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Israel Hijacks Aid cargo, executes hostages - Pak journo, Talat Hussain taken hostage

FORMER US MARINE DISARMS ISRAELI COMMANDOs

O'Keefe is a former marine who served in the 1991 Gulf War. He said he renounced his US citizenship in protest over America's "funding of war, death and murder". He has been active in many international human rights campaigns and in 2003 he started Human Shield, the volunteer mission of peace activists who acted as human shields in Iraq.

A dedicated peace activist Ken O'Keefe says on his website: "We have been conditioned to be selfish, ignorant and destructive. But our true nature is quite the opposite. Raised with love, protected from danger, allowed to be free, we are a most magnificent of species. In a sane and natural state we shall exemplify the 'golden rule' and we will have peace."

In a telephone conversation in the last 48 hours O'Keefe told fellow activists: "I want to discuss my role in defending the ship and disarming two Israeli commandos along with conditions and treatment while in Israeli custody, including two beatings at the hands of Israeli agents."

This guy is hardcore enough that I'll forgive him for renouncing his citizenship. He's still in the anglosphere, so he can join /new/'s pantheon.

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/international_politics/gaza+activist+aposbeaten+in+is
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SOURCE : AFP

"According to a representative of Ayatollah Khamenei, Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards are ready to provide a military escort to cargo ships trying to break Israel's blockade of Gaza."

That , if true , is a very brave step by Iran.. Israel this time should not get away easily with the terrorism they have done....

I wish that it happens so that Israel may get a lesson that its not only the power in the middle east......
 
Is it not the height of moral depravity to endorse those breaking a blockade to supply a party who wishes to kill millions of people in the name of phony humanitarianism? It has made you cynical and cruel, hasn't it? How many of your countrymen are affected the same way? Why doesn't the corruption in Pakistan ever end? Why is today's Germany, which acknowledges the horror of its ancestors, a "normal" country while Pakistan, which never acknowledges any wicked deed, in deep doo-doo? You don't see connections and parallels?

And this is where your bull Sh!t stars. Have fun deceiving others with your cr@p, while on one hand you endorse the systematic killings of the innocent. And on the other you act like a drama queen at the baning of FB. I am done with a zionist sympathizer who have no respect for a human life.
 
It does not mention how many you have to kill to consider it a genocide -
So pretty much at the start what you are confessing is that this is not a matter of wholesale and deliberate murder, as Nazis did of Europe's Jews.

Is israel deliberately and systematically destroying in whole or in part the Palestinians by blocking their rights and freedom?
"Rights" is a term, I have learned, that to some Arabs means, "the right to work to destroy Israel". So the concept of "Palestinian rights" needs to be understood precisely. And no, "freedom" - as in freedom of movement - isn't in the scope of the genocide definition.

As for freedom from tyranny - that's the reason why Hamas must be opposed, not supported.

How many of the above can be applicable to the israelies actions in the neighboring countries. Almost all of the above.
None at all. It is the difference between what things are and what they are called.
 

The boats were shot at BEFORE the Israeli's came in.

A US Marine disarmed two of the Israeli Commando's himself.
 
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So if I'm walking along the street minding my own business, talking to people here and there, and I'm suddenly surrounded by a dozen thugs who want to maim, kill, or capture me, and my only weapon is a gun, it isn't right for me to shoot them in self-defense?

I have read that Muslim boys whose mothers submit to purdah may form gangs on the street, starting at a very early age. I can see that to someone inured to gang culture the idea of the little guy standing up for himself is instinctively offensive. Is this your background, and are these your feelings?

Wow! Do you really REALLY think that the bolded part is in anyway related to what happened on the boat?

How about the following?

You are on your way to help out the people in need who are restricted to a small piece of land with not enough resources like food, water, wheelchairs, hospitals, medicine etc... While you are on the ship in the international waters, hundreds of commandos invade your ship. What would you do? I guess Americans would just sit and watch if Iranians did the same to you.

It is hilarious sometimes how funny you guys are.
 
And this is where your bull Sh!t stars. Have fun deceiving others with your cr@p, while on one hand you endorse the systematic killings of the innocent. And on the other you act like a drama queen at the baning of FB. I am done with a zionist sympathizer who have no respect for a human life.
If Zionists didn't have great respect for the lives of themselves and others, than why are there any Palestinian refugees at all? Why didn't Israel just massacre them yesterday or today? Why is Israel 20% Arab? And if you can't detail your accusation that I am "deceiving others" than why shouldn't all readers, Pakistani and non-Pakistani, Muslim and non-Muslim, conclude that you're really trying to cover up the truth with false accusations?
 
So pretty much at the start what you are confessing is that this is not a matter of wholesale and deliberate murder, as Nazis did of Europe's Jews.

"Rights" is a term, I have learned, that to some Arabs means, "the right to work to destroy Israel". So the concept of "Palestinian rights" needs to be understood precisely. And no, "freedom" - as in freedom of movement - isn't in the scope of the genocide definition.

As for freedom from tyranny - that's the reason why Hamas must be opposed, not supported.

None at all. It is the difference between what things are and what they are called.

Well I have already said that I wont cater to a sorry figure for a human being that you are. But just to answer that allegation that you are leveling against me. I am not suggesting any thing I have quoted every thing with my statement. But you are too slow to read and react to it. And the rest of it just goes on to show what you are.
 
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@ Solomon

And no, "freedom" - as in freedom of movement - isn't in the scope of the genocide definition.

Read Again if it sits in:

(CPPCG)Article 2 of this convention defines genocide as "any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group."[2]


But I guess for you the freedom of movement dont fall under the conditions of life. It ok to be a terrorist sympathizer, but reading and understanding rather then shooting it from the @$$ works better.
 
If Zionists didn't have great respect for the lives of themselves and others, than why are there any Palestinian refugees at all? Why didn't Israel just massacre them yesterday or today? Why is Israel 20% Arab? And if you can't detail your accusation that I am "deceiving others" than why shouldn't all readers, Pakistani and non-Pakistani, Muslim and non-Muslim, conclude that you're really trying to cover up the truth with false accusations?

Don't worry buddy, whatever are left of them, they will be thrown out too or will be subjected under Zionist rules and regulations as usual and with passage of time finished.
 
If Zionists didn't have great respect for the lives of themselves and others, than why are there any Palestinian refugees at all? Why didn't Israel just massacre them yesterday or today? Why is Israel 20% Arab? And if you can't detail your accusation that I am "deceiving others" than why shouldn't all readers, Pakistani and non-Pakistani, Muslim and non-Muslim, conclude that you're really trying to cover up the truth with false accusations?

The Palestinian refugees who are not allowed to return to their houses. The 20 % Arabs who are suppressed to the max. How many times have they tried. But you are so naive to think that if they had wanted to they will just do it and be done with it. Now on your statement, why dont you ask the mods to make a poll to see if people will agree to your :blah::blah::blah:
 
Were the activists and aid workers delivering or carrying weapons to Gaza? No.

Were the activists and aid workers planning to assault IDF ships or soldiers once they landed in Gaza? No.

Were the activists and aid workers in any way planning to support attacks on non-combatants? No.

Were the activists and aid workers planning to breach an illegal blockade of millions of residents of Gaza, a blockade that is causing immense human suffering according to the UN and various other international organizations? Yes.

To paraphrase my comments on another thread, I wasn't aware that people opposing Israeli policies of occupying millions of people and keeping them imprisoned in ghettos (increasingly smaller in size as Israel takes more and more of their productive land to build settlements for Israelis), starving them through a blockade and periodically launching military raids into those contained and blockaded ghettos, could be categorized as 'terrorists'. The Israelis however, doing all of the above, are just that.

Sounds like 'District 9' (the movie), except the people in the camps are ordinary humans, not aliens. Closer to reality, sounds like the restricted living spaces set up for Black South Africans by the minority Whites under apartheid.
 
A map pf the Bantustans set up by the aprtheid regime in South Africa - under which the majority blacks were restricted to largely unproductive ghettos, with all kinds of restrictions - from wiki:




Apartheid (Afrikaans pronunciation: [ɐˈpɐrtɦəit], separateness) was a system of legal racial segregation enforced by the National Party government in South Africa between 1948 and 1994, under which the rights of the majority non-white inhabitants of South Africa were curtailed and minority rule by white people was maintained.

Racial segregation in South Africa began in colonial times, but apartheid as an official policy was introduced following the general election of 1948. New legislation classified inhabitants into racial groups ("black", "white", "coloured", and "Indian"),[1] and residential areas were segregated, sometimes by means of forced removals. From 1958, black people were deprived of their citizenship, legally becoming citizens of one of ten tribally based self-governing homelands called bantustans, four of which became nominally independent states. The government segregated education, medical care, and other public services, and provided black people with services inferior to those of white people.[2]


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The similarities to what Israel is doing against the Palestinians is clear.
 
Why is today's Germany, which acknowledges the horror of its ancestors, a "normal" country while Pakistan, which never acknowledges any wicked deed, in deep doo-doo? You don't see connections and parallels?

Didn't you quite this forum couple week ago. :undecided:


German's can bow, bend or what ever in their wish list for deed of Hitler. Why Pakistan or any Islamic country should recognize the wrong deed of Hitler when Jews are doing same thing to Muslim of Pelistin.

Jews were given shelter by then Pelistini to save them from the wrath of Romans and eastern European yet Jews done the unthinkable to people who has given them a place to live. Back stabbing at it best. Traitors at bibliographic proportion.

Jews cry over Holocaust that took century ago yet same Jews commuting mini version of same holocaust on innocent people of today's Pelistin. Jews should not cry if a Pelistini cut their neck when ever possible because Pelistini has absolute right to take revenge on aggressive force.

Look at the map bellow and shut up.

 
Mad Dog’ Diplomacy

A cornered Israel is baring its teeth

By Jonathan Cook in Nazareth, June 04, 2010


Moshe Dayan, Israel’s most celebrated general, famously outlined the strategy he believed would keep Israel’s enemies at bay: “Israel must be a like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.”

Until now, most observers had assumed Dayan was referring to Israeli military or possibly nuclear strategy, an expression in his typically blunt fashion of the country’s familiar doctrine of deterrence.

But the Israeli commando attack on Monday on the Gaza-bound flotilla, in which nine activists have so far been confirmed killed and dozens were wounded as they tried to break Israel’s blockade of the enclave, proves beyond doubt that this is now a diplomatic strategy too. Israel is feeling cornered on every front it considers important – and like Dayan’s “mad dog”, it is likely to strike out in unpredictable ways.


Domestically, Israeli human rights activists have regrouped after the Zionist left’s dissolution in the wake of the outbreak of the second intfada. Now they are presenting clear-eyed – and extremely ugly – assessments of the occupation that are grabbing headlines around the world.

That move has been supported by the leadership of Israel’s large Palestinian minority, which has additionally started questioning the legitimacy of a Jewish state in ways that would have been unthinkable only a few years ago.

Regionally, Hizbullah has progressively eroded Israel’s deterrence doctrine. It forced the Israeli army to exit south Lebanon in 2000 after a two-decade occupation; it stood firm in the face of both aerial bombardment and a ground invasion during the 2006 war; and now it is reported to have accumulated an even larger arsenal of rockets than it had four years ago.

Iran, too, has refused to be intimidated and is leaving Israel with an uncomfortable choice between conceding to Tehran the room to develop a nuclear bomb, thereby ending Israel’s regional nuclear monopoly, and launching an attack that could unleash a global conflagration.

And internationally, nearly 18 months on from its attack on Gaza, Israel’s standing is at an all-time low. Boycott campaigns are gaining traction, reluctant support for Israel from European governments has set them in opposition to home-grown sentiment, and even traditional allies such as Turkey cannot hide their anger.

In the US, Israel’s most resolute ally, young American Jews are starting to question their unthinking loyalty to the Jewish state. Blogs and new kinds of Jewish groups are bypassing their elders and the American media to widen the scope of debate about Israel.

Israel has responded by characterising these “threats” all as falling within its ever-expanding definition of “support for terrorism”.

It was therefore hardly suprising that the first reaction from the Israeli government to the fact that its commandoes had opened fire on civilians in the flotilla of aid ships was to accuse the solidarity activists of being armed.

Similarly, Danny Ayalon, the deputy foreign minister, accused the organisers of having “connections to international terrorism”, including al-Qaeda. Turkey, which assisted the flotilla, is widely being accused in Israel of supporting Hamas and trying to topple Benjamin Netanyahu’s government.

Palestinians are familiar with such tactics. Gaza’s entire population of 1.5 million is now regularly presented in the Israeli media in collective terms, as supporters of terror – for having voted in Hamas – and therefore legitimate targets for Israeli “retaliation”. Even the largely docile Palestinian Authority in the West Bank has rapidly been tarred with the same brush for its belated campaign to boycott the settlements and their products.


The leaders of Israel’s Palestinian citizens too are being cast in the role of abettors of terror. The minority is still reeling from the latest assault: the arrest and torture of two community leaders charged with spying for Hizbullah. In its wake, new laws are being drafted to require that Palestinian citizens prove their “loyalty” or have their citizenship revoked.

When false rumours briefly circulated on Monday that Sheikh Raed Salah, a leader of Israel’s Islamic Movement who was in the flotilla, had been gravely wounded, Israeli officials offered a depressingly predictable, and unfounded, response: commandoes had shot him after they came under fire from his cabin.

Israel’s Jewish human rights community is also under attack to a degree never before seen. Their leaders are now presented as traitors, and new legislation is designed to make their work much harder.

The few brave souls in the Israeli media who try to hold the system to account have been given a warning shot with the exile of Haaretz’s investigative journalist Uri Blau, who is threatened with trial on spying charges if he returns.


Finally, Israel’s treatment of those onboard the flotilla has demonstrated that the net against human rights activism is being cast much wider, to encompass the international community.

Foreigners, even high-profile figures such as Noam Chomsky, are now routinely refused entry to Israel and the occupied territories. Many foreign human rights workers face severe restrictions on their movement and efforts to deport them or ban their organisations. The Israeli government is agreed that Europe should be banned from “interfering” in the region by supporting local human rights organisations.

The epitome of this process was Israel’s reception of the UN report last year into the attack on Gaza by Richard Goldstone, a respected judge and international law expert who suggested Israel had committed many war crimes during its three-week operation. Goldstone has faced savage personal attacks ever since.

But more significantly, Israel’s supporters have characterised the Goldstone report and the related legal campaigns against Israel as examples of “lawfare”, implying that those who uphold international law are waging a new kind of war of attrition on behalf of terror groups like Hamas and Hizbullah.

These trends are likely only to deepen in the coming months and years, making Israel an ever greater paraiah in the eyes of much of the world. The mad dog is baring his teeth, and it is high time the international community decided how to deal with him.

Jonathan Cook is a writer and journalist based in Nazareth, Israel. His latest books are “Israel and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the Plan to Remake the Middle East” (Pluto Press) and “Disappearing Palestine: Israel's Experiments in Human Despair” (Zed Books). His website is Jonathan Cook's News Archive - Israel Palestine.
 
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