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Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?

Is Pakistan the heir to the Mughals?


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This is very interesting discussion. It is Allah's tariqa that he puts responsibility for Islam to a powerful racial group. But he takes it back when they degrade in terms of toughness and moral values. Jews were the chosen people for thousands of years. Allah asked them to fight but they said Allah and his Prophet should fight. So Allah made them wander in the deserts for 40 years so their next generation was tough. Then after getting power they left the right path and Allah says that they are Maghzoob i Alaihim in Sura i Fathiha. Then Allah chose Arabs and they led the Muslim society for hundreds of years. Then they were destroyed by the Mongols and the Kurds and then the Turks became leaders of the Muslims. The Mongols in turn became Muslims and Babar who was Mongol from his mother's side laid the foundation of the Mughal Empire. Iqbal says

فطرت کے مقاصد کی کرتا ہے نگہبانی
یا بندہء صحرائی یا مرد کہستانی

It is the Afghans who are the tough people in our generation. They have defeated three World Super Powers while the Mughal Empire was taken over by the British due to rulers like Mohammad Shah Rangeela
It has been reported that the Mughal court used to start at 1 pm because the Emperer used to attend Mushaera until 6 am and then sleep. While the British Rulers used to get up at 3-4 am and wind up their business by 1 pm.
So we have to see which nation wakes up at 4 am and starts working hard from morning till evening. Putting degraded Mughals into ceremonial roles will further degrade our already degraded political system. Secondly there is no place of Kingship in Islam. The first four Caliphs were chosen on the basis of merit.
.The unity of Pathan and Punjabis who are sons of the soil can give rise to a modern day empire as both of these village peoples are tough and get up at 4 in the morning and toil in their lands till sunset.. Already there are intermarriages between these two peoples and both are of Aryan stock.

The present day KPK was part of Punjab under the British and Sikhs before them. The British divided it in 1901 or 1903 into two provinces because of the danger of insurgency from the tribal area spreading into parts of Eastern Punjab.

We see that the Pathans and Punjabis are fused with each other in the Army and civilian bureaucracy. Tehrik e Insaf is led by Imran Khan who is a Punjabi Pathan ( Altough I disagree with him due to bad performance) and there are both Pashtun and Punjabi ministers in his cabinet
It is the wish of every racial group to lead but only those can sustain who are tough and able to fight. Let us wish that our descendants are capable enough to lead the Ummah..
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Apologies, heat of the moment but according to laws majority of mughals would be considered illegitimate/bastards
so what I am saying is true even if it sounds bad or politically incorrect

I take it back if I can but I am not exactly wrong
No problem. I mentioned it only because I find myself looking forward to your posts.

I wish I had a five-rupee note for every hasty post I posted.

He would be appalled to be separated from India, as if Muslim is a separate nationality.
You know, that is a very insightful remark. I say this in spite of his rather dismissive remarks about us poor SDREs.
 
You know, that is a very insightful remark. I say this in spite of his rather dismissive remarks about us poor SDREs.
Being dismissive about people, doesn't mean dismissing historical identity. My ancestral identity is Hindustani. I can be dismissive about people, but it is impossible to dismiss my ancestral identity, so your argument is not logical, it is emotional.
 
Apologies, heat of the moment but according to laws majority of mughals would be considered illegitimate/bastards
so what I am saying is true even if it sounds bad or politically incorrect

I take it back if I can but I am not exactly wrong
… And you have the stats of Mughal population and all their marriages. You can’t even provide evidence that all the birth in your ancestry were legitimate, considering the times, land where you lived was conquered and reconquered so many times, plus unlike Mughal families. Average poor person has little to no protection or access to Royal courts appointed religious scholars in mix Hindu society.
 
… And you have the stats of Mughal population and all their marriages. You can’t even provide evidence that all the birth in your ancestry were legitimate, considering the times, land where you lived was conquered and reconquered so many times, plus unlike Mughal families. Average poor person has little to no protection or access to Royal courts appointed religious scholars in mix Hindu society.
Stop the butthurt
And Read history, it's all over the place
Most of the mughals were bastards according to Shariah

Or maybe they don't teach you history in your slums ?
 
… And you have the stats of Mughal population and all their marriages. You can’t even provide evidence that all the birth in your ancestry were legitimate, considering the times, land where you lived was conquered and reconquered so many times, plus unlike Mughal families. Average poor person has little to no protection or access to Royal courts appointed religious scholars in mix Hindu society.

Looks like Mughal vs jatt fight is still continuing centuries later.
 
Stop the butthurt
And Read history, it's all over the place
No it’s not. If one or two King decides to bang random women, doesn’t mean 99 of his relatives are all banging Hindu women or setting marriages to them.

It’s just like claiming, that you are Muslim because Soldiers of Mughal army raped your ancestors during conquest.
 
No it’s not. If one or two King decides to bang random women, doesn’t mean 99 of his relatives are all banging Hindu women or setting marriages to them.

It’s just like claiming, that you are Muslim because Soldiers of Mughal army raped your ancestors during conquest.

Kanjaro, suba jummay di namaz di tyari karni chaye’di twanu, te tussi ek dujay di bund maran de chakar’an vich masroof’o.

So jao.
 
No it’s not. If one or two King decides to bang random women, doesn’t mean 99 of his relatives are all banging Hindu women or setting marriages to them.

It’s just like claiming, that you are Muslim because Soldiers of Mughal army raped your ancestors during conquest.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khokhar
Baba fareed, atleast 300-400 years before any wannabe ancestors showed up

You wouldn't have done crap, it was the others way around to fend of this problem they started recruiting these guys in Thier army- it helped
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Kanjaro, suba jummay di namaz di tyari karni chaye’di twanu, te tussi ek dujay di bund maran de chakar’an vich masroof’o.

So jao.
Alright enough for today... @Genghis khan1 lets call it a day...
 
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Looks like Mughal vs jatt fight is still continuing centuries later.
Idk he is jatt or whatever, jatt were peasants.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khokhar
Baba fareed, atleast 300-400 years before any wannabe ancestors showed up

You wouldn't have done crap, it was the others way around to fend of this problem they started recruiting these guys in Thier army- it helped
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Alright enough for today... @Genghis khan1 lets call it a day...
no baba converted you guys. Without the protection of swords, no baba would have done anything. Mughals Recruited everyone after defeating them.
 
Being dismissive about people, doesn't mean dismissing historical identity. My ancestral identity is Hindustani. I can be dismissive about people, but it is impossible to dismiss my ancestral identity, so your argument is not logical, it is emotional.
You do get that my reference was to Syed Ahmed Khan?

Oh please. :lol:



Who are SDREs ?
What the tall, fair, wheat-eaters call us - small, dark, rice-eaters.
 
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