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ISPs, PTA at odds over procedure to contain ‘indecent’ content

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ISLAMABAD: A meeting between the Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA) ended in a deadlock on Wednesday as both sides remained at odds over procedures to contain ‘indecent content’ on the internet.

The ISPs claimed that the PTA wanted to regulate political voices in the garb of containing indecent content, alleging that actions against the Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) would only translate in converting the broadband into a narrow band in the country.

The telecom regulator, however, had called the meeting in its headquarters with a single point agenda that “pornographic websites are being served/accessed through CDNs interfaced locally with your network”.

The PTA told the ISPs that pornographic contents were violation of Section 37 of the PECA 2016 and that internet providers had also been informed about its concerns, but there was no improvement in the situation.

There are four key CDN providers in Pakistan — ‘YouTube’, ‘Facebook’, ‘Akamai’ and Netflix. They are established at the servers of local ISPs which includes PTCL, StormFiber, Nayatel, Wi-Tribe etc and telecom companies, including Jazz, Telenor, Zong and Ufone.

While YouTube, Facebook and Netflix show their contents through their own CDNs, Akamai is the third party contractor for many international content providers, including some foreign media houses.

Though neither the PTA nor representatives of the ISPs were willing to talk on record about the meeting, officials said that it was responsibility of the ISPs to ensure that no pornographic/immoral/illegal content is being shown to users through CDNs.

“The ISPs are the gateway to Pakistan and they needed to pressurise their partners to manage illegal contents, especially immoral subjects,” the officials said. They even cited the example of sectarian and hate based trends at Twitter in recent days.

“How Twitter allowed to create this kind of # and gain so much traction,” the official said. “How such trends are allowed and pick up so much traction. These dangerous trends have potential to create serious internal strife that is why there is a need to keep a regulatory check at CDNs too.”

Pakistan has currently around 3,000 Gbps of internet traffic and the CDNs in Pakistan serve an equal amount of traffic to Pakistani internet users.

Sources in the industry said that the ISPs downplayed the PTAs demand and expressed their inability to regulate the contents of CDNs.

“CDNs are controlled by foreign content providers and ISPs have no control over it,” said a representative of the ISP, adding, “PTA should get the filtration done by its own costly Web Monitoring System (WMS) and enhance its capacity”.

Meanwhile, during the meeting the delegation of ISPs told the PTA that by shutting CDNs would mean shutting down 60 per cent of Internet in Pakistan and making cost of internet 2-3 times of current rates.

“Besides, the PTA has to understand that immoral contents are not shown at any of the key CDNs in the country, so they need to identify the issue clearly,” said a senior executive of an ISP.

While referring to the PECA 2016, the PTA has asked the ISPs to ensure that no immoral content passes through their network.

Published in Dawn, September 3rd, 2020
 
Pakistan is heading towards same censorships levels of China, these PTA chairmen and members need to be hanged because instead of going for the main issues with internet like the digital divide, they are trying to shut down internet in Pakistan and make it a full fledge dictatorship.

This ban culture needs to be rid of, all pornographic websites must be allowed and apps like Tinder, Grindr need to be unbaned. If ban culture continues, no foreign company will open their services in Pakistan. It will set a really bad precedent to the outside world. These CSS boomers sitting in offices and making stupid decisions like these should be ashamed of themselves.
 
One great comment on the website:

"While referring to the PECA 2016, the PTA has asked the ISPs to ensure that no immoral content passes through their network."

This is the most absurd statement. This is like asking the National Highway Authority to ensure that no criminals are in a vehicle on their highways. It is like asking NHA to deploy motorway police to check each vehicle to ensure that the driver is licensed and each occupant is background checked before allowing the vehicle to proceed. It will bring traffic to a halt.
 
This is what old people are generally like in pakistan. Dictators from home to top level government offices ban ban ban ban
they were never able to enjoy their life so they envy us
 
i dont know why no censorship on religious stuff? they are free to say whatever they want
Exactly, sectarianism is on the rise. But i guess the thing is, theres immoral content everywhere (in view of muslims) on facebook, youtube, twitter. If you are banning pornographic apps/pubg/tinder for being immoral then ban all other social medias app too. Don't be hypocritical. They won't ban the main apps because they know boys in black vigos will be after them if they do. So ffs they really need to stop morally policing the internet. Stop banning and educate your public instead which is the main way.
 
Response to separatists is to hit Mumbai and Kabul or take out traitors and sellouts, not to take teenagers' **** away from them. They will take their desires out in real life instead of to pixels (arguably better because IRL doesn't give you a whole list of mental disorders and erectile dysfunction). (but i don't think pta is smart enough to come to any conclusion other than ban)
 
PTA now has deep packet inspection system, i dont what kind of information they can access about our internet usage
they can direct us to download fake softwares with bloatware and what not same systems used by turkey was documented directing traffic to malware and bloatware software instead of downloading from real websites.
 
Response to separatists is to hit Mumbai and Kabul or take out traitors and sellouts, not to take teenagers' **** away from them. They will take their desires out in real life instead of to pixels (arguably better because IRL doesn't give you a whole list of mental disorders and erectile dysfunction). (but i don't think pta is smart enough to come to any conclusion other than ban)
Can't agree more. Honestly there comes a certain time in your teenage where you are horny af. It is natural, nothing is wrong with you. What you do? Go take out your desires in real life or fulfil your needs watching adult content? I would rather have them watch adult content instead of the rape culture of India (Where **** is banned too).

And wow, whats up with PDF mods? Are you guys 12 years old that you have word p_orn banned? Grow up.
 
How Twitter allowed to create this kind of # and gain so much traction,” the official said. “How such trends are allowed and pick up so much traction. These dangerous trends have potential to create serious internal strife that is why there is a need to keep a regulatory check at CDNs too.”
hahahhaa i created thread about these trends on twitter but on:pdf:it was dissmissed saying it is paid trend from foreigners
better control your mullahs who are preaching such stuff without any control
internet is just a mirror reflection of our society there is noting bad or good on internet You are the one who is bad or good you are the one who is accessing such content
 
“CDNs are controlled by foreign content providers and ISPs have no control over it,” said a representative of the ISP, adding, “PTA should get the filtration done by its own costly Web Monitoring System (WMS) and enhance its capacity”.
hahahhaha poor PTA dont have money to monitor all the traffic of Pakistan they bought system with less processing capacity hahaha that's why we get packet loss and what not during peak hours
and internet data demand is increasing day by day i dont know why they are going to do now
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