Islamabad - Dehli Nexus? (Current Kashmir Development)

[Ace of Spades]

Do we go tit for tat and make azad kashmir 5th province and baltistan 6th province of pakistan?

It will legitimize india's revocation of art370 35a, and it will nullify pakistan's stance in international community.

 

[war&peace]

Apologies for that, but I had to respond to his uncalled for statement. Hopefully you understand.

I do agree with you and that's why I didn't like OP as whole but just the relevant and reasonable points. However, it is very important for PM of Pakistan (not the chairman of PTI) to condemn this act by India. I have been checking his twitter..but he has not condemned it yet. And I can't understand why.... ANd definitely his opponents and critics will take full advantage of that and that's expected but what is stoppinh him.

 

[Smoke]

I want a Villa overlooking the valley where i can smoke up and tell my kid

everything the light touches is your kingdom.

what about my human rights !!

I'm guessing you won't tell your kid to stay away from the the shadowy place? (IOK)

 

[El Sidd]

I'm guessing you won't tell your kid to stay away from the the shadowy place? (IOK)

that Starts in Bihar

 

[Smoke]

I do agree with you and that's why I didn't like OP as whole but just the relevant and reasonable points. However, it is very important for PM of Pakistan (not the chairman of PTI) to condemn this act by India. I have been checking his twitter..but he has not condemned it yet. And I can't understand why.... ANd definitely his opponents and critics will take full advantage of that and that's expected but what is stoppinh him.

He hasn't condemned it, I don't even know if he is aware he hasn't. He has been stating how wrong & illegal this all is. Check it out here: https://www.khaleejtimes.com/international/pakistan/imran-khan-reacts-to-indias-decision-on-kashmir

I don't really know what he is up to.

 

[rak_987]

@war&peace Coindemnation is irrelevant now. It is time for some action. I'm not talking military aggressive posture diplomatically, throw out there ambassador and bring ours back. Cut india to size in LoC which is also no more. Pakistan has the capability to do it, PM Imran Khan should not come in betweeen the security apparatus with stupid peace decisions.

 

[nahtanbob]

You know, we'd rather do the right thing than let evil genocide occur. The real currency we desire is not in this world, it's the deeds we crave in the afterlife.

everyone has their choices to make

 

[shahbaz baig]

Pakistan's states should announce jihad against india. THIS is the only option. NOW do you want it?

 

[war&peace]

He hasn't condemned it, I don't even know if he is aware he hasn't. He has been stating how wrong & illegal this all is. Check it out here: https://www.khaleejtimes.com/international/pakistan/imran-khan-reacts-to-indias-decision-on-kashmir

I don't really know what he is up to.

How come he does not know about it? and if he does not know then I'm sorry to say he does not deserve to remain the PM of Pakistan. It is not year 2000 BC. He is on twitter and I have checked his tweets and he has tweeted about IoJ&K and oppression -the usual stuff..but not a single mention of today's development
here is the link

https://twitter.com/x/status/1157986386496163841

@war&peace Coindemnation is irrelevant now. It is time for some action. I'm not talking military aggressive posture diplomatically, throw out there ambassador and bring ours back. Cut india to size in LoC which is also no more. Pakistan has the capability to do it, PM Imran Khan should not come in betweeen the security apparatus with stupid peace decisions.

Dear condemnation is the very first step and a low hanging fruit and pre-sequel to to upcoming actions...

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I understand except you are at the mercy of USA, China and Saudi Arabia. None of them want a nuclear war
You still need them in a few months



shooting the messenger does not change reality

Dont you have your own local terrorism to worry about? Talk about obsession

 

[Crusher]

I stopped coming and visiting this forum after @django episode. However, current developments compelled me to share my thoughts. It is the day when oppression was normalized and Pakistan "knowingly and willingly" didn't do much! The reaction from GoP and State of Pakistan (including all institutions) was pathetic to say the least. "Condemnation, calling in Indian ambassador to register the protest, calling few countries!". And they all did it while Kashmir (hamari shah rug) was being taken.

Most worrying point is that state of Pakistan didn't get to know about this today or yesterday. They knew it from weeks and months. They knew what was coming and our PM was planting trees today. Core commanders meeting is called tomorrow as if it's a sudden development. It's all hogwash.

If they knew and had done nothing to counter it, by whichever means, they are as responsible as India for this oppression.

If they didn't know and are that incompetent then they have no right to rule this country.

I find it ridiculously insulting to Kashmir struggle and sentiments of 220 Million Pakistanis that a person sitting in PM office is quacking like a parrot about all the shit of the world instead of countering and strategizing against India's plans, when they were deploying military in Kashmir from weeks. They weren't gathering there for his 4th walema celebrations.

Lots of you guys are asking for options, what could be done. IMO immediately Pakistan should've had

1- Matched military deployment in Kashmir 1:1
2- Expelled their envoy
3- Trade routes/ air routes closure
4- Forward deployment of troops/ artillery

Since it's not done, i have serious doubt about the seriousness from Pakistan's side because as always, in one or two days all this media ranting will be over and it will be a non issue and will be replaced by something else, some other issue and new condemnations will start rolling in.

It's Pakistan's fight and pakistan have to fight it herself. No one will fight it for you. Asking international community to intervene, asking brotherly countries to sever ties with India is too much to ask. No one will do that, except for few bare statements.

I voted for Imran Khan, cheered for his anti corruption drive. But his weak stance so far is making me doubt his intentions towards this issue. He was planting trees today while Kashmir was being taken away from us, FM went to perform Hajj.

It's now or never. If Pakistan stays silent and don't do much of the magnitude this situation requires, Forget Kashmir and Forget sovereignty.

We are governed by "small men" holding the higher up positions, yes I am playing with imran khans "small men holding top offices" comment against him.

 

[El Sidd]

We are governed by "small men" holding the higher up positions, yes I am playing with imran khans "small men holding top offices" comment against him.

it was nice knowing you

 

[rak_987]

@war&peace
Hahahaha No need to waste another tweet. What will a tweet achieve? no need to alert the enemy in case of some strong step taken.
PAkistan Govt. has released an official statement by the Prime Minister, his tweets are basically his opinion.
Imran Khan foreign policy has failed, his stupid peace overtures have failed. Pakistani should'nt care anymore.
DG ISPR has also not tweeted. Tweets of condemnation or statements will not help.
Pak Army should do something on the ground and the PTI govt. should back them. Situation will unravel from tomorrow onwards. Diplomatic draamaybaazi should'nt be done UN is disinterested about Kashmir

 

[war&peace]

@war&peace
Hahahaha No need to waste another tweet. What will a tweet achieve? no need to alert the enemy in case of some strong step taken.
PAkistan Govt. has released an official statement by the Prime Minister, his tweets are basically his opinion.
Imran Khan foreign policy has failed, his stupid peace overtures have failed. Pakistani should'nt care anymore.
DG ISPR has also not tweeted. Tweets of condemnation or statements will not help.
Pak Army should do something on the ground and the PTI govt. should back them. Situation will unravel from tomorrow onwards. Diplomatic draamaybaazi should'nt be done UN is disinterested about Kashmir

Bro, I'm 100% for boots on ground... I think now military solution is the only option left.

IMO, i hope i am wrong but i think it's a bigger game that's being played here and he is part of it. Before indian elections, he was rooting for modi to come in power to solve kashmir issue. I think the theory of trification may will be true afterall. The next move by dehli will be to further divide Kashmir region and that's where he may have a deal with India. Ladkh and Jammu goes to India, GB comes to Pakistan and sovereign Kashmir valley.

Well, I have been hearing all kinds of stuff but I'll wait a few days (1-2)

 

[Crusher]

DG ISPR has also not tweeted. Tweets of condemnation or statements will not help.
Pak Army should do something on the ground and the PTI govt. should back them. Situation will unravel from tomorrow onwards. Diplomatic draamaybaazi should'nt be done UN is disinterested about Kashmir[/USER]

UN is a failed organization. Today's bifurcation of J&K state by Indian parliament is a slap on the UN resolutions, but nothing will happen because UN is a failed jokers club which most big countries don't take seriously anymore.