Islamic extremism The languages of jihad

[Cherokee]

And how you plan to do that?
Examples or a roadplan would be nice,a realistic one please and think of the neighbourhoods when you think about it
Mostly indroctunated outcasts of the modern society(in the west discriminated people and in the east no knowledge whatsoever.)
And do you plan to get to these people?

The China/Russia way . Kill the figureheads( as Russia did with Chechnya separatists) and slowing "force" development ( China) and education on them .

 

[T-123456]

The China/Russia way . Kill the figureheads( as Russia did with Chechnya separatists) and slowing "force" development ( China) and education on them .

I believe they still active in both countries,its to difficult to do it that way.
They get fonded by their heads in other muslim countries.

 

[Cherokee]

I believe they still active in both countries,its to difficult to do it that way.
They get fonded by their heads in other muslim countries.

Chechan rebel leadership has been sent to other side of the rainbow . Same is true for Uighur Separatists .

 

[illusion8]

Do you think its that simple?

Islam is used just as a facade....Terrorists have different reasons for their activity. Some are criminal, some want money/power, some think West is attacking Muslims, some just want to topple their governments so on and so forth..

It is a very complicated world my friend..not that simple.

Islamic Fundamentalism spreading in Pakistan is the biggest danger to our way of life! Down with idiot, ******, dirty, ugly, wahabi fundamentalist SOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jihaad & Fundamentalism has become more of a business and a power struggle than is actually a necessity. The increasing use of modern tools to spread the message is proof that these fundamentalists are ready to adapt any means available to earn both power, man power, territory and money.

The fundamentalists want to take over countries now.

 

[T-123456]

Chechan rebel leadership has been sent to other side of the rainbow . Same is true for Uighur Separatists .

Oh yes you are right,he gone and they dont have new ones to take his place and same for Uygur separatists.
Srry forgot about that,all problems solved now then

 

[Cherokee]

Oh yes you are right,he gone and they dont have new ones to take his place and same for Uygur separatists.
Srry forgot about that,all problems solved now then

All problem is not solved but they have been effectively diminished to a point wherein they are not of much concern in the foreseeable future .

 

[T-123456]

All problem is not solved but they have been effectively diminished to a point wherein they are not of much concern in the foreseeable future .

Let the future show us then.

 

[KRAIT]

Watch the extent of Brainwashing of even children. Telling Jews are apes and pigs, threatening the soldiers of the same country they live in like Britain, France etc. Desecration of Churches. Giving annd teaching kids to use a gun. Teenage suicide bombers.

Obsession - Radical Islam. (Full Documentary) - YouTube

 

[Cloakedvessel]

Looks like the extremists have discovered Google translate.

This is an older article but none the less relevant and insightful.

Islamic fundamentalism, post-modernism and science

The plurality espoused by post-modernism, due to its relativism and acceptance of multiple truths, remains strange to these Islamists claiming the ownership of absolute truth

The recent killing of Yemeni-American Imam, Anwar al-Awlaki, in a drone attack has brought to front the significance of Islamist propaganda in cyberspace and its effects on terror recruitment. Hundreds of sermons by Awlaki were available on the internet. He operated a Facebook page, ran a blog and was described as ‘Osama bin Laden of the internet’. His online influence has been linked with more than a dozen terror investigations including the Fort Hood shooting by Major Nidal Hasan and the Times Square bombing attempt by Faisal Shahzad.

The relationship between religious fundamentalism and technology has remained complicated. Religious fundamentalist movements have been widely described as reaction to modernity though the movements are themselves modern in nature. Hence there exists an inherent conflict where these movements reject the underlying notions of rationality, secular and scientific constituting modernity. On the other hand, these movements continue to appropriate modern symbols and technology to further their cause. Historically, fundamentalist movements vehemently opposed natural sciences and technology but that does not hold true anymore. As stated in a paper titled ‘Postmodern Conservatism and Religious Fundamentalism’ by Geoff Boucher, the fundamentalist movements of today harbour a selective, instead of a wholesome, hostility towards natural sciences and try to engage in an understanding of the world that remains compatible with the commercialised science of today encompassing applied sciences and technology. Hence, these movements hold a significant appeal among technical professionals such as engineers, doctor and lawyers. Carrying forward this correlation between technical education and fundamentalism, a 2009 study published in The European Journal of Sociology showed that engineers constitute 20 percent of all Islamist militant organisations, a value remarkably greater than the expected 3.5 percent figure.

One of the striking features within Islamist propaganda is the appropriation of post-modern criticism of modernity. As many observers would be familiar, this appropriation is not just limited to a critique of science. Islamists make a very effective use of post-colonial discourse in order to attack the ‘west’ and reject liberal democracy. During this process, they portray themselves as anti-imperialists and present political Islam as an alternative to ‘western democracy’. A similar attitude has been adopted towards science, which, manifesting itself through technology in a globalised world, threatens their traditional ethos and beliefs.

I recently came across an Urdu article available on an online Islamist journal. It was originally published in a monthly journal named Sahil from Karachi and strives to ‘expose’ the reality of scientific method, which remains, as per the editor, ‘irreligious’, ‘worldly’, ‘greedy’ and ‘jealous’ in nature. The article starts with an introduction of the inductive method of reasoning and takes on the classical ‘Problem of Induction’ that has perplexed philosophers such as David Hume since enlightenment. Karl Popper’s attempt to go around the problem through his ‘Criterion of Falsifiability’ is discussed to imply that science remains a crude hit and trial method of accumulating knowledge. Moving forward to the post-modern critique of science, the article cites Thomas Kuhn’s ‘The Structures of Scientific Revolutions’ to introduce the concept of ‘paradigm shift’ and the role played by personal bias while formulating conclusions based upon scientific data. This post-modern critique serves as an easy vehicle for the author to claim that science remains an ideological, subjective and relative form of knowledge that may not claim any objectivity and superiority over other forms of knowledge. This selective use of critique is then used to jump some wild conclusions; since scientists cannot know anything for sure, they make up hypothesis to obtain research grants and that science is itself a religion. The author refers to the post-modern critics as ‘western philosophers’, hence making sure that science and its criticism both remain foreign and ‘western’ ideas that an Islamist discourse can easily reject.

Such attempts by Islamist writers always remain selective and agenda-driven. These writers gladly appropriate post-modern ideas to deconstruct scientific method but never apply the same critique to their own foundationalist set of beliefs. These fundamentalists find the demolition of a grand narrative that claimed progress through science convenient but never ponder upon the irony that their own project of ruling the world under a strict religious code remains another of the grand narratives. Moreover, the plurality espoused by post-modernism, due to its relativism and acceptance of multiple truths, remains strange to these Islamists claiming the ownership of absolute truth. The most evident irony lying in the fact that they are using the fruits of modern science to put forward their message is obviously lost upon them.

http://dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2011\11\23\story_23-11-2011_pg3_3

 

[Not Sure]

These are the enemies of muslims,these idiots make us look bad.
Solution,kill them all.

Do you think its that simple?

Islam is used just as a facade....Terrorists have different reasons for their activity. Some are criminal, some want money/power, some think West is attacking Muslims, some just want to topple their governments so on and so forth..

It is a very complicated world my friend..not that simple.

Islamic Fundamentalism spreading in Pakistan is the biggest danger to our way of life! Down with idiot, ******, dirty, ugly, wahabi fundamentalist SOBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CONSPIRACY : WHY DID NO ONE IN PLOTTERS’ COMMUNITY TIP OFF POLICE?

It is so convenient to anonymously criticize once they are convicted...

I wonder how many Muslim Members on PDF who criticize such acts would have actually called the cops on these terrorists. May be all, may be none, but fact has been established that not one in that particular community decided to call the police despite knowing full well that a massive attack on the people in England was underway. They are the citizens of that country!

Now how are non-Muslims to be blamed for their prevailing beliefs and generalizations against entire Muslim community?

 

[KRAIT]

Watch especially 1:04:00 onwards. Children taught to mock beheading and Real Beheading done by a Child.

They are teaching kids to become suicide bombers, terrorists, Jihad etc.

Won't the West be paranoid if there are hate speeches are given in public misusing Freedom of Speech ?

Jihad - Radical Islam's Goals - YouTube


A moderate and a good Muslim took the charge to tell that these radicals are enemy of the moderate Muslims.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

there is a very wide distinction between "political Islam" and "Islam of the Quran"

kind of like how surely there's a distinction between those screaming about Akhund bharata and "hindutva" versus peaceful mainstream hinduism


@KRAIT -- what is your intention by posting these types of articles (you've been online here for over 7 hours)

 

[KRAIT]

there is a very wide distinction between "political Islam" and "Islam of the Quran"
kind of like how surely there's a distinction between those screaming about Akhund bharata and "hindutva" versus peaceful mainstream hinduism @KRAIT -- what is your intention by posting these types of articles (you've been online here for over 7 hours)

First thing I woke up at 6 o clock. I am always logged in and never shut off my laptop.

Secondly, I am providing the distinction who are Good Muslims who are working against Radical Islamists. All are good documentaries.

It also talks of Petrodollars used in spread of Wahabism in US. Don't you want to help people to distinguish what is Real Islam - Religion of Peace and what is this twisted version Spread in our world.

Proper information is only way to inform people to avoid paranoia.

 

[Ayush]

education is the key to this problem.the muslims,especially in the third world countries are easily brainwashed by these extremists.

lack of education plays a significant role in this.

 

[KRAIT]

education is the key to this problem.the muslims,especially in the third world countries are easily brainwashed by these extremists.lack of education plays a significant role in this.

Not really. Indian Muslims are poor and don't get too much education. Is there any International terrorist group in India ? Why is that you hardly ever heard an Indian Muslim terrorist bombing US consulates or Western countries ?

Its about teaching basic tolerance and respect to all religion.