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Grateful for shift in India’s position, says Israel envoy

Suhasini Haidar 31 DECEMBER 2016 23:22 IST
UPDATED: 31 DECEMBER 2016 23:22 IST

He was referring to India’s decision to abstain from resolutions critical of Israel at the UN, UNHRC and UNESCO.



NEW DELHI. Israel is grateful for the “changes and the shifts” in the Indian position at UN bodies in the past two years, says Israel’s Ambassador Daniel Carmon.

Referring to India’s decision to abstain from resolutions critical of Israel at the UN, the UN Human Rights Council and UNESCO, Mr. Carmon said that the shift in India’s position has been visible more recently.

“We have appreciated very much the changes and the shifts in position [by India] on some resolutions in New York, Geneva and Paris (UNESCO). It is a measured change, compared to the past, and we hope that this change will continue,” the Ambassador told The Hindu in an exclusive interview. However, he said that the votes so far are not a “trend” and the shift, which India denies, should not be “over-exaggerated.”

“In the last couple of years we have seen a shift in various votes (by India) which reflects the present improvement in relations. I would not over exaggerate this as a trend, each side has their declared positions and it is not a zero sum game. India says they are committed to the Palestinian cause, to the Arab cause, and they have good relations with Israel that they intend to pursue. We appreciate this stand, and at the UN, we can see it too,” Mr. Carmon added.

Mr. Carmon was speaking in the context of the current controversy over the United Nations Security Council resolution 2334 that has pitted the Obama administration against the Israeli government over the issue of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israel has responded sharply to the 14 countries that voted for the resolution and the US that refused to veto it.

The Ambassador’s words are significant as they come in contrast to the Ministry of External Affair’s position that there has been no shift in support to Palestine. Traditionally, India has stood unequivocally with the Palestinian cause, voting in favour of all resolutions critical of Israel. However in July 2015, India abstained on a vote against Israel at the UN Human Rights Council, marking what seemed like a big shift in policy, especially as it followed a phone call from Israeli PM Netanyahu to PM Modi ahead of the vote. India repeated the abstention in 2016, but explained that it was due to a reference to the International Criminal Court, which India doesn’t recognise.

In August 2016, India supported Israeli Ambassador Danny Dannon for the first time to become Chair of the UN Legal Committee, a vote opposed by all Arab countries.

And in October 2016, India changed its vote at the UNESCO in Paris to an abstention, on a resolution criticising Israel for encroachments at the Western Wall and near the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

“In that case I would like to appreciate India’s abstention when something so blatant was placed at the UNESCO. If you take the UNESCO resolution and now the UNSC resolution that seeks to impose a solution on us, you ignore that there are two sides to this conflict. So we are grateful to India for not voting against us,” Mr. Carmon said, adding that the votes amounted to an “internationalisation” of issues that need to be resolved bilaterally with the Palestinian authority.

When asked about the comments, a government official said that India’s votes on Israel and Palestine had been “very balanced”. “We vote for Palestine but also for Israel on some of their initiatives at the UN,” the official added pointing to about 20 plus votes in the past two year, where India has not voted “against Palestinians”.

Since it came to power in 2014, the Modi government has consistently promised better ties with Israel, which it considers an ally on counter-terrorism and defence cooperation. In 2015 and 2016, Presidents Mukherjee and Israeli 2017, the year that marks 25 years since India and Israel established full diplomatic relations; PM Modi is expected to visit Israel, which would make him the first Indian PM to do so.

While he didn’t confirm a date for the visit, the Israeli Ambassador told The Hindu it is expected in the coming year. “In the last 2 years we have seen some very 'visible visits', more than a dozen ministerial exchanges, which have seen many important agreements being signed and implemented. It was hinted that the 2017 will be a year of “high level” visits, and we do look forward to the visit (of PM Modi) to Israel,” he said.

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Why does a nation of 1.2 billion plus (India), need the approval,support and encouragement of a flimsy State of less than ten million(Israel) in the Middle East, I wonder? Are Indians that insecure about who or what they are? I see this a lot from Indians, they almost salivate over Israel. Guys, Israel is minute compared to India, yet you are desperate to find some overlap with them. Why? It's actually pathetic don't you think? (rhetorical question, no need to give stupid answers).
 
Why does a nation of 1.2 billion plus (India), need the approval,support and encouragement of a flimsy State of less than ten million(Israel) in the Middle East, I wonder? Are Indians that insecure about who or what they are? I see this a lot from Indians, they almost salivate over Israel. Guys, Israel is minute compared to India, yet you are desperate to find some overlap with them. Why? It;s actually pathetic don't you think? (rhetorical question, no need to give stupid answers).

We WERE insecure that we might offend a big grouping of people. Now we are confident hence we abstained.

What do we get by supporting any side? Does the IOC stop criticising us while bombing civilians in Yemen? Did Pakistan use their veto (wink) and refuse to sell offensive weaponry to Myanmar (rhetorical question no need to give stupid answers).
 
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We should abstain. We have no horse here.
We're not in the SC.

An abstention is a pro Israel move.

Pro Israel is a good stance, we must support them vs a violent hateful ideology, the same one that wants to consume us whole too.

I want Bibi chief guest for republic day, mostly for just sticking it to the left/commies/islamists in our midst. :butcher:
 
Pro Israel is a good stance, we must support them vs a violent hateful ideology, the same one that wants to consume us whole too.

So not only are the Palestinians now monsters, but now they also want to destroy India! Unless your talking about Islam, which if you are, makes no sense as you have almost as many Muslims as we do.
 
So not only are the Palestinians now monsters, but now they also want to destroy India! Unless your talking about Islam, which if you are, makes no sense as you have almost as many Muslims as we do.
The radical violent expansionist ideology that drives "the Palestinians" to launch rockets at Israeli civvies is the same ideology that drives the Burhan Wanis of the world.

Our problem is specific to the valley, Indian muslims in the rest of the country don't care for and don't support the Kashmir jihad.
 
The radical violent expansionist ideology that drives "the Palestinians" to launch rockets at Israeli civvies is the same ideology that drives the Burhan Wanis of the world.

Our problem is specific to the valley, Indian muslims in the rest of the country don't care for and don't support the Kashmir jihad.

Oh yes, it's so evil to want to drive out a force that rapes, kills and occupies your land. So evil! Your morals are a joke.

And you will be very surprised to find out what Indian Muslims think. Spoiler alert: They want to wipe out Israel too and support the Kashmir Jihad(even if they don't admit it).
 
We should abstain. We have no horse here. There are many disputes globally and all countries only get involved where their direct interests matter or to please their superior papa. We should stay out unless our interests are threatened.

Have you heard the words:

Morality
Values
Ethics
Humanity
 
Oh yes, it's so evil to want to drive out a force that rapes, kills and occupies your land. So evil! Your morals are a joke.

And you will be very surprised to find out what Indian Muslims think. Spoiler alert: They want to wipe out Israel too and support the Kashmir Jihad(even if they don't admit it).

So you are suggesting we SHOULD support Israel, and I was suggesting we should abstain.

Self goal.

Have you heard the words:

Morality
Values
Ethics
Humanity

Have YOU heard the words

Rohingya
Jf17
Morality
Values
Ethics
Humanity
Uighurs
Tibetans
Thousands of dead roadside Baluchis
Tens of thousands of dead Yemenis
Tens of thousands of dead Syrians
Kurds accusing Turks of rights violations?
Reprisal market destructions in KP
Sardar Shahid Arif?
 
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Have YOU heard the words

Rohingya
Jf17
Morality
Values
Ethics
Humanity?

JF-17 was meant to be delivered to myanmar in 2016 but you didnt heard anything even about the signing of the contract...

Have you heard the words:

Morality
Values
Ethics
Humanity

these are precious things dont expect from cheap people.. warren buffet.
 
We WERE insecure that we might offend a big grouping of people. Now we are confident hence we abstained.

What do we get by supporting any side? Does the IOC stop criticising us while bombing civilians in Yemen? Did Pakistan use their veto (wink) and refuse to sell offensive weaponry to Myanmar (rhetorical question no need to give stupid answers).


What? Did you say something? All I asked is why does a Nation of 1.2 billion plus need the affirmation and vindication of a Jewish State of less than 10 million? On top of that , Israel is a State founded on an Abrahamic religion. Now that is quite a contrast to the Dharmic faiths, isnt it? Why the Indian bonhomie with Israel? Chalk and Cheese?

Love and support for Israel. :tup:


A Nation of 1.3 billion enamoured by a State of fewer than 10 million? So ten million Abrahamics are better rhan 1.2 billion Dharmics? LOL! I get it. Abrahamic religions make more sense, no? Or are you saying that Judaism is cack?
 
Why does a nation of 1.2 billion plus (India), need the approval,support and encouragement of a flimsy State of less than ten million(Israel) in the Middle East, I wonder? Are Indians that insecure about who or what they are? I see this a lot from Indians, they almost salivate over Israel. Guys, Israel is minute compared to India, yet you are desperate to find some overlap with them. Why? It's actually pathetic don't you think? (rhetorical question, no need to give stupid answers).

What does India gain by supporting Palestinian issue
 

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