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This has become standard statement before every night, I'm sure they said this about last night too
Israel-Palestinian Conflict Resurgence 2021: Al-Aqsa attacks, riots, rockets, military clashes and Jerusalem conflict 2v
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Exactly. If Hezbollah attacks from Labennon then it will drag whole Labennon population into israeli bombing raids and would have a backlash later. Also israel-usa wants to disarm or roll back Hezbollah weapons build up to reduce future threats. Even they can tell usa to bomb Labennon to degrade Hezbollah with the excuse of damaging ceasefire efforts if there is not a cause that stands high enough in the escalation scale to finish the previous 2006 ceasefire and enter a new war.
It doesnt mean Hezbollah, Pmu or others can't attack israel. They can make it fit into certain legal issues that noone can say anything including usa. For example Golan heights are under israeli occupation. A joint operation with Syrian military and pmu to clean out Golan from israeli occupation can be a possible future operation. Also they reserve the right to strike back at israel when israel strikes them with airplanes for example precision rounds like fateh-110 against their airbases or similar targets. Hezbollah may not claim responsibility or can claim a self defense response against its operations in Golan heights for example. putin wont be saying anything against this if he does not want to contradict his previous stance against israeli aggression. He should stay aside as he did for Azerbaijani reclaim of Karabagh region or openly say he is pro-israel.
However without air defense that needs to be transferred from Iran that would become very costly as well and Syrian Buk batteries cannot cover too much if not repositioned for a Golan operation. Even if Buk batteries are positioned they need shorad vehicles against israeli anti radar ops. Shorad vehicles(crotale variants) are small and can be transferred to Syria easily. Buk can be supplied by Syrian army and later Iran can transfer its sams. These should be planned beforehand and with an escalation ladder can be put into use within a totally legitimate framework that includes responding back against israeli aerial attacks with tactical missiles. If ceasefire is not reached and escalations continue israel would be surrounded from multiple fronts without Hezbollah initiating an attack from Labennon.
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The neighborhood now reeks of the skunk water. This is the car they use to spray protesters—it’s an intense, chemically-manipulated liquid that sticks on your skin for a week if it came in direct contact. Allergic reactions to the skunks have been reported.
... WTF. SKUNK WATER??????????
... WTF. SKUNK WATER??????????
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korean Muslim confronts Israelis about Palestine on Omegle.
Arab states split for first time on refusal to condemn Israel over Gaza
Silence over bombing of occupied territory puts UAE, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan at odds with their populations
Sudanese protesters burn Israeli flags at a rally in January against the deal between the states that has made Sudan wary of condemning Jerusalem. Photograph: Ashraf Shazly/AFP/Getty Images
Martin Chulov Middle East correspondent
Mon 17 May 2021
As Israel and Hamas have pressed closer to all-out war, a new battle for the narrative is being fought among Arab states. For the first time in the many clashes between the two foes, regional unity over who is to blame and what should be done to stop the fighting has splintered.
Are Israel and Palestine on the brink of another war?
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While some states with Muslim majorities, such as Turkey and Iran, have accused Israel of incitement at the al-Aqsa mosque and committing atrocities in Gaza, other countries that had followed suit during previous flare-ups have this time been more restrained.
The relative silence has been led by states that made peace with Israel in the last year of the Trump administration and are now standard bearers of the so-called Abraham Accords.
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The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Morocco and Sudan, which all recently normalised ties with Israel, now find themselves balancing their new relationships against citizens who have been vocal in their anger at Israel’s violence.
Long-time observers of Israel and Palestine say the divergent reactions to this round of fighting have put some regional powers in a difficult position with their own populations.
“It is extraordinary, in this denial position of the Emiratis in particular, that they have not uttered hardly a single criticism of what is happening in Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories,” said Chris Doyle, director of the Council for Arab-British Understanding (CAABU).
“It is sending out a signal from the Emirati leadership that we are not going to be swayed away from this burgeoning alliance with Israel, which they consider to be valuable to future plans; this includes countering Iran, Turkey and the Muslim Brotherhood groups.
“There is plenty of room to make a very supportive statement of the rights of the Palestinians, without endorsing Hamas. And they haven’t done that.”
In what appeared to be a state-backed response, the hashtag “Palestine is not my cause” circulated in the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait over the weekend. It made little dent in region-wide support for Twitter accounts from Gaza and East Jerusalem decrying scenes of violence and the Israeli leadership.
“[These governments] are on the wrong side of public opinion in how they’re seen and received by the populations of the Arab region,” said Mohanad Hage Ali, research fellow at Carnegie Middle East Centre. “They’re trying to pursue an active foreign policy holding positions that they’ve never had before. They could be seen as synonymous with the Israeli occupation and the Israeli policy in the region. This will have an impact on not only Israel, but their new Arab allies. And this will tarnish their reputation.”
“The regimes are very nervous about Arab public opinion,” said Doyle. “These scenes of the bombing of Gaza will make the leadership seem very worried and make them wish they would end sooner rather than later.”
Coverage of the conflict has been nearly non-existent in UAE newspapers and muted in Bahrain and Saudi Arabia, which is yet to sign up to a peace deal with Israel, but has given hints that it may do so. The Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, visited Saudi heir, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, in Neom on the Red Sea coast earlier this year. Ties between the two states are deeper than ever – even without concrete moves towards a peace deal.
Riyadh’s position has placed a two-state solution at the centre of any solution – a stance long adopted by the Arab League. It has not chosen more confrontational language than the region’s smaller players. “What we’ve seen in the past is that the king and the crown prince do not necessarily see the conflict in the same way, and the king would be more inclined to be critical.
something else happining in spain!!!!!!!!!!!
The Spanish PM has declared a national emergency and sent troops and extra police to the Spanish enclave of Ceuta after 6,000+ migrants crossed from Morocco. Spain send troops & police to stop illegals,
That enclave is in Africa. It is a colony. It should be part of Morocco.
Israel gonna Israel. Just being typical evil, sadistic, cruel bastards.
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Because a militia can't fight a full scale conventional war against a powerful military. Hamas deliberately wants to keep the Israeli casualties extremely low otherwise the results will be devastating for Palestinians
of course it is the strategy
Also note the economic losses for israel in countering a dirt cheap pipe rocket with a sophisticated missile worth thousands of dollars
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‘Every day there is bombing’: Israel airstrikes hitting affluent heart of Gaza
Areas that have escaped worst of bombing in previous conflicts are bearing brunt this time around
Israel airstrikes hitting affluent heart of Gaza
Areas that have escaped worst of bombing in previous conflicts are bearing brunt this time around
Hazem Balousha in Gaza City and Peter Beaumont
Tue 18 May 2021 16.43 BST
For the residents of the central neighbourhoods of Gaza City the last nine days have been unusually brutal.
The affluent heart of Gaza’s Palestinian society, in past conflicts areas like Tal al-Hawa and al-Rimal have been less heavily hit by the periodic wars between Israel and Hamas that have shaken the coastal strip since 2008.
All that, however, has changed in the latest round of conflict.
In the apartment blocks and houses from where Gaza’s professionals and businesspeople watched the worst of the bombing in past wars from their windows, the conflict has been brought home in recent days.
Over the weekend, Israeli strikes hit at the heart of al-Rimal, killing 42 people alone in Wehda Street, the thoroughfare that runs from close to the Shifa hospital and cuts through the heart of the district.
Another controversial strike, brought down the Jalaa Tower, home to the offices of Associated Press and Al Jazeera.
On Tuesday morning an Israeli military spokesperson Hidai Zilberman said al-Rimal district would be the focus of strikes again and would continue to be attacked throughout the day.
Most of the professionals who live in the more affluent areas have not had to flee to a UN-run shelter. Instead, in the past, they have received relatives from locations further out.
“Al-Rimal is the backbone of Gaza City,” said Taghreed Al-Omari, 38, who lives in a three-story building with her husband’s siblings and their children.
“It’s the most beautiful place in Gaza City. At this time of year it’s usually full of people for the Eid holidays and beyond. But now it is empty, full of rubble and sadness.
A collapsed building in al-Rimal after Israeli airstrikes. Photograph: Anadolu Agency/Getty Images
“Now every day there is bombing in our area and there is a building that collapses. Most of the windows of the house are smashed, we replaced it with plastic temporarily and there are cracks in the walls of the house.
“I used to check on my friends in other areas of the Gaza Strip. This war I am receiving calls to check on us. In similar periods of conflict in the past my husband’s relatives would come to our house to escape from their homes in different areas of the Gaza Strip. This time no one came to our house because the bombing is bombing closer to us than them.
“Usually people in the border areas, most of them go to UNRWA [United Nations relief and works agency for Palestine refugees] schools as shelter. We have never gone through that experience. And if our house is targeted, we will go to the house of our relatives or friends.
Far removed from the narrow lanes of the crowded refugee camps like neighbouring al-Shati, where Hamas was born, those who live in these areas are the minority able to afford to socialise and dine at the Gaza Strip’s restaurants and hotels, buy solar panels when electricity is in short supply, and survive most easily its economic, security and social vicissitudes.
Made up of Gaza’s university professors, doctors, civil servants and businesspeople, they are a class, sometimes apart and often more secular, that historically has tended towards being more critical of Hamas.
All of which raises the question why areas like al-Rimal have been hit so hard.
While the Israel Defence Forces have talked about Gaza City as a whole being Hamas’s “nerve centre”, and say they are targeting Hamas assets and senior leaders hidden among the civilian population, including claims of a massive buried tunnel network, some Palestinians in Gaza believe the areas are being attacked precisely because they are more wealthy.
Mkhaimar Abusada, professor of political science at Al-Azhar University in Gaza and a well-known analyst, has also noticed the middle class being hit far harder than in previous conflicts.
“It’s clear that there is pressure being exerted on Gaza’s middle class by bombing the al-Rimal area more heavily. Forty two people were killed on Wehda Street, which constitutes about a quarter of those killed during the war.”
A former Knesset member, Chaim Yelin, had suggested in 2018 that destroying al-Rimal, the main centre of the Gazan economy, would mean “the elites will not have a place to return”.
But if it is a tactic to push an influential section of Palestinian society by bringing the war home to them and push Hamas to stop firing rockets, Abusada is not convinced it will necessarily be effective.
“It seems that there is an understanding being suggested in recent days: stop firing rockets towards Tel Aviv in exchange we’ll stop the bombing the towers in Gaza.
“But I don’t think that pressure on Gaza’s middle class will push people to demand Hamas to stop firing rockets.
“Because there is no real economy in Gaza in the actual sense. Gaza is not Beirut, it is not Cairo, and it is not Amman. The Arab countries have something to lose, while Gaza has nothing to lose.”
For Muhammad Al-Mashlakhoun, 42, a father of four works who for a non-governmental organisation and lives in an apartment on the fifth floor of a 10 storey residential building in the middle of al-Rimal, the last week and a half have been harrowing.
“This war seems more cruel here than other previous wars,” he told the Guardian, describing his experience of the current fighting.
“I’ve lived in Gaza all my life. Previous wars [in 2008, 2012 and 2014] were fought much more in the border areas, but this time I don’t know why, there have been deliberate strikes in the centre of Gaza City.
“There is bombing in many areas in the Gaza Strip, but these areas haven’t seen what has happened in al-Rimal and the centre of Gaza City this time.
“Many buildings neighbouring ours were hit. Government headquarters and towers were bombed, including Shorooq Tower, which is 100 metres away from my home, as well as the Jalaa Tower, where AJ [Al Jazeera] and the Associated Press are located.
“And there was the Al-Jawhara tower, which is less than 500 metres from my house.
“What should I do? I don’t know. Should I go to areas farther from the Gaza City centre? There is no safe place in the entire Gaza Strip.”
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sarcastic but to the point,
ps, mod,s , pls dont ban me again!
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فی الحال تو ملتان تک پہنچے ہیں جہاں کامیابی کے ساتھ جاوید ہاشمی کا گھر گرا دیا ہے۔ انشاء اللہ ایک دن یروشلم تک بھی پہنچ ہی جائیں گے۔
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خانہ کعبہ کا دروازہ تو کئی لیڈران کے لئے کھلتا رہا ہے ، مگر اصل مرد کا بچہ وہ ہو گا جو بیت المقدس کا دروازہ کھلوائے گا۔
Translated from Urdu by
The door of the Ka'bah has been open to many leaders, but the real man's child will be the one who will open the door to the Temple.
ps, mod,s , pls dont ban me again!
Umer Shareef
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فی الحال تو ملتان تک پہنچے ہیں جہاں کامیابی کے ساتھ جاوید ہاشمی کا گھر گرا دیا ہے۔ انشاء اللہ ایک دن یروشلم تک بھی پہنچ ہی جائیں گے۔
Umer Shareef
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خانہ کعبہ کا دروازہ تو کئی لیڈران کے لئے کھلتا رہا ہے ، مگر اصل مرد کا بچہ وہ ہو گا جو بیت المقدس کا دروازہ کھلوائے گا۔
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The door of the Ka'bah has been open to many leaders, but the real man's child will be the one who will open the door to the Temple.
Peace be there
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My heart goes out for the Palestinians who got martyred because of unnecessary tussle between IDF & Hamas. There should be discussion and only discussions only to give Palestinians their rights to coexist.
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