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Caanan couldnt put it better myself, muslims are sanctioned by god to be one

When this ummah finally unites israel and its hindu lackys will realise in history civilisatiins have ups and downs they cant beat ys when were down, when we get back up were gonna leave them spinning in there graves
 
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I agree, we are doing this because we are poor muslims with more concern for race, nation, greed etc then deen or god

When that changes our fortunes will change
 
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Muslims are not helping each other, they are helping the West and Israel against Muslims. Sad, but true. When it comes to talking though...

Aryan-B and others who has been relentlessly ranting and bashing Arabs and Saudis in specific. Those have never been on Muslims side. By this thread, they proved that we are the right ones. I don't care who would recognize Israel. They took advantage of Israel enmity just like Iran to trash true Muslims. Now this is so over Iran-B, you have been exposed to all.
 
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It's quite simple: All muslims regardless of their political ideology, nationality (goddamn nationalism), geographic location, and race shall assist in any way possible other muslims who are persecuted and in need of help. An arab i.e. is obliged by God to assist a pakistani and vice versa, politically they are not unless they have agreed to this.

From an islamic point of view no moslem is allowed to normalize with someone who occupies a muslim people. This can't be changed, period. Not by politics or anything else. Hence, neither arabs nor pakistan shall recognize the israeli colonial entity, nor shall they normalize relations with india as long as they occupy kashmir.

Canaan, welcome back Sir.

Please could you advise or give us your opinion in that case what is the duty from an Islamic point of view of the public if the leaders of a Muslim country take it upon themselves to recognise the colonial entity or be complicit with it??

Should the people whose govts are complicit with the Zionist entity still praise and defend their leaderships? Because that is what all the Sauds and Jordanian on the forum do.

I have in the past been attacked viciously and called a racist by these same members for calling their leaders imbeciles and traitors

I also could not help but notice that you commented on the behaviour of a Pakistani but chose not to mention the behaviour evident on this thread of Arabs on here who have managed to alienate and convince one person who was pro Palestinian to be pro Zionist and others to actually question our support of Arabs and or Palestinians. IMO a great disservice to the Palestinian cause

I say this as someone who in the past has been virulently anti Zionist and who has put up threads here comparing Zionism Nazism and Hindutva and finding common ground in them.

You will also notice in contrast to Arabs comments from Israelis on here on this thread that they come over as rational and logic and who will without insulting without demanding without making abusive ad hominem attacks have made some what appear to be valid points.

Aryan-B and others who has been relentlessly ranting and bashing Arabs and Saudis in specific. Those have never been on Muslims side. By this thread, they proved that we are the right ones. I don't care who would recognize Israel. They took advantage of Israel enmity just like Iran to trash true Muslims. Now this is so over Iran-B, you have been exposed to all.


Explain your rational?? This is what I mean by your relentless trashing of anyone who is not in agreement with your vision.

I see no merit in what you say nor do I think you add any gravitas to any side in the debate here.

You 2 and the Jew are in CONTROL :D

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Is this your way of winning hearts and minds to Arabs and the Palestinian cause? Your mind set suggests you will by force or here by way of insults cower us into accepting your argument which for the avoidance of doubt seems somewhat unstated and unclear ??
 
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Canaan, welcome back Sir.

Please could you advise or give us your opinion in that case what is the duty from an Islamic point of view of the public if the leaders of a Muslim country take it upon themselves to recognise the colonial entity or be complicit with it??

Should the people whose govts are complicit with the Zionist entity still praise and defend their leaderships? Because that is what all the Sauds and Jordanian on the forum do.

I have in the past been attacked viciously and called a racist by these same members for calling their leaders imbeciles and traitors

I also could not help but notice that you commented on the behaviour of a Pakistani but chose not to mention the behaviour evident on this thread of Arabs on here who have managed to alienate and convince one person who was pro Palestinian to be pro Zionist and others to actually question our support of Arabs and or Palestinians. IMO a great disservice to the Palestinian cause

I say this as someone who in the past has been virulently anti Zionist and who has put up threads here comparing Zionism Nazism and Hindutva and finding common ground in them.

You will also notice in contrast to Arabs comments from Israelis on here on this thread that they come over as rational and logic and who will without insulting without demanding without making abusive ad hominem attacks have made some what appear to be valid points.

1) No you've been called a 'racist' because of using terms like 'A-rabs' and what not ! In more than a single correspondence of mine with either Mosa or BlackEagle, I've voiced my displeasure with the Arab Leaders in general and the Royal Families in particular and not once have I been attacked 'visciously' - God knows what that even means !

2) If the actions of Governments, many of whom have been upturned by the same 'People', are taken as reflective of where the 'People' stand with respect to Israel, then you're doing a disservice to the whole 'Palestine-Israel' conflict in terms of understanding where the common Arab stands.

3) Convincing that one person is as fitting a barometer of the Arab contribution to the Palestinian cause, as my rubber ducky is !

4) 'Logic and Rationality' are, apparently, relative because I'm still pressed for evidence to suggest that the 'Saudis are in bed with the Israelis' or that the 'Saudis are funding terrorism world-wide'.
 
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Everyone do not try to reason with these people. They have shown time and again that they are driven by sectarianism and thus there is no use arguing with them.
 
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No Muslim country should ever recognize Israel unless they fully implement the 2 state solution and allow the establishment of the state of Palestine WITHOUT all of their restrictions with Al Quds as the capital. Muslims on this forum need to stop bickering with on another. The states that have established diplomatic ties with Israel have done it for their own benefit so it is okay however honestly there is NO Pakistani leader who could accept the existence of Israel without having the mob calling for his head. The cons outweigh the pros in the case of Pakistan.

PS- How come the Israeli flag is represented on PDF but for Palestine it says Palestinian territory. Go figure :disagree:
 
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1) No you've been called a 'racist' because of using terms like 'A-rabs' and what not ! In more than a single correspondence of mine with either Mosa or BlackEagle, I've voiced my displeasure with the Arab Leaders in general and the Royal Families in particular and not once have I been attacked 'visciously' - God knows what that even means !

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Only on occasion have I called someone A-Rab. That was in response to being called Aran or Iran B and that was earlier at frustration at being called similar

2) If the actions of Governments, many of whom have been upturned by the same 'People', are taken as reflective of where the 'People' stand with respect to Israel, then you're doing a disservice to the whole 'Palestine-Israel' conflict in terms of understanding where the common Arab stands.

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Not at all these Sauds and Jordanians come on here and on numerous occasions celebrated and are appreciative of their treacherous leaders

3) Convincing that one person is as fitting a barometer of the Arab contribution to the Palestinian cause, as my rubber ducky is !

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Ok ignore that person. What about me I have up until this thread have put up numerous threads which are supportive of the Palestinian cause and have been anti Zionist. That can not be questioned and is on record for the last 12 months.
 
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Canaan, welcome back Sir.

Please could you advise or give us your opinion in that case what is the duty from an Islamic point of view of the public if the leaders of a Muslim country take it upon themselves to recognise the colonial entity or be complicit with it??

Should the people whose govts are complicit with the Zionist entity still praise and defend their leaderships? Because that is what all the Sauds and Jordanian on the forum do.

I have in the past been attacked viciously and called a racist by these same members for calling their leaders imbeciles and traitors

I also could not help but notice that you commented on the behaviour of a Pakistani but chose not to mention the behaviour evident on this thread of Arabs on here who have managed to alienate and convince one person who was pro Palestinian to be pro Zionist and others to actually question our support of Arabs and or Palestinians. IMO a great disservice to the Palestinian cause

I say this as someone who in the past has been virulently anti Zionist and who has put up threads here comparing Zionism Nazism and Hindutva and finding common ground in them.

You will also notice in contrast to Arabs comments from Israelis on here on this thread that they come over as rational and logic and who will without insulting without demanding without making abusive ad hominem attacks have made some what appear to be valid points.




Explain your rational?? This is what I mean by your relentless trashing of anyone who is not in agreement with your vision.

I see no merit in what you say nor do I think you add any gravitas to any side in the debate here.



Is this your way of winning hearts and minds to Arabs and the Palestinian cause? Your mind set suggests you will by force or here by way of insults cower us into accepting your argument which for the avoidance of doubt seems somewhat unstated and unclear ??

Canaan plz, don't listen to me and just check his posts history to see his racist rants toward Arabs and Muslims (and to be precise "Sunni").
 
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4) 'Logic and Rationality' are, apparently, relative because I'm still pressed for evidence to suggest that the 'Saudis are in bed with the Israelis' or that the 'Saudis are funding terrorism world-wide'.

I think it is clear the Saudis are in bed with Americans that is beyond doubt. AIPAC controls American foreign policy. Tel Aviv dictates to AIPAC. Please join up the dots
 
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Lets be realistic

Any pakistani leader to suggest alliance with israel would be crucified

Our people simply wouldnt accept it or tolerate it, it us a total waste of time to discuss this issue
 
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