Israel bans Norwegian doctor from Gaza for life

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Oh boy. The sold out desi farangi comes to the rescue of his masters. He is a doctor and was helping victims of Israeli aggression. I don't care about politics, he is allowed to have political views. Or are there double standards when it comes to Israel?

Have you seen a guy who lived all in life in Pak.. Born,Raised and educated here.. Move to usa and suck up to the west and Israel ? Even if they are against his own country? I've even seen this guy mock our fallen soldiers.. Utterly pathetic character..

 

[-SINAN-]

@Sinan @xenon54 @rmi5 @T-123456 @asena_great @atatwolf I dont read Turkish what is this guy trying to say?

I think, he's basically saying Palestinians are traitors... as well as other Arab countries.

The pic he posted.. says. Palestinian flag has been prepared by British. It was originally designed to symbolize Arab nationalism which has been used to uprise against Ottoman Empire.

 

[Norwegian]

Yes, that's correct. For instance while Arabic is a official language in Israel alongside Hebrew it's interesting that Islam is not a official religion alongside Judaism. Despite almost 20% of all Israelis being Muslim. It's a clear political move.

Its because Israel is a secular state without any state-religion. Its Jewish and democratic in nature:
Jewish and democratic state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Spy Master]

Because it is Administered by Israel. Just like Kashmir may not be part of any country, but India Can't decide who will enter Muzaffarabad or Pakistan can not decide who will enter Srinagar. This is just an analogy.

Palestine is recognized by some countries as a Sovereign State and it is while Kashmir is not...

 

[Pride]

On Original Point, I totally agree with @Syed.Ali.Haider . You are a doctor and you are suppose to do your Humanitarian work and not make political statements unless you are authorized to do so. Remember always, It is always a privilege by a country to allow you to enter in their administered area and if you are fuming them then that privilege will be gone irrespective of how correct you are.

 

[Pride]

Palestine is recognized by some countries as a Sovereign State and it is while Kashmir is not...

"Some" countries are "perspectives". The countries' having control can take "Action".

 

[al-Hasani]

A major dispute in Israeli immigration policy is whether those with only a Jewish father and not a mother should be accepted. Orthodox Jews don't accept them as Jewish but Reform ones do. Also, many Orthodox Jews would accept even somebody who has converted to a different religion as long as they have Jewish blood on the maternal line but Israel currently forbids this.

Yes, but the Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel "only" make up 20% of the population. Nowadays any person that has paternal Jewish ancestry can become a Israeli citizen.

Yes, in fact those Ultra-Orthodox Jews were claiming that some of us Hijazis and dozens of other Arabs were basically Jews converted to Islam and they tried to spread that idea. In fact they were traveling across the West Bank and Negev Desert spreading the word to the local Arab clans, tribes and families to make it funnier. Even if some of us Arabs have Jewish blood then it does not matter as all of us people native to the ME (especially Semites) have intermarried since time immortal.

Mads Gilbert has openly leftist-leanings. He is part of many leftist organisations here in Norway. It is one of the main reasons why he never criticizes Hamas terrorism but blames Israel all the time.

Since Gaza is under years long blockade by Israel and Gaza, due to Hamas terrorism, there are only two ways to enter Gaza; via Israel or Egypt. If Israel has banned him entry on security grounds, he can always enter via Egypt. Who is stopping him but usual Israel-bashing?

Yes, he has that. I am politically against leftists but it's not a crime to be that. He does not support Hamas but believes that they are not a terrorist organization but a resistance movement. He says that in the interview too that I posted.

The point is that this news is not about Egypt. It's about Israel and their strange decision to ban a doctor that is doing humanitarian work (he is not assisting Hamas or any other organization that is fighting against Israel) from entering Gaza through Israel (as he used to) due to his rightly criticism. Is that how a supposed democracy is supposed to behave? The beacon of democracy in the MENA region?

I think, he's basically saying Palestinians are traitors... as well as other Arab countries.

The pic he posted.. says. Palestinian flag has been prepared by British. It was originally designed to symbolize Arab nationalism which has been used to uprise against Ottoman Empire.

Nonsense post then. Palestinians don't owe anything to anybody and I struggle to see what that has to do with the topic discussed. Besides the colors of the Palestinian flag are based on the Arab Muslim Rashidun, Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates.

 

[rmi5]

I think, he's basically saying Palestinians are traitors... as well as other Arab countries.

The pic he posted.. says. Palestinian flag has been prepared by British. It was originally designed to symbolize Arab nationalism which has been used to uprise against Ottoman Empire.

@Akheilos Yup, I think @Sinan mentioned what he meant, which is true in my opinion as well.

 

[rmi5]

@al-Hasani
It does not have to do with topic as you said, but Palestinians do owe big to arab and muslim countries, for the money, weapons, ... they pour into their lives.

 

[Norwegian]

The point is that this news is not about Egypt. It's about Israel and their strange decision to ban a doctor that is doing humanitarian work (he is not assisting Hamas or any other organization that is fighting against Israel) from entering Gaza through Israel (as he used to) due to his rightly criticism. Is that how a supposed democracy is supposed to behave? The beacon of democracy in the MENA region?

All local Norwegians are criticizing this decision as well and hopefully with enough pressure exerted on Israel, would eventually overturn this decision. Lets hear what Israelis of PDF have to say about this:
@Archdemon
@Natan
@500
@MarkovChain
@LeveragedBuyout

 

[al-Hasani]

@al-Hasani
It does not have to do with topic as you said, but Palestinians do owe big to arab and muslim countries, for the money, weapons, ... they pour into their lives.

True but why use events that took place 100 years ago where no Palestine even existed as a argument in this topic? It has nothing to do with the topic discussed and is a cheap move. Nobody cares if that individual cares about Palestine or not. He should not derail the thread.

I don't give a crap about Hamas or Fatah. What I care about is for Palestine to become a sovereign nation and for peace to prevail. I want to take a flight from Jeddah to Jerusalem for instance. The Palestinian people have suffered enough. Most Palestinians have no say in what their leadership is doing or have done. It's a few people deciding the faith of several million people.

If people have problem with Hazzy997 (I don't agree with him politically either nor do I understand why he likes the MB so much) here then wage the anger at him. The millions of other Palestinians have nothing to do with his actions here on PDF. We represent ourselves.

 

[Spy Master]

"Some" countries are "perspectives". The countries' having control can take "Action".

Yeah the countries heaving "Control by force".... which is wrong...! Deep down in your heart you know its wrong but you will never accept it ....

 

[-SINAN-]

Nonsense post then. Palestinians don't owe anything to anybody and I struggle to see what that has to do with the topic discussed. Besides the colors of the Palestinian flag are based on the Arab Muslim Rashidun, Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates.

Talk with Musti.... i have zero interest for another Arab vs Turk discussion.

 

[Norwegian]

Most Palestinians have no say in what their leadership is doing or have done. It's a few people deciding the faith of several million people.

So you finally admit that real problem is corrupt Palestinian leadership and not Israel? Thanks!

 

[al-Hasani]

Talk with Musti.... i have zero interest for another Arab vs Turk discussion.

Nor do I but that individual should stop derailing this thread with nonsense. We actually had a rather interesting discussion.

So you finally admit that real problem is corrupt Palestinian leadership and not Israel? Thanks!

I have not admitted anything and I am not looking at such a complicated matter as black and white as you are doing. The problem lies among both people (although I believe that most people want to live in peace like most people in this world) and their leaderships and I have criticized them openly many times. The Jewish users and Hazzy know this very well.