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Israel-Palestinian Conflict Resurgence 2021: Al-Aqsa attacks, riots, rockets, military clashes and Jerusalem conflict 2v

Exactly. If Hezbollah attacks from Labennon then it will drag whole Labennon population into israeli bombing raids and would have a backlash later. Also israel-usa wants to disarm or roll back Hezbollah weapons build up to reduce future threats. Even they can tell usa to bomb Labennon to degrade Hezbollah with the excuse of damaging ceasefire efforts if there is not a cause that stands high enough in the escalation scale to finish the previous 2006 ceasefire and enter a new war.

It doesnt mean Hezbollah, Pmu or others can't attack israel. They can make it fit into certain legal issues that noone can say anything including usa. For example Golan heights are under israeli occupation. A joint operation with Syrian military and pmu to clean out Golan from israeli occupation can be a possible future operation. Also they reserve the right to strike back at israel when israel strikes them with airplanes for example precision rounds like fateh-110 against their airbases or similar targets. Hezbollah may not claim responsibility or can claim a self defense response against its operations in Golan heights for example. putin wont be saying anything against this if he does not want to contradict his previous stance against israeli aggression. He should stay aside as he did for Azerbaijani reclaim of Karabagh region or openly say he is pro-israel.

However without air defense that needs to be transferred from Iran that would become very costly as well and Syrian Buk batteries cannot cover too much if not repositioned for a Golan operation. Even if Buk batteries are positioned they need shorad vehicles against israeli anti radar ops. Shorad vehicles(crotale variants) are small and can be transferred to Syria easily. Buk can be supplied by Syrian army and later Iran can transfer its sams. These should be planned beforehand and with an escalation ladder can be put into use within a totally legitimate framework that includes responding back against israeli aerial attacks with tactical missiles. If ceasefire is not reached and escalations continue israel would be surrounded from multiple fronts without Hezbollah initiating an attack from Labennon.

What if any of Israel's adversary who joins this war focuses on taking out Israel's airbases? Israel (Occupied Palestine), being a small country, doesn't have big mountains or hardened areas, as far as I can see, that can withstand powerful ballistic or cruise missiles. They're just being too lucky that Palestinians in Gaza don't have the kind of powerful weapons that can take out those air bases. So my question is, if a powerful adversary deploys such a powerful assault and take out those airbases, shouldn't Israel be brought to its knees? They don't have an aircraft carrier, so once those airbases are taken out, those fighter jets would've been useless.

They still have the Jericho missile; but that itself can be deterred as well if an adversary, with tens of thousands of powerful ballistic and cruise missiles, just focusing on taking them out.

Another thing that I can see, Israelis don't look to be the kind of people who could put up with a prolonged war that can cause huge devastation. So any powerful adversary can really turn the tables on them.
 
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My heart goes out for the Palestinians who got martyred because of unnecessary tussle between IDF & Hamas. There should be discussion and only discussions only to give Palestinians their rights to coexist.
Let me try to simplify this for you

You want the lions to sit on the table with the hyenas (Israelis) that is and discuss terms.


Till the whole of Palestine was fighting the jews never dared.

Since fatah went the Mandela way they lost control of the entire west Bank.

The only reason the jews have this facade of a freedom to sell the world that they gave to gaza because they couldn't control hamas and the gazans we see this Bi yearly conflict.


If hamas and gaza today decides to lay arms, see how it starts to shrink tomorrow from where it is already. Under the guises of one excuse or another.
 
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I blame the gulf states monarchs for our big losses of al Aqsa masjid and believers. can these useless fckers not stop there oil production to boaster moral and resistance instead of helping Jews and west to humiliate us all. fck UN and stop with useless words of condemnation don’t change anything
 
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What if any of Israel's adversary who joins this war focuses on taking out Israel's airbases? Israel (Occupied Palestine), being a small country, doesn't have big mountains or hardened areas, as far as I can see, that can withstand powerful ballistic or cruise missiles. They're just being too lucky that Palestinians in Gaza don't have the kind of powerful weapons that can take out those air bases. So my question is, if a powerful adversary deploys such a powerful assault and take out those airbases, shouldn't Israel be brought to its knees? They don't have an aircraft carrier, so once those airbases are taken out, those fighter jets would've been useless.

They still have the Jericho missile; but that itself can be deterred as well if an adversary, with tens of thousands of powerful ballistic and cruise missiles, just focusing on taking them out.

Another thing that I can see, Israelis don't look to be the kind of people who could put up with a prolonged war that can cause huge devastation. So any powerful adversary can really turn the tables on them.

Yes but if it is done by Hezbollah for example from Labennon without a pretext then israel will call usa to join the fight or similar which would be pretty stupid. A legitimate excuse like taking back Golan heights under Un conventions would be a suitable operation. Any airstrike can be countered with Buk batteries(israeli af needs to enter inside airspace to hit continiously moving targets with optical-laser guided bombs, its usual long range attacks work only for static targets like against buildings and radar sites) and shorads(crotales etc.) transferred from Iran can protect mostly static Buk batteries. Hezbollah and other groups can respond with tactical bms like fateh-110 against airbases after each israeli strike as a legitimate self defense response to degrade israeli air capability which would cripple their anti-Palestinian operations as well.
 
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There is some truth to this guys analysis on Pakistani youtubers on this conflict:


Mature discussion on the conflict ... Allah reham karey muslim Ummah pe ... bohat nifaaq hey ...
 
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1- Palestine needs a Muslim Security force
2- Chinese Embassy in Palestine
3- Pakistan/Turkey/Iran/Saudia/Egypt Take a united stand on solution under a OIC banner


> 750 Million aid for Weapons given to Illegal Settlers supported by USA is 100% due to Religious Fundamentalist support
The US guy is doing his fundamentalist religious duty by giving weapons to Israel

The Christian guy is doing his duty by giving weapons to Israel for Jesus (The story believed by many fundamentalist in USA)
  • Bill Clinton -> Money Weapon to Israel wants to go to heaven
  • Bush -> Money and weapon to Israel wants to go to heaven
  • Obama -> Money and weapon , infact 5 years of 13 billion per year support
  • Trump -> Money and weapon , hell I will even go stand by the wall to be 50% Jew see if feel a pinch in heart
All the way from 1990 to 2021 did the Palestinians get their own state ? Nope !!

We are dealing with a fanatical Christians in relation to Israel

If there was no 'Jesus Angle' in story I doubt any US person would give weapon to this country


  • Israel is now also hitting up vaccination areas in Palestine with aim to spread Covid in Palestinain lands so Genocide is complete


Muslim Nations need to step up the game

Forget Saudi and Egypt.
Arab states split for first time on refusal to condemn Israel over Gaza
Silence over bombing of occupied territory puts UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan at odds with their populations
protesters with israeli flags on fire on the ground

Sudanese protesters burn Israeli flags at a rally in January against the deal between the states that has made Sudan wary of condemning Jerusalem. Photograph: Ashraf Shazly/AFP/Getty Images

Martin Chulov Middle East correspondent
Mon 17 May 2021

As Israel and Hamas have pressed closer to all-out war, a new battle for the narrative is being fought among Arab states. For the first time in the many clashes between the two foes, regional unity over who is to blame and what should be done to stop the fighting has splintered.


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While some states with Muslim majorities, such as Turkey and Iran, have accused Israel of incitement at the al-Aqsa mosque and committing atrocities in Gaza, other countries that had followed suit during previous flare-ups have this time been more restrained.
The relative silence has been led by states that made peace with Israel in the last year of the Trump administration and are now standard bearers of the so-called Abraham Accords.
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The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan, which all recently normalised ties with Israel, now find themselves balancing their new relationships against citizens who have been vocal in their anger at Israel’s violence.
Long-time observers of Israel and Palestine say the divergent reactions to this round of fighting have put some regional powers in a difficult position with their own populations.
“It is extraordinary, in this denial position of the Emiratis in particular, that they have not uttered hardly a single criticism of what is happening in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories,” said Chris Doyle, director of the Council for Arab-British Understanding (CAABU).
“It is sending out a signal from the Emirati leadership that we are not going to be swayed away from this burgeoning alliance with Israel, which they consider to be valuable to future plans; this includes countering Iran, Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood groups.
“There is plenty of room to make a very supportive statement of the rights of the Palestinians, without endorsing Hamas. And they haven’t done that.”



In what appeared to be a state-backed response, the hashtag “Palestine is not my cause” circulated in the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait over the weekend. It made little dent in region-wide support for Twitter accounts from Gaza and East Jerusalem decrying scenes of violence and the Israeli leadership.
“[These governments] are on the wrong side of public opinion in how they’re seen and received by the populations of the Arab region,” said Mohanad Hage Ali, research fellow at Carnegie Middle East Centre. “They’re trying to pursue an active foreign policy holding positions that they’ve never had before. They could be seen as synonymous with the Israeli occupation and the Israeli policy in the region. This will have an impact on not only Israel, but their new Arab allies. And this will tarnish their reputation.”
“The regimes are very nervous about Arab public opinion,” said Doyle. “These scenes of the bombing of Gaza will make the leadership seem very worried and make them wish they would end sooner rather than later.”
Coverage of the conflict has been nearly non-existent in UAE newspapers and muted in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, which is yet to sign up to a peace deal with Israel, but has given hints that it may do so. The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, visited Saudi heir, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, in Neom on the Red Sea coast earlier this year. Ties between the two states are deeper than ever – even without concrete moves towards a peace deal.
Riyadh’s position has placed a two-state solution at the centre of any solution – a stance long adopted by the Arab League. It has not chosen more confrontational language than the region’s smaller players. “What we’ve seen in the past is that the king and the crown prince do not necessarily see the conflict in the same way, and the king would be more inclined to be critical.
something else happining in spain!!!!!!!!!!!

The Spanish PM has declared a national emergency and sent troops and extra police to the Spanish enclave of Ceuta after 6,000+ migrants crossed from Morocco. Spain send troops & police to stop illegals,
This is Morocco not Spain
 
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