , is providing assistance to PKK rebels in Turkey to fight Turkish republic , providing support to BLA and TTP -- must be kept on a distance from Pakistan.

There is no way for you T-faz to justify the little theory of yours , i based on above facts reject it as none sense !

regards:

 

[Desert Fox]

Baloch choose Israel for exile government

New Delhi, May 6: Certain self-styled Baloch nationalists have launched a government of Balochistan in exile and nominated Mir Suleman Dawood Khan as the "King of Balochistan".
Mir Suleman Dawood Khan is described as the heir apparent of the Khan of Kalat, Mir Ahmad Yar Khan Baloch, who under duress signed documents to allow Pakistan to colonise Balochistan.
Mir Azaad Khan Baloch, who calls himself the general-secretary of the government-in-exile, says it is headquartered in Jerusalem, Israel.
A blog, governmentofbalochistan.blogspot.com, has also been launched from Israel.
The web page reads: "The territory of Balochistan (Baluchistan) is presently occupied by Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan. On April 18, 2006, we declared the government of Balochistan in exile and nominated his highness Mir Suleman Dawood Khan as the King of Balochistan."
The web page claims the government in exile is not an official organisation. "In fact, we are a group of Baloch nationalists scattered around the world who have embarked on a mission to liberate Balochistan by utilising the power of Internet. Thus, for the time being, we are a government in cyberspace run by real people."

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/1213-baloch-choose-israel-govt-exile.html (original link expired unfortunately)

 

[flameboard]

This is how Israel treats it's best ally. SHould we expect anything better?
YouTube - Israeli Terrorism Against America

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Baloch choose Israel for exile government

New Delhi, May 6: Certain self-styled Baloch nationalists have launched a government of Balochistan in exile and nominated Mir Suleman Dawood Khan as the "King of Balochistan".
Mir Suleman Dawood Khan is described as the heir apparent of the Khan of Kalat, Mir Ahmad Yar Khan Baloch, who under duress signed documents to allow Pakistan to colonise Balochistan.
Mir Azaad Khan Baloch, who calls himself the general-secretary of the government-in-exile, says it is headquartered in Jerusalem, Israel.
A blog, governmentofbalochistan.blogspot.com, has also been launched from Israel.
The web page reads: "The territory of Balochistan (Baluchistan) is presently occupied by Afghanistan, Iran and Pakistan. On April 18, 2006, we declared the government of Balochistan in exile and nominated his highness Mir Suleman Dawood Khan as the King of Balochistan."
The web page claims the government in exile is not an official organisation. "In fact, we are a group of Baloch nationalists scattered around the world who have embarked on a mission to liberate Balochistan by utilising the power of Internet. Thus, for the time being, we are a government in cyberspace run by real people."

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strategic-geopolitical-issues/1213-baloch-choose-israel-govt-exile.html (original link expired unfortunately)

king my azz.

 

[T-Faz]

Might I remind you Israel hosts Pakistan's Balochi separatists? They just want access to South Western Pakistan, which borders Iran and can provide good access to the Persian Gulf. Pakistan is seen by the much of the world as a country which has much influence over the Arab world, because of which many have expressed an interest.

No, I think you have got the Arabs from UAE mixed up with Israel.

“India and the UAE (reportedly due to opposition to construction of the Gwadar port) were funding and arming the Baloch. Pasha also claimed that the Russian government was directly involved in funding/training/supporting the insurgency.”

MPs told Russia, India and UAE involved in Baloch insurgency – The Express Tribune

The reason many Musharraf supporters are supporting this is because Musharraf was making steps towards this during his presidency, Blind dogs do as they're master commands.

I don't support Musharraf, as for blind dogs, I will assume you are one if you don't provide proof of Israel's involvement in Balochistan.

With diplomatic relations, Jundullah will get better funding from Israel which will lead more terrorists attacks in Balochistan in Iran and Pakistan destabilizing the area and possibly breaking up Pakistan.

Jundullah is supported by the US, not Israel, if you got proof, show me, till then there is no point in imagining stuff up.

Israel is even funding terrorists in Turkey and cutting off relation slowly, it ain't worth it.

Thats Turkey and Israels business, we don't want to get involved.

Plus as Muslims we have to look out for the interests of our fellow Muslim brothers.

LOL, here we go.

Muslim Brothers.

But these brothers support insurgencies in Pakistani, fund militants/terrorists, they kill us in their countries (Bahrain), they are racist towards us.

But they are our brothers.

 

[Kompromat]

Same people were calling murderer of Salman Taseer hero! Do you subscribe to that mentality?

We are discussing two different issues here - which one do you want do discuss ?

 

[Kompromat]

Nations , that don't recognize Israel as a state.

 

[Jigs]

Might I remind you Israel hosts Pakistan's Balochi separatists? They just want access to South Western Pakistan, which borders Iran and can provide good access to the Persian Gulf. Pakistan is seen by the much of the world as a country which has much influence over the Arab world, because of which many have expressed an interest.

The reason many Musharraf supporters are supporting this is because Musharraf was making steps towards this during his presidency, Blind dogs do as they're master commands.

With diplomatic relations, Jundullah will get better funding from Israel which will lead more terrorists attacks in Balochistan in Iran and Pakistan destabilizing the area and possibly breaking up Pakistan.

Israel is even funding terrorists in Turkey and cutting off relation slowly, it ain't worth it.

Plus as Muslims we have to look out for the interests of our fellow Muslim brothers.

I could go on and on but in the end it's a terrible idea.

There is zero proof that Israel funds the PKK. Only none credible newspapers publish these stories and people post them here for troll bait.

Infact the only "proof" these places have given is that it happened close to the date the flotilla incident took place. That alone should tell you the agenda of some of these newspapers. So unless you have credible proof you can not claim so.

The video that came up was contractors training Peshmerga who are part of the Kurdish regional security force in northern Iraq and they are not part of the PKK which they infact fight.

 

[Kompromat]

To Pakistani illusionists!

 

[500]

So... those could be classified as enemies of the idea.

Seems guy who created that page already forgot about it.

Might I remind you Israel hosts Pakistan's Balochi separatists?

Nonsense. No one in Israel even knows who are Balochi separatists.

Israel is even funding terrorists in Turkey

Israel haters spread these rumors all the time, but no one could find any evidence for it.