Islamic Republic of Pakistan - My Home, My Country

[HellzHere]

I have one question.
Are common Pakistanis ready to accommodate with other religions?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Nope. Your liberals only want "something like" Pakistan. The same thing your Quaid wanted.

Dnt use Quaids name in ur rants..... And we know wat we want...... a (minority) bunch of extreme liberals who dont mind their daughters ... some guy infront of them cant dictate us our future........... they can do watever but not force it upon us.

I have one question.
Are common Pakistanis ready to accommodate with other religions?

Yeah..... just a few days ago....... a mob in gujranwala filled an FIR under the blashphemy act..... the SHO investigated the incident found the accused not guilty and told the mob tht if they tried to hurt the guy......they would have to do it after killin him and the other cops.

 

[Xestan]

Thanks T-Faz.. as you can see from my post, i am against all this Islamisation of country without any defined Shariah Law, accepted by all sects.. Until then, i am suggesting to refrain from it..

There has been a general consensus between all the religious sects to implement Sharia'ah in Pakistan, 22 points were approved, there's NO problem with anyone if these 22 points are implemented.

You haven't done any research in this matter I guess, my Friends.

Here are the 22 points, you can get details from Tanzeem e Islami offices too..

Agreed 22 Points of Ulema-e-Pakistan to establish Islamic Shariah

Agreed 22 Points of Ulema-e-Pakistan to establish Islamic Shariah

The first attempt to establish Islamic Sharia in Pakistan was made by adopting the Objectives Resolution on March 12th, 1949. In the very next year, that is in 1950, thirty one (31) leading and eminent Ulema and scholars of various sects and schools of Islamic jurisprudence AGREED on 22 basic points for the country’s constitution.

Even today these 22 points can be used as a basis for establishing Shariah in the country. There are various proposals among these 22 points which can produce a just and pious society.

Twenty-Two Agreed Points for Islamic Constitution

(1) ALLAH (SWT) is the REAL Sovereign and Lord of this universe.

(2) The Law of the country shall be based on Quran and Sunnah and neither any law shall be enacted nor any Administrative injunction shall be laid down that is repugnant to Quran and Sunnah.

(3) This country shall not be based on any geographical, racial, linguistic or any other concepts but on those principles and aims which are based on the code of life laid down by Islam.

(4) It shall be the obligation of Islamic state to establish the goods defined by Quran and Sunnah, suppress the wrongs and arrange for the revival and supremacy of Islamic beliefs and for the necessary education of established Islamic sects according to their understandings of religion.

(5) It shall be the obligation of Islamic state to strengthen the unity and brotherhood among all the Muslims of the world. It shall get rid of all the means that may give rise to differences among the Muslim citizens of the state due to ignorant prejudices of racism, linguistics, regionalism or any other sort of discrimination and ensure the stability of unity among the Islamic community.

(6) State shall sponsor, without any religious, race or other discrimination, the basic needs such as food, clothing, shelter, health and education for all such people who cannot earn their livelihood or cannot do so temporarily due to unemployment, illness or other reasons.

(7) Citizens of the country shall enjoy all the rights laid down for them in Islamic Sharia. It means protection of life, property and dignity within the Law, freedom of religion and sect, freedom to worship, freedom of caste, freedom of expression, freedom to move, freedom to gather, freedom to earn livelihood, equal opportunity to progress and right to get benefits from social organizations.

(8) None of the above-mentioned rights of any citizen shall be suppressed at any time without any legitimate reason according to Islamic Law and none shall be punished for any accusation of crime without provision of an opportunity to defend and without a judicial decision.

(9) The established Islamic sects shall enjoy complete religious freedom within the prescribed boundaries and Law. They shall have the right to educate their followers on their religion. The decisions related to their personal affairs shall be made according to their religious jurisprudence and it shall be suitable to make an arrangement that their own judges make such decisions.

(10) The non-Muslim citizens of the state shall enjoy complete freedom, within the prescribed boundaries and Law, to practice their religion, worship, culture, religious education and they will have the right to get decisions on their personal affairs according to their religious law or traditions.

(11) It shall be mandatory to abide by the agreements made, with non-Muslim citizens of the state, within the boundaries of Sharia. Both the Muslim and non-Muslim citizens shall have equal civic rights as mentioned above in clause no. 7.

(12) It shall be mandatory for the President of the country to be a male Muslim whose trustworthiness, capability and decision-making enjoys the confidence of people or their elected representatives.

(13) The president of the state shall be actually responsible for administering the state. However he can delegate any part of his authority to a person or an organization.

(14) The government of the President shall not be autocratic but consultative. It implies that he shall execute his duties after consultation with the members of government and the elected representatives of the people.

(15) The President shall have no right to govern without the help of consultation after suspending the constitution partially or completely.

(16) The organization that shall elect the President shall also have the right to remove him with majority votes.

(17) The President of the state shall have the same civil rights as general Muslims and shall not be immune to impeachment.

(18) Same law shall be applied to the members and workers of the government and the citizens and the general courts shall implement it.

(19) The judiciary shall be separate and independent from the administration so that the judiciary does not get influenced by the administration in performing its duties.

(20) It shall be prohibited to preach or promote any of such thoughts and ideologies, which may be destructive to the basic principles of the Islamic state.

(21) The various provinces and parts of the country shall be considered the Administrative Units of one state. Their status shall not be racial, linguistic or tribal entities but shall be of administrative territories, which may be delegated administrative authorities under the central dominion keeping in view the administrative convenience but they shall not have right to disintegrate from the centre.

(22) Any interpretation of the Constitution that is against Quran and Sunnah shall not be valid.

Following is the list of Ulema who documented the 22 points dossier:

(1) Allama Sayyid Suleiman Nadwi (President, Majlis-e-Haza)

(2) Maulana Sayyid Abul A’la Maududi (Ameer, Jamate-e-Islami Pakistan)

(3) Maulana Shams-ul-Haq Afghani (Minister for Education, State of Qalat)

(4) Maulana Badar Alam (Ustaaz-ul-Hadees, Tando Allah Yar, Sindh)

(5) Maulana Ihtisham-ul-Haq Thanwi (Administrator, Dar-ul-Uloom Al Islamia, Ashraf-Abad, Sindh)

(6) Maulana Muhammad Abdul Hamid Qadri, Badyouni (President, Jamiat-Ulema Pakistan)

(7) Mufti Muhammad Shafi (Member Board of Islamic Education, Constituent Assembly Pakistan)

(8) Maulana Muhammad Idris Kandhalwi (Sheikh-ul-Jamia, Jamia Abbasiya, Bahalwpur)\

(9) Maulana Khair Muhammad (Administrator, Madrasa Khair-ul-Madaris, Multan city)

(10)Maulana Mufti Muhammad Hassan (Administrator, Madrasa Ashrafiya, Neela Gunbad, Lahore)

(11)Peer Sahab Muhammad Ameen-ul-Hasanaat (Manki shareef, Sarhad)

(12)Maulana Yusuf Binori (Shiekh-ul-Tafseer, Ashraf Abad, Sindh)

(13)Haji Khadim-ul-Islam Muhammad Ameen (Al Mujahid-Abad, Peshawar) Khalifa Haji Tarang Zai

(14)Qazi Abdul Samad Sarbaazi (Qazi Qalaat, Balochistan)

(15)Maulana Athar Ali (President Jamiat-Ulema Islam, East Pakistan)

(16)Maulana Abu ja’far Muhammad Saleh (Ameer Hizbullah, East Pakistan)

(17)Maulana Raghib Hassan (Vice President Jamiat-Ulema Islam, East Pakistan)

(18)Maulana Muhammad Habib-ur-Rehman (Sarseena Shareef, East Pakistan)

(19)Maulana Muhammad Ali Jalandhri (Majlis Ihrar-e-Islam, Pakistan)

(20)Maulana Dawud Ghaznavi (President Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadees, West Pakistan)

(21)Mufti Jafar Hussein Mujtahid (Member Board of Islamic Education)

(22)Mufti Hafiz Kifayat Hussein Mujtahid (Supreme Organization for Protection of Rights of Shia-e-Pakistan, Lahore)

(23)Maulana Muhammad Ismail (Nazim Jamiat Ahl-e-Hadees, Gujranwala, Pakistan)

(24)Maulana Habibullah (Jamia Deeniya Dar-ul-Huda, Therhy, Khairpur Mir)

(25)Maulana Ahmad Ali (Ameer Anjuman Khuddam-ul-Deen Sheranwala Darwaza, Lahore)

(26)Maulana Muhammad Sadiq (Administrator, Madrasa Mazhar-ul-Uloom, Khadda, Karachi)

(27)Professor Abdul Khaliq (Member Board of Islamic Education)

(28)Maulana Shams-ul-Haq Fareed Puri (Main Administrator, Madrasa Ashraf-ul-Uloom, Dhaka)

(29)Maulana Mufti Sahab Dad (Madrasat-ul-Islam, Karachi, Sindh)

(30)Maulana Muhammad Zafar Ahmad Ansari (Sec. Board of Islamic Education, Constituent Assembly, Pakistan)

(31)Peer Sahab Muhammad Hashim Mujaddadi (Tando Sayeen Daad, Sindh)

February 9th 1951

No Mullahs are not the problem, BUT our government, I personally think, as a guy who believes in the ideology given by Allama Iqbal R.H, if Sharia'ah is implemented in Pakistan in the real sense, I am sure, we'll get rid of this religious extremism, Mulla problem will be solved, in Sharia'ah, this corrupt Mullah system IS NOT TOLERABLE!

And yea, we can then behead these terrorists asap, unlike today, where our courts are letting them go away and they again blow our people with bombs.

If Government take serious action, Sharia'ah is NO problem, there already exists a consensus.

 

[T-Faz]

There has been a general consensus between all the religious sects to implement Sharia'ah in Pakistan, 22 points were approved, there's NO problem with anyone if these 22 points are implemented.

You haven't done any research in this matter I guess, my Friends.

Here are the 22 points, you can get details from Tanzeem e Islami offices too..

Agreed 22 Points of Ulema-e-Pakistan to establish Islamic Shariah

No Mullahs are not the problem, BUT our government, I personally think, as a guy who believes in the ideology given by Allama Iqbal R.H, if Sharia'ah is implemented in Pakistan in the real sense, I am sure, we'll get rid of this religious extremism, Mulla problem will be solved, in Sharia'ah, this corrupt Mullah system IS NOT TOLERABLE!

And yea, we can then behead these terrorists asap, unlike today, where our courts are letting them go away and they again blow our people with bombs.

If Government take serious action, Sharia'ah is NO problem, there already exists a consensus.

Well read this regarding this so called Objectives Resolution.

The Quaid-i-Azam's conception of a modern national State, it is alleged,became obsolete with the passing of the Objectives Resolution on 12th March 1949; but it has been freely admitted that this Resolution, though grandiloquent in words, phrases, and clauses, is nothing but a hoax, and that not only does it not contain even a semblance of the embryo of an Islamic State but its provisions, particularly those relating to fundamental rights, are directly opposed to the principles of an Islamic State.

Do these Ulema's even understand Islam?

They could not agree on a single definition of a Muslim.

Below we reprodure the definition of a Muslim given by each alim in his own words. This definition was asked after it had been clearly explained to each witness that he was required to give the irreducible minimum conditions which a person must satisfy to be entitled to be called a Muslim, and that the definition was to be on the principle on which a term in grammar is defined. Here is the result: --

Maulana Abul Hasanat Muhammad Ahmad Qadri, President, Jami'at-ul-Ulama-i-Pakistan --

"Q.--What is the definition of a Muslim?
A.-- (1) He must believe in the Unity of God.
(2) He must believe in the prophet of Islam to be a true prophet, as well as in all other prophets who have preceded him.
(3) He must believe in the Holy Prophet of Islam as the last of the prophets (khatam-un-nabiyin).
(4) He must believe in the Qur'an as it was revealed by God to the Holy Prophet of Islam.
(5) He must believe as binding on him the injunctions of the Prophet of Islam.
(6) He must believe in the qiyamat.
Q.-- Is a tarik-us-salat [=one who doesn't perform the prayers] a Muslim?
A.-- Yes, but not a munkir-us-salat [=one who denies that prayers are a duty]."

Maulana Ahmad Ali, President, Jami'at-ul-Ulama-i-Islam, Maghribi Pakistan --

"Q.-- Please define a Muslim.
A.-- A person is a Muslim if he believes (1) in the Qur'an and (2) what has been said by the prophet. Any person who possesses these two qualifications is entitled to be called a Muslim, without his being required to believe in anything more or to do anything more."

Maulana Abul Ala Maudoodi, Amir, Jama'at-i-Islami --

"Q.-Please define a Muslim.
A.-- A person is a Muslim if he believes (1) in tauheed, (2) in all the prophets (ambiya), (3) all the books revealed by God, (4) in mala'ika (angels), and (5) yaum-ul-akhira (the Day of Judgment).
Q.-- Is a mere profession of belief in these articles sufficient to entitle a man to call himself a Musalman and to be treated as a Musalman in an Islamic State?
A.-- Yes.
Q.-- If a person says that he believes in all these things, does anyone have a right to question the existence of his belief?
A.-- The five requisites that I have mentioned above are fundamental, and any alteration in any one of these articles will take him out of the pale of Islam."

Ghazi Siraj-ud-Din Munir --

"Q.-- Please define a Muslim.
A.-- I consider a man to be a Muslim if he professes his belief in the kalima, namely, La Ilaha Illallah-o-Muhammad-ur-Rasulullah, and leads a life in the footsteps of the Holy Prophet."

Mufti Muhammad Idris, Jamia Ashrafia, Nila Gumhad, Lahore --

"Q.-- Please give the definition of a Musalman.
A.-- The word 'Musalman' is a Persian one. There is a distinction between the word 'Musalman' which is a Persian word for Muslim, and the word 'momin'. It is impossible for me to give a complete definition of the word 'momin'. I would require pages and pages to describe what a momin is. A person is a Muslim who professes to be obedient to Allah. He should believe in the Unity of God, prophethood of the ambiya, and in the Day of Judgment. A person who does not believe in the azan or in the qurbani goes outside the pale of Islam. Similarly, there are a large number of other things which have been received by tavatir from our prophet. In order to be a Muslim, he must believe in all these things. It is almost impossible for me to give a complete list of such things."

Hafiz Kifayat Hussain, Idara-i-Haquq-i-Tahaffuz-i-Shia --

"Q.-Who is a Musalman?
A.-- A person is entitled to be called a Musalman if he believes in (1) tauheed, (2) nubuwwat, and (3) qiyamat. These are the the fundamental beliefs which a person must profess to be called a Musalman. In regard to these three basic doctrines there is no difference between the Shias and the Sunnies. Besides the belief in these three doctrines, there are other things called 'zarooriyat-i-din' which a person must comply with in order to be entitled to be called a Musalman. These will take me two days to define and enumerate. But as an illustration I might state that the respect for the Holy Book, wajoob-i-nimaz, wajoob-i-roza, wajoob-i-hajj-ma'a-shariat, and other things too numerous to mention, are among the 'zarooriyat-i-din'."

Maulana Abdul Hamid Badayuni, President, Jami'at-ul-Ulama-i-Pakistan: --

"Q.-- Who is a Musalman, according to you?
A.-- A person who believes in the zarooriyat-i-din is called a momin, and every momin is entitled to be called a Musalman.
Q.-- What are these zarooriyat-i.din?
A.-- A person who believes in the five pillars of Islam and who believes in the rasalat of our Holy Prophet fulfils the zarooriyat-i-din.
Q.-- Have other actions, apart from the five arakan, anything to do with a man being a Muslim or being outside the pale of Islam?
(Note-- Witness has been explained [to] that by actions are meant those rules of moral conduct which in modern society are accepted as correct.)
A.-- Certainly.
Q.-- Then you will not call a person a Muslim who believes in arakan-i-khamsa and the rasalat of the prophet but who steals other peoples' things, embezzles property entrusted to him, has an evil eye on his neighbour's wife, and is guilty of the grossest ingratitude to his benefector?
A.-- Such a person, if he has the belief already indicated, will be a Muslim despite all this."

Maulana Muhammad Ali Kandhalvi, Darush-Shahabia, Sialkot --

"Q.--Please define a Musalman.
A.-- A person who in obedience to the commands of the prophet performs all the zarooriyat-i-din is a Musalman.
Q.-- Can you define zarooriyat-i-din?
A.-- Zarooriyat-i-din are those requirements which are known to every Muslim irrespective of his religious knowledge.
Q.-- Can you enumerate zarooriyat-i-din?
A.-- These are too numerous to be mentioned. I myself cannot enumerate these zarooriyat. Some of the zarooriyat-i-din may be mentioned, as salat, saum, etc."

Maulana Amin Ahsab Islahi -

"Q.-- Who is a Musalman?
A.-- There are two kinds of Musalmans, a political (siyasi) Musalman and a real (haqiqi) Musalman. In order to be called a political Musalman, a person must:
(1) believe in the Unity of God,
(2) believe in our Holy Prophet being khatam-un-nabiyin, i.e., 'final authority' in all matters relating to the life of that person,
(3) believe that all good and evil comes from Allah,
(4) believe in the Day of Judgment,
(5) believe in the Qur'an to be the last book revealed by Allah,
(6) perform the annual pilgrimage to Mecca,
(7) pay the zaka'at,
(8) say his prayers like the Musalmans,
(9) observe all apparent rules of Islami mu'ashira, and
(10) observe the fast (saum).
If a person satisfies all these conditions he is entitled to the rights of a full citizen of an Islamic State. If any one of these conditions is not satisfied, the person concerned will not be a political Musalman. (Again said It would be enough for a person to be a Musalman if he merely professes his belief in these ten matters irrespective of whether he puts them into practice or not. In order to be a real Musalman, a person must believe in and act on all the injunctions by Allah and his prophet in the manner in which they have been enjoined upon him.

Q.-- Will you say that only the real MusaIman is 'mard-i-saleh'?
A.--Yes.
Q.-- Do we understand you aright that in the case of what you have called a political (siyasi) Musalman, belief alone is necessary, while in the case of a haqiqi Musalman there must not only be belief but also action?
A.-- No, you have not understood me aright. Even in the case of a political (siyasi) Musalman action is necessary; but what I mean to say is that if a person does not act upon the belief that is necessary in the case of such a MusaIman, he will not be outside the pale of a political (siyasi) M:usalman.
Q.-- If a political (siyasi) Musalman does not believe in things which you have stated to be necessary, will you call such a person be-din?
A.-- No, I will call him merely be-amal."


The definition by the Sadr Anjuman Ahmadiya, Rabwah, in its written statement, is that a Muslim is a person who belongs to the ummat of the Holy Prophet and professes belief in kalima-i-tayyaba.

d.) Keeping in view the several definitions given by the ulama, need we make any comment except that no two learned divines are agreed on this fundamental? If we attempt our own definition, as each learned divine has done, and that definition differs from that given by all others, we unanimously go out of the fold of Islam. And if we adopt the definition given by any one of the ulama, we remain Muslims according to the view of that alim, but kafirs according to the definition of everyone else.

In one of the sessions, the Ulema asked the judge to provide him with more time so that he can devise an answer to who is a Muslim. To this reply, Justice Kayani got angry and stated that it has been thousands of years since Islam began and you still cannot state who a Muslim is.

“Some say, they were three, and the fourth was their dog; others say, they were five, and the sixth was their dog, guessing at random. * * * * say, my Lord knoweth best.”

Lord knoweth best and you leave it up to him.

I rest my case.

 

[AAtish]

There has been a general consensus between all the religious sects to implement Sharia'ah in Pakistan, 22 points were approved, there's NO problem with anyone if these 22 points are implemented.

You haven't done any research in this matter I guess, my Friends.

Here are the 22 points, you can get details from Tanzeem e Islami offices too..

Agreed 22 Points of Ulema-e-Pakistan to establish Islamic Shariah


No Mullahs are not the problem, BUT our government, I personally think, as a guy who believes in the ideology given by Allama Iqbal R.H, if Sharia'ah is implemented in Pakistan in the real sense, I am sure, we'll get rid of this religious extremism, Mulla problem will be solved, in Sharia'ah, this corrupt Mullah system IS NOT TOLERABLE!

And yea, we can then behead these terrorists asap, unlike today, where our courts are letting them go away and they again blow our people with bombs.

If Government take serious action, Sharia'ah is NO problem, there already exists a consensus.

My friend, i have read it before, and i have done my research. If you read the 22 points which you have mentioned you’ll see that they are vague in nature. None of the points elaborate anything specific. I can go point-by-point and explain what I mean but I think if you can dig them out then you are qualified enough to understand what I am trying to say here. I’ll take the first few points just for example.

(1) ALLAH (SWT) is the REAL Sovereign and Lord of this universe.

Very clear, No question about it!

(2) The Law of the country shall be based on Quran and Sunnah and neither any law shall be enacted nor any Administrative injunction shall be laid down that is repugnant to Quran and Sunnah.

Accepted cordially..

(3) This country shall not be based on any geographical, racial, linguistic or any other concepts but on those principles and aims which are based on the code of life laid down by Islam.
(4) It shall be the obligation of Islamic state to establish the goods defined by Quran and Sunnah, suppress the wrongs and arrange for the revival and supremacy of Islamic beliefs and for the necessary education of established Islamic sects according to their understandings of religion.

The bold portions are not clarified, and to be honest with you, these are the things which sects fight on, i mean, many sects fight on rafa-e-yadain and kalma-e-shahadat in Pakistan.. every sect has its own definition of “way of living according to Islam”. Until those are defined, these points do not server any purpose except “lip service”.

Hope you understand..

 

[VelocuR]

Pakistanis are only interested to find good benefits themselves instead the survival of Pakistan. Trust me, nobody is really cared about Pakistan's brightest future.

Pakistanis are completely divided and endless arguments. I sometimes begin to wonder why I am Pakistani at first place, why not white or smart chinese.

No one will listen your summary unfortunately.

 

[jbond197]

A honest question to all my Pakistani friends here, How many of you consider yourself pure Muslims? I mean have you not done anything that's consider bad in Islam and if you did then does that not go against the basic concept of the nation of Muslims.

Another thing, I read somewhere that the Only 2.75 million Pakistanis, or mere 1.6 percent of the country’s population pays taxes. How many agree with me that for improving Pakistan's health, apart from other things citizens need to pay their taxes timely? In my opinion, better tax collections and good democratic governance can really help Pakistan move towards peace and prosperity. my two cents.

 

[Abu Basit]

It was, then why did it become the Dominion of Pakistan when it was created.

I know you Islamists wants to force your intolerant and violent ways onto other but it won't work.

Ran away?

I am not like those burka wearing Mullahs you are very close to.

bring your proofs instead of running away from the thread- your memory is short, not good at this young age

the Islamists will enforce Islamic system, inshaAllah and we know the liberal trash is allergic to the name 'Islam.

Pakistan was created in the name of Islam and it will remain as such and there's nothing the liberal fascists can do about this- these seculars have destroyed the country and the time has come to take this trash to task.

 

[Emran]

very well written thread/post..I agree with everything but bro, I am supporter of SHraiah law...Sharia law will not harm us..It will provide su benefits...OPur enemies wnats to adopt secularism...This is all they want..N belive me...Secularism is BS

 

[Frankenstein]

This Kid was killed in drone attack, so many innocent people died,does he looks like a Taliban??

a big question is, wots the difference between terrorists and American forces??

and if you still support drone attacks in Pakistan, then you can go fuk yourselves

 

[Abu Basit]

Well read this regarding this so called Objectives Resolution.

Lord knoweth best and you leave it up to him.

I rest my case.

yes- you should be resting your case as you have nothing substantive to back up your flawed claims.

Let me help people to understand what was Mr Jinnah's vision for Pakistan:

I cannot understand those people who deliberately do the propaganda that the constitution of Pakistan will not be based on Shariat. Islamic principles today are are as much applicable as they were 1300 years ago. I want to very clearly tell those, who have gone astray unfortunately, not only Muslims but the non-muslims should also not fear anything here. Islam and its idealism have taught Equality, Justice and Fairplay to everybody.

[ Jinnah, 25 January 1948. Address to Bar Association Karachi ]

Just look at the beauty of this speech, it is relevant even today where the Seculars (who have gone astray) are doing the propaganda- this tiny lil section always existed.

 

[Abu Basit]

This Kid was killed in drone attack, so many innocent people died,does he looks like a Taliban??

a big question is, wots the difference between terrorists and American forces??

and if you still support drone attacks in Pakistan, then you can go fuk yourselves

come'on he is just a kid belonging to a backward area and his father, most probably have a beard, he deserves to die.

 

[usmanusman]

Thanks T-Faz.. as you can see from my post, i am against all this Islamisation of country without any defined Shariah Law, accepted by all sects.. Until then, i am suggesting to refrain from it..

It should be ruled as a 'state' only, especially in current situation, we cannot afford any internal conflict right now, neither religious nor provincial etc..

and for the line you mentioned.. I was referring to what the current name of our country is.. here's the link

 

[Fracker]

Im sorry to say but whats islamic in Pakistan? The name i guess?

This country is being destroyed by 2 parasites:
1-extreme liberals...who want somethin like "europe wala mahoul".
2-extreme islamists want so called "saudi arabia" and impose their own laws at other people by force.

The third kind......people like me ........ the country is getting smaller and smaller.

I wish the first 2 kinda people died.

When ever i read/listen such thing, the only thing come into my mind is a example.

In every society there are around 5% of the people who are on the left side, & 5% of the people who are right sided & remaining 90% people belongs to nobody. When 5% of the left wing people get stronger, those 90% of nobodies join the hand with them, and whole society become Left Wing Society. Same case when other 5% right siders become stronger, whole society become right wing people.

So problem is not which extremist, problem is those 90% people who belong to no body land and don't have their own side, which makes people to shift on oneside or another.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]