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Nice! I love it! The very first step to my BB dream!
Is this an experimental rail gun on Chinese ship
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Heading towards Wusongkou 
Mark my words: you won't have to wait that long for laser gun
Mark my words: you won't have to wait that long for laser gun
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http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2017-10/10/content_33075939.htm
This news in October last year was credible indeed.
Technology feat gives Navy futuristic weapon
By Zhao Lei | China Daily USA | Updated: 2017-10-10 07:30
China has developed electromagnetic launch technologies that allow the People's Liberation Army to build a futuristic naval weapon described as game-changing - an electromagnetic railgun.
According to a news release from the PLA Naval University of Engineering in Wuhan, Hubei province, Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, the university's top researcher, has designed electromagnetic launch systems as part of "a key national defense program".
More than 100 Chinese experts in the field, including 40 academicians from the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Engineering, were "ecstatic" at a briefing when they saw what Ma had achieved.
Ma's team mastered the cutting-edge technology. Engineers continue to make breakthroughs in this regard, having designed several pieces of equipment and techniques that no one else in the world has created, the university said.
This is the first time that the Chinese military has officially confirmed its railgun program, though the release did not give further details about the program.
Based on electromagnetic force, a railgun uses a pair of conductive rails to launch projectiles and enables them to attain an extremely high speed. The projectile normally does not contain explosives as artillery shells do, but employs its strong kinetic energy generated by the high speed to inflict damage on a target.
This weapon is widely believed to be capable of revolutionizing future naval warfare as its power, range and speed are much better than explosive-powered guns currently mounted on combat ships, experts say.
Chen Hu, editor-in-chief of World Military Affairs magazine, said an electromagnetic railgun is able to carry out anti-ship and land attacks as well as aircraft and missile defense operations, enabling it to replace all the missiles and guns on a ship.
The United States is known for its funding for the research and development of railguns. The US Navy has tested a railgun several times at its Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division in Virginia that reportedly can fire a projectile at Mach 7, or seven times the speed of sound, and hit targets at least 160 kilometers away.
The United Kingdom and Japan have also opened research and development on railguns, according to report.
The US science and technology news magazine Popular Science said China has designed and tested at least one railgun prototype, but the PLA had never disclosed such information.
China became capable of deploying railguns on its ships because it has the ability to install an integrated electric-power system, a state-of-the-art technology on naval vessels that only a handful of countries possess, according to the PLA Naval University of Engineering. It noted this was also an achievement of Ma, who in July became one of the first 10 recipients of the PLA's top medal.
A naval weaponry researcher in Beijing who wished to be identified only as Cui said the integrated electric-power system will reshape the trend of combat vessels.
"It will allow electromagnetic railguns to be mounted on ships while current power systems can't handle the vast electricity consumption by the weapon. Ships with railguns will be much mightier than existing ones," he explained. "In addition, the new system will extensively reduce the noise of submarines as they move underwater, improving their fighting capability and survivability."
In an interview with China Central Television in May, Ma said the integrated electric-power system has been used on the nation's new-generation of nuclear submarines.
This news in October last year was credible indeed.
Technology feat gives Navy futuristic weapon
By Zhao Lei | China Daily USA | Updated: 2017-10-10 07:30
China has developed electromagnetic launch technologies that allow the People's Liberation Army to build a futuristic naval weapon described as game-changing - an electromagnetic railgun.
According to a news release from the PLA Naval University of Engineering in Wuhan, Hubei province, Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, the university's top researcher, has designed electromagnetic launch systems as part of "a key national defense program".
More than 100 Chinese experts in the field, including 40 academicians from the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Engineering, were "ecstatic" at a briefing when they saw what Ma had achieved.
Ma's team mastered the cutting-edge technology. Engineers continue to make breakthroughs in this regard, having designed several pieces of equipment and techniques that no one else in the world has created, the university said.
This is the first time that the Chinese military has officially confirmed its railgun program, though the release did not give further details about the program.
Based on electromagnetic force, a railgun uses a pair of conductive rails to launch projectiles and enables them to attain an extremely high speed. The projectile normally does not contain explosives as artillery shells do, but employs its strong kinetic energy generated by the high speed to inflict damage on a target.
This weapon is widely believed to be capable of revolutionizing future naval warfare as its power, range and speed are much better than explosive-powered guns currently mounted on combat ships, experts say.
Chen Hu, editor-in-chief of World Military Affairs magazine, said an electromagnetic railgun is able to carry out anti-ship and land attacks as well as aircraft and missile defense operations, enabling it to replace all the missiles and guns on a ship.
The United States is known for its funding for the research and development of railguns. The US Navy has tested a railgun several times at its Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division in Virginia that reportedly can fire a projectile at Mach 7, or seven times the speed of sound, and hit targets at least 160 kilometers away.
The United Kingdom and Japan have also opened research and development on railguns, according to report.
The US science and technology news magazine Popular Science said China has designed and tested at least one railgun prototype, but the PLA had never disclosed such information.
China became capable of deploying railguns on its ships because it has the ability to install an integrated electric-power system, a state-of-the-art technology on naval vessels that only a handful of countries possess, according to the PLA Naval University of Engineering. It noted this was also an achievement of Ma, who in July became one of the first 10 recipients of the PLA's top medal.
A naval weaponry researcher in Beijing who wished to be identified only as Cui said the integrated electric-power system will reshape the trend of combat vessels.
"It will allow electromagnetic railguns to be mounted on ships while current power systems can't handle the vast electricity consumption by the weapon. Ships with railguns will be much mightier than existing ones," he explained. "In addition, the new system will extensively reduce the noise of submarines as they move underwater, improving their fighting capability and survivability."
In an interview with China Central Television in May, Ma said the integrated electric-power system has been used on the nation's new-generation of nuclear submarines.
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And we got idiot claim those claim are boasting and tall order that never happen .http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/epaper/2017-10/10/content_33075939.htm
This news in October last year was credible indeed.
Technology feat gives Navy futuristic weapon
By Zhao Lei | China Daily USA | Updated: 2017-10-10 07:30
China has developed electromagnetic launch technologies that allow the People's Liberation Army to build a futuristic naval weapon described as game-changing - an electromagnetic railgun.
According to a news release from the PLA Naval University of Engineering in Wuhan, Hubei province, Rear Admiral Ma Weiming, the university's top researcher, has designed electromagnetic launch systems as part of "a key national defense program".
More than 100 Chinese experts in the field, including 40 academicians from the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Chinese Academy of Engineering, were "ecstatic" at a briefing when they saw what Ma had achieved.
Ma's team mastered the cutting-edge technology. Engineers continue to make breakthroughs in this regard, having designed several pieces of equipment and techniques that no one else in the world has created, the university said.
This is the first time that the Chinese military has officially confirmed its railgun program, though the release did not give further details about the program.
Based on electromagnetic force, a railgun uses a pair of conductive rails to launch projectiles and enables them to attain an extremely high speed. The projectile normally does not contain explosives as artillery shells do, but employs its strong kinetic energy generated by the high speed to inflict damage on a target.
This weapon is widely believed to be capable of revolutionizing future naval warfare as its power, range and speed are much better than explosive-powered guns currently mounted on combat ships, experts say.
Chen Hu, editor-in-chief of World Military Affairs magazine, said an electromagnetic railgun is able to carry out anti-ship and land attacks as well as aircraft and missile defense operations, enabling it to replace all the missiles and guns on a ship.
The United States is known for its funding for the research and development of railguns. The US Navy has tested a railgun several times at its Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division in Virginia that reportedly can fire a projectile at Mach 7, or seven times the speed of sound, and hit targets at least 160 kilometers away.
The United Kingdom and Japan have also opened research and development on railguns, according to report.
The US science and technology news magazine Popular Science said China has designed and tested at least one railgun prototype, but the PLA had never disclosed such information.
China became capable of deploying railguns on its ships because it has the ability to install an integrated electric-power system, a state-of-the-art technology on naval vessels that only a handful of countries possess, according to the PLA Naval University of Engineering. It noted this was also an achievement of Ma, who in July became one of the first 10 recipients of the PLA's top medal.
A naval weaponry researcher in Beijing who wished to be identified only as Cui said the integrated electric-power system will reshape the trend of combat vessels.
"It will allow electromagnetic railguns to be mounted on ships while current power systems can't handle the vast electricity consumption by the weapon. Ships with railguns will be much mightier than existing ones," he explained. "In addition, the new system will extensively reduce the noise of submarines as they move underwater, improving their fighting capability and survivability."
In an interview with China Central Television in May, Ma said the integrated electric-power system has been used on the nation's new-generation of nuclear submarines.
@Kiss_of_the_DragonIf its from CCTV and endorsed by top level CPC news. Very likely it’s real.
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It’s reported the gun is mounted on a 7,000 ton ship and not 4,000 ton. I don’t know other specs than that. It’s a game of guessing. Maybe we both can ask the PLA or Peng Liyuan. 500 MW to energize the gun is a realistic assumption. If less the distance of the projectile can travel will be shorter. The ship is basically a power generator plant loaded with fuel, transformers, condensators and other electric elements.
The gun consumes lots of energy hence mass and cost of a railgun ship is extremely high. Even superpower America is reluctant to develop such stuff.
It’s better the PLA tests in the waters of your new friend the Philippines.
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Believe it or not, the PLAN has up its sleeve an even bigger EM Gun that is yet to get shipborne.
Interesting time ahead.
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Either you are mad, or you lack of the common sense of the likely size of a 500MW power pack.
See this monster? It is one of the most powerful marine engine on the world, developed by MAN. I'm not sure about its exact size, but compared to the height of the workers working at the 2nd floor, I guess the height of the engine should be about 15meter. But even such a beast, its rated power is 75,570 kW, or 75MW. To achieve the 500MW that you mention, we need SEVEN units like this.
https://www.corporate.man.eu/en/pre...rd-Breaking-Engine-Enters-Service-252103.html
The following is the picture of the ship to mount the railgun. Do you believe the ship has the required internal space to carry seven units of the beast engines that shown above?
I believe this is a clear enough comparison. I don't mind if you want to continue to troll on the 500MW package joke.
of course this is expensive to the superpower America. They've spent 3.3% of its GDP on military already. But compared to China, China just spends 1.9% of the GDP on military, not just less than USA, even less than 2.3% of Vietnam. China has sufficient room to enhance the military spending further.
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No need to guess.
You have already stated that it ranges from "a few MW to 1000MW".
Why would you take the average and not start off from a few MW ?
Most probably 10 to 20MW would suffice.
The US railgun uses 30+ megajoules, so around 10MW.
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Don't worry, in the near future, China is planning to deploy several dozens of Type 055 all equipped with the railgun and laser weapon.
Shouldn't you just share some joy with us?
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Holy Sh!t !!!Believe it or not, the PLAN has up its sleeve an even bigger EM Gun that is yet to get shipborne.
Interesting time ahead.
Initially I think my forever love is the Russian Sovremennyy-class DDG, later my love switched to Type 054 FFG, then Type 051B and Type 052B, then Type 052C.
Even just few months before, I still believe my forever love is the beauty Type 052D, until I saw the picture of Type 055. I think the love on Type 055 should last for long; but two days back, I saw the picture of Haiyangshan landing ship with the rail gun. I told myself I need to be loyal to this new beauty! And now you told me we could expect a much bigger EM Gun!!! Oh my god! Oh my Chairman Mao!
I have to admire CPC!! Super nice job done by CPC!!
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Pls read the following with a pinch of salt 
PS From a guy who claimed to have seen EM gun in action
早前马伟明院士来我院讲坛（1月17号），我院是红山脚下、国防大学隔壁的一家科研院所（相信大家都知道是什么单位了），由于是部队单位，且级别很高（副大军区，改革前是正大军区），马院士讲了很多涉密的内容，并有一些现场实验的视频，其中包括这次刚在网络上爆出的电磁炮，在这我只说一些结论性的东西，应该不算泄密吧，哈哈。下面我就把我还记得的一些回忆一下：
1、关于电磁炮，我记得马院士讲的这炮就是电磁轨道炮，不是什么线圈炮，在马院士播放的视频里，主视角是炮，试验内容是从海上射击岸上目标，实验很成功，马院士说这个实验是全球首家。下一步将于2022年上055的后续舰型，并于2025年形成战斗力，055并不是目标舰，055的后续舰型，既加装了各种电磁武器的055A才是目标舰。
2、关于电磁弹射，马院士播放了，陆上成功弹射歼15和无人机的视频，时间好像是在15年。另马院士在课件上明确的写道2017年9月习主席亲自拍板决策下一艘航母使用电磁弹射。
3、关于电磁阻拦技术，已经攻克，很快就将进行路上实验（这个时间节点我记得不是很清楚了，因为是半个月前的讲座，且他讲了很多电磁武器的实验，我可能会记混，总之这个不是已经实验成功于17年12月，就是马上进行，今年上半年）
4、关于中压直流技术，马上会应用于054B上，今年开工，明年下水，比美帝的中压交流领先8到10年，他相信美帝最终也会走到中压直流的路子上来，当然这一点应该不是秘密了，媒体公开报道过。
5、关于全能舰，这个名字马院士斟酌了很久，早期管它叫做什么全电综合平台（记不清了），后来改成全能舰，现在最新叫法是“超能舰”，且有2个版本一个是2W到3W吨级别的，一个是8W到10W吨级别的，所谓超能舰，就是整合了各种电磁武器的全电平台，8W吨级所携带的武器数量和种类自然是要多于3W吨级的，马院士自己计算，超能舰的作战能力（火力），以3W吨级别为例，相当于美帝的一个大型航母编队，成本却只有其十分之一，未来建造30艘，并在各个大洋的个主要方向保持6艘左右的战略存在，即可完美破解美帝最新的抵消战略。当然这一设想目前还没得到高层和海军的赞同，毕竟是一个具有划时代意义的武器和战略设想，是否可行领导还很慎重，目前海军并未出钱支持超能舰的建设，马院士是拉到了地方船厂的赞助，将于今年开工建设3W吨级的超能舰，并于明年底下水。等实物出来之后，并做一些相关的实验来印证自己的想法，以进一步得到高层的支持。
6、马院士还提到了这些电磁武器在陆军和空军上的运用，这里不再赘述。
7、我记得的就是这么多了，当然马院士讲了很多，他手下的各个团队在电磁武器的各个领域进展都很快，成果丰硕，且他目前已经不再具体主持某一课题和项目，只是把一个方向，具体的攻关都是一些年轻人，这个团队真的是我军发展之福。
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PS From a guy who claimed to have seen EM gun in action
早前马伟明院士来我院讲坛（1月17号），我院是红山脚下、国防大学隔壁的一家科研院所（相信大家都知道是什么单位了），由于是部队单位，且级别很高（副大军区，改革前是正大军区），马院士讲了很多涉密的内容，并有一些现场实验的视频，其中包括这次刚在网络上爆出的电磁炮，在这我只说一些结论性的东西，应该不算泄密吧，哈哈。下面我就把我还记得的一些回忆一下：
1、关于电磁炮，我记得马院士讲的这炮就是电磁轨道炮，不是什么线圈炮，在马院士播放的视频里，主视角是炮，试验内容是从海上射击岸上目标，实验很成功，马院士说这个实验是全球首家。下一步将于2022年上055的后续舰型，并于2025年形成战斗力，055并不是目标舰，055的后续舰型，既加装了各种电磁武器的055A才是目标舰。
2、关于电磁弹射，马院士播放了，陆上成功弹射歼15和无人机的视频，时间好像是在15年。另马院士在课件上明确的写道2017年9月习主席亲自拍板决策下一艘航母使用电磁弹射。
3、关于电磁阻拦技术，已经攻克，很快就将进行路上实验（这个时间节点我记得不是很清楚了，因为是半个月前的讲座，且他讲了很多电磁武器的实验，我可能会记混，总之这个不是已经实验成功于17年12月，就是马上进行，今年上半年）
4、关于中压直流技术，马上会应用于054B上，今年开工，明年下水，比美帝的中压交流领先8到10年，他相信美帝最终也会走到中压直流的路子上来，当然这一点应该不是秘密了，媒体公开报道过。
5、关于全能舰，这个名字马院士斟酌了很久，早期管它叫做什么全电综合平台（记不清了），后来改成全能舰，现在最新叫法是“超能舰”，且有2个版本一个是2W到3W吨级别的，一个是8W到10W吨级别的，所谓超能舰，就是整合了各种电磁武器的全电平台，8W吨级所携带的武器数量和种类自然是要多于3W吨级的，马院士自己计算，超能舰的作战能力（火力），以3W吨级别为例，相当于美帝的一个大型航母编队，成本却只有其十分之一，未来建造30艘，并在各个大洋的个主要方向保持6艘左右的战略存在，即可完美破解美帝最新的抵消战略。当然这一设想目前还没得到高层和海军的赞同，毕竟是一个具有划时代意义的武器和战略设想，是否可行领导还很慎重，目前海军并未出钱支持超能舰的建设，马院士是拉到了地方船厂的赞助，将于今年开工建设3W吨级的超能舰，并于明年底下水。等实物出来之后，并做一些相关的实验来印证自己的想法，以进一步得到高层的支持。
6、马院士还提到了这些电磁武器在陆军和空军上的运用，这里不再赘述。
7、我记得的就是这么多了，当然马院士讲了很多，他手下的各个团队在电磁武器的各个领域进展都很快，成果丰硕，且他目前已经不再具体主持某一课题和项目，只是把一个方向，具体的攻关都是一些年轻人，这个团队真的是我军发展之福。
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