ISIS Bangladesh chief wants Bengal to be center of global Jihad

[Nilgiri]

Let me dispell some very long held myths about immigration between India and Bd.

Bangladesh is the 5th largest source of remittances to India in the world.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alyssaayres/2014/02/26/indias-stakes-in-the-middle-east/#1eb370a363b9

On the other hand, remittance from India to BD is negligible.

https://www.bb.org.bd/econdata/wagermidtl.php


Bdeshis are one of the top 10 strongest remitters in the world, wherever we go we send money home.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/business/2015/apr/20/remittance-inflow-see-record-high-2015

So why is it that if there are "millions" of Bangladeshis in India, they send almost nothing back?

Then again, which country is our number one remittance recipient? You guessed it, India.

It's impossible to have any kind of statistical debate about Bdeshi immigration becuase Indian claimed stats have fluctuated wildly over the years. The numbers claimed by successive govts have been self serving. The remittance numbers, however, do not lie.

I can tell you first hand, Bangladesh is home to countless Indians. All IT, engineering, medical even garment sectors are riddled. Indian firms are investing hugely in Bd and sending in their own teams. So tell me who should be more worried - you or us? You are very fortunate that you have Bangladeshi neighbours. We don't begrudge visitors coming to our country to work.

You seem to be a new member here.

The remittance thing was discussed a long time ago.

Please read this page:

https://defence.pk/threads/bengali-economic-migrants-in-pakistan.405826/page-7#post-7824759

 

[scholseys]

No such thing as IS in Bangladesh according to the Hasina regime, on the other hand the leader of
IS in BD gave a full four page interview on Dabiq .

 

[Nilgiri]

Thanks for making my job easier I didnt want to bring any name to reply back Trolls. Doesnt change the fact ISIS is global intelligence project from broader point of view.

Sure. CIA/Mossad/MI6/KGB will work with RAW when and if they decide ISIS in bangladesh means anything significant.

Right now ISIS simply spawns to some degree whenever there is a high enough concentration of muslim people. More often than not, it is dealt with locally. Most such local people inherently find ISIS dangerous even if they sympathise or even agree with various parts of its theoretical agenda....because of what ISIS does to fellow muslims and the methods they employ. Its main reason it will not succeed in South Asia Muslims at large (except few pockets at most)....because there is a multi-layer fabric here....it is not harsh desert Arab culture that has been stripped of its earlier cultural histories and nuances to a very large degree.

The BAL/RAW feeder proxy network will definitely give the tip offs to local Bangladesh security for anything major.

Till then its mostly just fear mongering by ISIS given the political process going on in India and the lingering uneasiness and tense atmosphere in Bangladesh ever since SHW returned and has targeted BNP/Jamati strongly.

The hacking of one or two dumb bloggers may continue every now and then. But Bangladeshi people (esp BAL and allies) will take care of any ISIS nexus that tries to spawn....the population density is too high and too much at stake for Bangladesh elite and growing middle class + poor aspirers for there to be sanctuaries to easily form

No such thing as IS in Bangladesh according to the Hasina regime, on the other hand the leader of
IS in BD gave a full four page interview on Dabiq .

They are both right. It depends on the perspective you look at.

 

[scholseys]

No such thing as IS in Bangladesh according to the Hasina regime, on the other hand the leader of
IS in BD gave a full four page interview on Dabiq

Sure. CIA/Mossad/MI6/KGB will work with RAW when and if they decide ISIS in bangladesh means anything significant.

Right now ISIS simply spawns to some degree whenever there is a high enough concentration of muslim people. More often than not, it is dealt with locally. Most such local people inherently find ISIS dangerous even if they sympathise or even agree with various parts of its theoretical agenda....because of what ISIS does to fellow muslims and the methods they employ. Its main reason it will not succeed in South Asia Muslims at large (except few pockets at most)....because there is a multi-layer fabric here....it is not harsh desert Arab culture that has been stripped of its earlier cultural histories and nuances to a very large degree.

The BAL/RAW feeder proxy network will definitely give the tip offs to local Bangladesh security for anything major.

Till then its mostly just fear mongering by ISIS given the political process going on in India and the lingering uneasiness and tense atmosphere in Bangladesh ever since SHW returned and has targeted BNP/Jamati strongly.

The hacking of one or two dumb bloggers may continue every now and then. But Bangladeshi people (esp BAL and allies) will take care of any ISIS nexus that tries to spawn....the population density is too high and too much at stake for Bangladesh elite and growing middle class + poor aspirers for there to be sanctuaries to easily form



They are both right. It depends on the perspective you look at.

The bloggers were hacked not by ISIS but AQIS, AQIS and the ISIS are competing for space in South Asia.

 

[Nilgiri]

The bloggers were hacked not by ISIS but AQIS, AQIS and the ISIS are competing for space in South Asia.

I didn't say the hackings are ISIS connected. Simply thats probably the most that will happen in Bangladesh in terms of extremism by default.

ISIS is not even a small percentage yet of the extremism that does exist in Bangladesh right now. They have little to no depth even among the B'desh fanatics that exist (and are willing to put actions to thought and words)...and its doubtful there will be any huge shift in the makeup that currently exists.

I mean ISIS is already past its prime where it is right now. None of their predictions have come true, they are waning seriously and will be history not to far from now compared to when they were at their prime. How they splinter and stay around long term will again have little effect on most muslim fanatical populations worldwide outside of the hearth area where ISIS formed....since fanatics naturally need the aura of success and momentum to breed support and sanctuary where they are....both of which are in severe short supply from ISIS now. When at their prime they had little effect in South Asia, they will have even less in the coming months and years.

 

[scholseys]

I didn't say the hackings are ISIS connected. Simply thats probably the most that will happen in Bangladesh in terms of extremism by default.

ISIS is not even a small percentage yet of the extremism that does exist in Bangladesh right now. They have little to no depth even among the B'desh fanatics that exist (and are willing to put actions to thought and words)...and its doubtful there will be any huge shift in the makeup that currently exists.

Jamaati activists will soon start joining the ISIS in droves and will pickup arms as soon as the BNP and the JeI are eliminated from politics. The latest issue of dabiq already talks about few shibir men joining the ISIS camp...

 

[Nilgiri]

Jamaati activists will soon start joining the ISIS in droves and will pickup arms as soon as the BNP and the JeI are eliminated from politics. The latest issue of dabiq already talks about few shibir men joining the ISIS camp...

We are talking about a few in the midst of many millions.

I have my doubts ISIS will find any big landfall in Bangladesh. I mean I can find even people from Tamil Nadu that have joined ISIS or are even in India still and are posting ISIS flags and messages in support (I have seen these pictures myself). But that doesn't mean that ISIS is going to be significant. Its simply another phase of the moon passing by. It has come, it will go...but moon (human nature + fundamentalism) will exist for a very long time.

If it turns into something huge and big in South Asia, then I will stand corrected. But the authorities and general populace will overall not sit idly by while that happens, as is the case with such forms of foreign origin extremism to begin with.

 

[Peshwa]

Let me dispell some very long held myths about immigration between India and Bd.

Bangladesh is the 5th largest source of remittances to India in the world.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alyssaayres/2014/02/26/indias-stakes-in-the-middle-east/#1eb370a363b9

On the other hand, remittance from India to BD is negligible.

https://www.bb.org.bd/econdata/wagermidtl.php


Bdeshis are one of the top 10 strongest remitters in the world, wherever we go we send money home.

http://www.dhakatribune.com/business/2015/apr/20/remittance-inflow-see-record-high-2015

So why is it that if there are "millions" of Bangladeshis in India, they send almost nothing back?

Then again, which country is our number one remittance recipient? You guessed it, India.

It's impossible to have any kind of statistical debate about Bdeshi immigration becuase Indian claimed stats have fluctuated wildly over the years. The numbers claimed by successive govts have been self serving. The remittance numbers, however, do not lie.

I can tell you first hand, Bangladesh is home to countless Indians. All IT, engineering, medical even garment sectors are riddled. Indian firms are investing hugely in Bd and sending in their own teams. So tell me who should be more worried - you or us? You are very fortunate that you have Bangladeshi neighbours. We don't begrudge visitors coming to our country to work.

I suppose for one, remittances track the legal immigrants eg. H1B visa holders sending money to India..
India's problem is with the illegal immigrants...(loosely referred to on this forum as the pole vaulters, if you will)..the people that cross illegally, don't pay their taxes, squat on the roads and are basically part of the underground economy..it becomes a burden on the state. India has a lot of them it seems from the noise being made about them..

India would more than welcome those BDeshi professionals that want to pursue careers in India, students included through the legal channels.
Bangladesh obviously is one destination where Indian professionals seem to find opportunities outside of India and that's a good thing! Hence the remittances.

 

[scholseys]

We are talking about a few in the midst of many millions.

I have my doubts ISIS will find any big landfall in Bangladesh. I mean I can find even people from Tamil Nadu that have joined ISIS or are even in India still and are posting ISIS flags and messages in support (I have seen these pictures myself). But that doesn't mean that ISIS is going to be significant. Its simply another phase of the moon passing by. It has come, it will go...but moon (human nature + fundamentalism) will exist for a very long time.

If it turns into something huge and big in South Asia, then I will stand corrected. But the authorities and general populace will overall not sit idly by while that happens, as is the case with such forms of foreign origin extremism to begin with.

ISIS will be used as a leverage to negotiate with India and the Awami League, it is a pretext for American intervention in Bangladesh,

 

[Riyad]

Why India should worry about IS in Bangladesh

Shweta Desai | Fri, 15 Apr 2016-07:15am , New Delhi , dna


The Islamic State in its newly released mouthpiece Dabiq has announced its new front in Bangladesh and its use as a launching pad for guerrilla attacks in India.


Earlier in January, a co-ordinated intelligence operation in Maharashtra, Telangana, Karnataka, Uttarakhand and more recently in West Bengal led to arrests of over 20 young men from diverse age group and backgrounds. Connected through social media and secret chat rooms online, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) claims that these men aspired to establish the Indian module of the Islamic State group or ISIS. The Junood- e-Khalifa-e-Hind shaped by home grown radicals to launch jihadi attacks and bring IS's radical ideology in India was busted and locked in.

But the threat of jihad seems far from over and it is unlikely to come from within India but outside its borders in the neighborhood.

The Islamic State in its newly released mouthpiece Dabiq has announced its new front in Bangladesh and its use as a launching pad for guerrilla attacks in India. The declaration of the group's existence is Bangladesh is a part of the well etched propaganda meant to create fear and insecurity on IS's growing footprint but in no way are hollow warnings .

The 4100 km odd border that India shares with Bangladesh, partly running through the marshy Sunderbans, dense forests and equally densely populated and porous enclaves along West Bengal, Tripura, Assam, Mizoram and Meghalaya, is a known `problem area' and a weak spot in the robust border management. These borders have long been traversed for illegal human migration, contraband, arms, cattle smuggling, fake currency and used as easy gateways by local insurgents like United Liberation Front of Assam and Harkat-ul-Jihadi-Islami of Bangladesh (HUJI-B)

Now transnational jihadi groups including al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS) and its rival, the IS have made Bangladesh a new hunting ground. And the jihadi wars between the two to gain more recognition, recruits and popularity have started heating up since last year.

Ansarullah Bangla Team representing AQIS is waging a war against atheists and secular bloggers. So far the group has claimed responsibility for a string of attacks on Internet bloggers for mocking and criticising Islam. The most recent casualty was law student Nazimuddin Samad, who was killed last week near his university in Dhaka. The IS, replicating its strategy in Syria has murdered foreign nationals and non-Muslims, as it deems them as enemies of Islam.

The jihadis of IS and al Qaeda in Bangladesh appear to be members of local Islamist groups who are trying to cash in on the popularity of the new extremist groups. While the numbers and military capabilities of both IS and al Qaeda in Bangladesh are minimal, the acceptance of the former by its central leadership in Syria and its acknowledgement in the group's mouthpiece Dabiq may propel it to stage stellar attacks.

In IS's terminology India and its majority Hindu population is a legitimate target as apostate and enemies of Islam. In an earlier interview in Dabiq, the emir of IS Khorasan vowed to expand to Kashmir. Presence of several jihadi networks in the unruly Afghanistan-Pakistan region may undermine IS's ambition from reaching India and Kashmir from the north but the porous borders of Bengal to stage attacks in India and draw global recognition to its cause, will not be hard to cross for the soldiers of Khilafah in Bangladesh.


http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-why-india-should-worry-about-is-in-bangladesh-2202176

 

[Nilgiri]

ISIS will be used as a leverage to negotiate with India and the Awami League, it is a pretext for American intervention in Bangladesh,

Why would the US exactly care a big deal about Bangladesh...especially "intervening".

Their eyes are on other matters.

Why India should worry about IS in Bangladesh

Shweta Desai | Fri, 15 Apr 2016-07:15am , New Delhi , dna


The Islamic State in its newly released mouthpiece Dabiq has announced its new front in Bangladesh and its use as a launching pad for guerrilla attacks in India.


Earlier in January, a co-ordinated intelligence operation in Maharashtra, Telangana, Karnataka, Uttarakhand and more recently in West Bengal led to arrests of over 20 young men from diverse age group and backgrounds. Connected through social media and secret chat rooms online, the National Investigation Agency (NIA) claims that these men aspired to establish the Indian module of the Islamic State group or ISIS. The Junood- e-Khalifa-e-Hind shaped by home grown radicals to launch jihadi attacks and bring IS's radical ideology in India was busted and locked in.

But the threat of jihad seems far from over and it is unlikely to come from within India but outside its borders in the neighborhood.

The Islamic State in its newly released mouthpiece Dabiq has announced its new front in Bangladesh and its use as a launching pad for guerrilla attacks in India. The declaration of the group's existence is Bangladesh is a part of the well etched propaganda meant to create fear and insecurity on IS's growing footprint but in no way are hollow warnings .

The 4100 km odd border that India shares with Bangladesh, partly running through the marshy Sunderbans, dense forests and equally densely populated and porous enclaves along West Bengal, Tripura, Assam, Mizoram and Meghalaya, is a known `problem area' and a weak spot in the robust border management. These borders have long been traversed for illegal human migration, contraband, arms, cattle smuggling, fake currency and used as easy gateways by local insurgents like United Liberation Front of Assam and Harkat-ul-Jihadi-Islami of Bangladesh (HUJI-B)

Now transnational jihadi groups including al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent (AQIS) and its rival, the IS have made Bangladesh a new hunting ground. And the jihadi wars between the two to gain more recognition, recruits and popularity have started heating up since last year.

Ansarullah Bangla Team representing AQIS is waging a war against atheists and secular bloggers. So far the group has claimed responsibility for a string of attacks on Internet bloggers for mocking and criticising Islam. The most recent casualty was law student Nazimuddin Samad, who was killed last week near his university in Dhaka. The IS, replicating its strategy in Syria has murdered foreign nationals and non-Muslims, as it deems them as enemies of Islam.

The jihadis of IS and al Qaeda in Bangladesh appear to be members of local Islamist groups who are trying to cash in on the popularity of the new extremist groups. While the numbers and military capabilities of both IS and al Qaeda in Bangladesh are minimal, the acceptance of the former by its central leadership in Syria and its acknowledgement in the group's mouthpiece Dabiq may propel it to stage stellar attacks.

In IS's terminology India and its majority Hindu population is a legitimate target as apostate and enemies of Islam. In an earlier interview in Dabiq, the emir of IS Khorasan vowed to expand to Kashmir. Presence of several jihadi networks in the unruly Afghanistan-Pakistan region may undermine IS's ambition from reaching India and Kashmir from the north but the porous borders of Bengal to stage attacks in India and draw global recognition to its cause, will not be hard to cross for the soldiers of Khilafah in Bangladesh.


http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-why-india-should-worry-about-is-in-bangladesh-2202176

We are shivering.

 

[Riyad]

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Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami workers are joining Islamic State, the terrorist group says
News Desk, bdnews24.com

Published: 2016-04-15 03:00:48.0 BdST Updated: 2016-04-15 03:31:09.0 BdST

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Shaykh Abu Ibrahim al-Hanif, the so-called chief of IS fighters in Bangladesh, has made the claim in an interview to the latest issue of its propaganda magazine Dabiq.

Bangladesh government has been asserting that the leaders and workers of Jamaat, which opposed a secular Bangladesh’s independence from Islamic Pakistan in 1971, were engaged in militant activities. But the Islamist party has always refuted the allegations.

The group has claimed credit for several attacks in Bangladesh, including the murders of foreigners and attacks on Shias and Ahmadiyyas.

But the government and the security forces have denied the presence of the group in the country.

In the Dabiq interview published on Wednesday, Hanif was asked that with the government’s execution of several Jamaat leaders, had its followers taken a lesson?

Hanif replied that Jamaat leaders were facing the same fate as those of ‘sahwāt’ in Iraq and ‘the Ikhwān’ in Egypt, “as the sunnah of Allah never changes. He will humiliate and punish in this world and the Hereafter whoever abandons the religion and allies with the kuffār”.

“There are some grassroots level followers and supporters of “Jamaat-e-Islami” who have repented from their shirk and joined the ranks of the Khilāfah’s soldiers in Bengal, walhamdulillāh,” he added.

The cover of the latest Dabiq issue.

He claimed credit for some recent attacks in Bangladesh and said the IS targeted “the crusaders, the Rāfidah, the Qādiyāniyyah, the Hindus, the missionaries” in the attacks.

The so-called IS Bangladesh leader also termed ruling Awami League ‘pro-India’ and called its rival BNP ‘pro-Pakistan’.

The Dabiq issue claimed one ‘Abū Jandal’ from Bangladesh was among IS fighters who died in the Middle-East during training.

It identified Jandal as a son of an army officer who was killed during the 2009 BDR mutiny.

In the nine-page interview, Hanif said IS chose Bangladesh as its base in South Asia due to the country’s ‘important strategic geographic position’ and attacks in India and Myanmar would be coordinated from here.

India is not on the list of a number of countries, including some in Europe, that have suffered IS attacks.

Islamic State surfaced in the 2013 as the influence of al-Qaeda began to wane. It emerged as Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) by taking control of swaths of the countries and declared the so-called caliphate.

After being weakened by Russian airstrikes and advances by US-led and Syrian forces, the outfit has reportedly been conducting attacks in other countries. The attacks include those in Paris last November and the recent ones in Brussels.

http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2016...oining-islamic-state-the-terrorist-group-says

 

[Nilgiri]

Home > Bangladesh
Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami workers are joining Islamic State, the terrorist group says
News Desk, bdnews24.com

Published: 2016-04-15 03:00:48.0 BdST Updated: 2016-04-15 03:31:09.0 BdST

• 
  
  IS claims the persons in the photo published in Dabiq are members of its Bangladesh unit.

Previous Next
The grassroots followers of Jamaat-e-Islami, an organisation under pressure over the war crimes trial and the execution of its top leaders, are joining the Islamic State, the Middle-East-based group has claimed.








Related Stories

• IS threatens ‘Bangladesh-based’ India attacks

Shaykh Abu Ibrahim al-Hanif, the so-called chief of IS fighters in Bangladesh, has made the claim in an interview to the latest issue of its propaganda magazine Dabiq.

Bangladesh government has been asserting that the leaders and workers of Jamaat, which opposed a secular Bangladesh’s independence from Islamic Pakistan in 1971, were engaged in militant activities. But the Islamist party has always refuted the allegations.

The group has claimed credit for several attacks in Bangladesh, including the murders of foreigners and attacks on Shias and Ahmadiyyas.

But the government and the security forces have denied the presence of the group in the country.

In the Dabiq interview published on Wednesday, Hanif was asked that with the government’s execution of several Jamaat leaders, had its followers taken a lesson?

Hanif replied that Jamaat leaders were facing the same fate as those of ‘sahwāt’ in Iraq and ‘the Ikhwān’ in Egypt, “as the sunnah of Allah never changes. He will humiliate and punish in this world and the Hereafter whoever abandons the religion and allies with the kuffār”.

“There are some grassroots level followers and supporters of “Jamaat-e-Islami” who have repented from their shirk and joined the ranks of the Khilāfah’s soldiers in Bengal, walhamdulillāh,” he added.

The cover of the latest Dabiq issue.

He claimed credit for some recent attacks in Bangladesh and said the IS targeted “the crusaders, the Rāfidah, the Qādiyāniyyah, the Hindus, the missionaries” in the attacks.

The so-called IS Bangladesh leader also termed ruling Awami League ‘pro-India’ and called its rival BNP ‘pro-Pakistan’.

The Dabiq issue claimed one ‘Abū Jandal’ from Bangladesh was among IS fighters who died in the Middle-East during training.

It identified Jandal as a son of an army officer who was killed during the 2009 BDR mutiny.

In the nine-page interview, Hanif said IS chose Bangladesh as its base in South Asia due to the country’s ‘important strategic geographic position’ and attacks in India and Myanmar would be coordinated from here.

India is not on the list of a number of countries, including some in Europe, that have suffered IS attacks.

Islamic State surfaced in the 2013 as the influence of al-Qaeda began to wane. It emerged as Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) by taking control of swaths of the countries and declared the so-called caliphate.

After being weakened by Russian airstrikes and advances by US-led and Syrian forces, the outfit has reportedly been conducting attacks in other countries. The attacks include those in Paris last November and the recent ones in Brussels.

http://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/2016...oining-islamic-state-the-terrorist-group-says

What is your personal take on it bro?

 

[Riyad]

What is your personal take on it bro?

Geographically its not possible to have a base of Islamic state in Bangladesh because we are far far away from Islamic countries. Our country is surrounded by Hindu and Buddhist majority countries. I am also interested to know how IS has a base in Bangladesh.

 

[Nilgiri]

Geographically its not possible to have a base of Islamic state in Bangladesh because we are far far away from Islamic countries. Our country is surrounded by Hindu and Buddhist majority countries. I am also interested to know how IS has a base in Bangladesh.

Thats my position too. ISIS of course will say it is doing very well to stay relevant. I don't think Bangladesh has to worry so much about it....but of course keep the usual trained eye on the extremist nutjobs (who are a threat with/without ISIS factor).