When i refer to "we" i mean those common muslims on the streets with Respect for other cultures and religions , people like myself.
My Friend it exists in every society , where ever you would go it will follow .
I understand what situations you are talking about but my whole point is regarding the Discrimination and illtreatment Muslims (Common) are facing on the streets on the Jobs etc and it Must End.
All EU Muslims are Europeans and they should be respected for who they are.
I dont Think any Muslims in EU would go against those EU values as long as they were Europeans themselves.
NONE of the cultures is to be sacrificed for Muslims and i never demanded it did it ?
I want a common understanding between EU Muslims and their other countrymates that they can enjoy Integrity and harmony and leave their lives well withour discriminating against each others.
French do wear Christian symbols moreover sikhs are allowed to wear a Turban in Franch Govt buldings etc.
As far the security risk is concerned it can be dealt with in a positive manner and with the will of EU Muslims - enforcement wont do any good.
It Indicates how Free practice of religion is done in Swiss society.
Most of the Muslim countries including Pakistan allow free worship and to Build new Churches and temples in whatever way they want.
If you are indicating towards Saudi arabia then i am sorry that is our "Holiest Land" and no other faith would be allowed in that Region specially Pagans.
I am sure you understand why did i say that , christians wont allow us Building a Mosque in Vetican City would they ?
King Abdullah was in talks with Pope to build a Curch in the North of the country but nothing has been done as yet.
These are the excuses normally given and what i believe is that there should be a solution which caters for both Security risks and Religious Freedom.
For minaret ban and women clothing, refer my response above.
Regarding men with beards, certain ethnicities are suspected on the grounds of past mistakes. Even European men and many of them sport full beards. Why this stereotype doesn't go along with them? And most European authorities here are instructed to be as polite even when checking a potential suspect until he is proven guilty. I don't see that happening so in your Asia, where even tourists are checked as though we are certainly carrying bombs around with us.[/QUOTE]
I dont know what you are reffering to but it wont happen in Pakistan (At least not during my stay) and if we do check them that is Truly for their own safety.
I was reffering to the Image that a person with a beard would have in EU and they get discriminated because of their looks no morethan that.
I have saw that myself.
It has happened to me and many of my friends who have been denied jobs or were not selected because they had a Muslim name .
I refer to a BBC report on Sweden which has the most neglected Islamic society & they are denied Jobs and services just because they have an Islamic name.
We are all suffering from terrorism and the damage done to Pakistan is far more worse than anyone else.
Islamophobia as term must not be generalized and if is being generalized on all EU's i would be against it !
Infact my whole idea is about the Image the Muslims have in the aftermath of 9/11 and they are facing mistreatment and discrimination just because of their Faith and it must be stopped.
They should be allowed to Practice their religion freely and in their own way , this is what makes a society better.
There should be a summit between Muslim leaders and Eu that they can decide and what ways can be found to take everything in consideration and find some solutions that would be acceptable to the society and to its Muslims too.
Regards:
Thanks for the positive response. Much appreciate it. I am merely talking about the law as laid out in written. There are many cases where Sikh children cannot wear their iron bracelets explicitly to show religious symbols in public offices.
As I said regarding Switzerland, everyone here is free to practise their religion BUT in compliance with Swiss national culture which is what the land's values are. The restrictions are more or less self-imposed as a mark of respect by immigrants and citizens of foreign faiths (including myself)
incase should it conflict with national values and culture.
While what you say if well meant, it is not exactly done with same intentions here in Europe. Community leaders take the advantage of our laws and misuse their minority status. This results in the law's very foundation being shaken which causes a slight bias in favour of that particular community (read here for example as muslim community). This causes discomfort to the local people who find a cultural invasion in their country all of a sudden and therefore causing violence which again makes these leaders hide behind the term "Islamophobia", worsening the situation and repeating the vicious cycle.
We have no issues with what you practise in your homes and even outside. However, publicly defying what is not common in the daily life will obviously create some ripples in the domestic population isn't it? For example, 3 years ago there was a case in Dubai which became popular in Europe. An American woman was caught walking along her house lane (which sides the famous beach and coastlines) in a two-piece bikini while the evening prayers were going on in some distant mosque. The woman has been used to this kind of attire in her homeland and therefore felt that she's not breaching anyone's privacy or hurting any sentiments. However, the police arrested her fined her, jailed her for two days and deported her.
Now tell me, isn't this discrimination compared to the anti-veil law in France, Belgium, Netherlands or the minaret ban in my country? The woman however scantily dressed, didn't enter a mosque or an Arab family's home and yet she underwent all the unpleasant processes. The veil laws specifically had been implemented and stressed after 9/11, since the extremely concealing attire of Muslim women can compromise identity, which is important if there is a potential threat. Hence it isn't very welcome in West. Also it doesn't go with European and American culture just as the woman's attire didn't go along well in Dubai.
Look what happened in Moscow metro system. In the above case, neither United Arab Emirates nor any of its surrounding countries suffer from even a small insurgency let alone blatant international terrorism. So what is your opinion about this? Please do reply.
About individual attacks, I whole-heartedly support you that racist attacks should be stopped.
