Is Pakistan fighting undeclared 4th Generation war?

[RazPaK]

Thanks for the wonderful thread, nomi bhai.

It should be an eye opener for our resident libz on this site, but they are probably on somebody's payroll as well.

 

[*Awan*]

Purpose of this thread

America is among the best and efficient fighting machine.What distinguish them from others is they not only fight in battle field but they will also fight you in media,economy,diplomatically.They will destroy your image and reputation.
A fancy word for this multi dimensional approach is 4th generation warfare.Till now we discussed only one aspect "Military operations".bullet vs bullet tanks and fighter planes.i want you to discuss other aspects also.

-in order to counter the psychological warfare,can we start applying the concepts like "Fasad fil ard"

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption/ is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment, 5-33

O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.49-6

Then there, is a phenomena where we have people who hold key and influential position in our institutions but they have loyalties with our enemies or work for their agendas knowingly or unknowingly.how we can counter this thing?and what about those who work for them and we have identified them?

-When our religion asked us to have separate and independent judicial system from non muslims.like jews and christians have their own judicial system when state of madina was established.why we dont have this thing now?

-we accept that our God is not idot but very wise,not ignorant but very knowledgeable, He is not oppressor but very just and kind,we also believe that Quran is his word then why we don't implement Qsas as Allahh said in his book thatits your life.why not we implement justice, Eye for eye,teeth for teeth and blood for blood.and complain that judiciary has not punished a single terrorist in last 10 years

O you who have believed, prescribed for you is legal retribution for those murdered - the free for the free, the slave for the slave, and the female for the female. But whoever overlooks from his brother anything, then there should be a suitable follow-up and payment to him with good conduct. This is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy. But whoever transgresses after that will have a painful punishment. 2-178

And there is for you in legal retribution [saving of] life, O you [people] of understanding, that you may become righteous. 2-179

-Armies are used to defend and expand borders but stability in those borders comes from good administration,efficient management of resources and establishment of justice.Again and again so called Democracy failed to deliver these things.your opinion?

 

[*Awan*]

Party at American consulate:

Asma Shirazi and Saima mohsin Dancing in the Party at US Embassy Islamabad - Pakistan » Pakistani Scandals Scandals



Scholarships for our journalists.
USEFP :: The United States Educational Foundation in Pakistan

 

[batmannow]

there are few good conections in this thread, but however it shouldnt be meant as cyber taliban messge?
anyways!

 

[karan21]

Yes it is. This is the only thing that Zaid Hamid says is true. Pakistan is indeed being brought into 4th gen war.

 

[Slayer786]

Well we all know and have heard many times the conspiracy theories against Pakistan. It sends goose bumps down my body. But people usually tend to believe that it is all a myth and not the reality.
There is one article below which tells otherwise:

US Attempting to Trigger Color Revolution in Pakistan

As Pakistan reasserts national-sovereignty, the US responds with arming & backing Baluchi terrorists


Tony Cartalucci
Infowars.com
Friday, April 13, 2012


Carving up Pakistan by fomenting separatist movements along Pakistan’s western border has been on the US geopolitical drawing board for years. As reported in December 2011′s, “The Coming War With Pakistan:”

“In a 2006 report by the corporate-financier funded think tank Carnegie Endowment for International Peace titled, “Pakistan: The Resurgence of Baluch Nationalism,” violence starting as early as 2004-2005 is described. According to the report, 20% of Pakistan’s mineral and energy resources reside in the sparsely populated province. On page 4 of the report, the prospect of using the Baluchi rebels against both Islamabad and Tehran is proposed. In Seymour Hersh’s 2008 article, “Preparing the Battlefield,” US support of Baluchi groups operating against Tehran is reported as already a reality. As already mentioned, in Brookings Institution’s “Which Path to Persia?” the subject of arming and sending Baluchi insurgents against Tehran is also discussed at great depth.
The 2006 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace report makes special note of the fact that above all, the Baluchistan province serves as a transit zone for a potential Iranian-India-Turkmenistan natural gas pipeline as well as a port, Gwadar, that serves as a logistical hub for Afghanistan, Central Asia’s landlocked nations as well as a port for the Chinese. The report notes that the port was primarily constructed with Chinese capital and labor with the intention of it serving as a Chinese naval station “to protect Beijing’s oil supply from the Middle East and to counter the US presence in Central Asia.” This point in particular, regarding China, was described in extricating detail in the 2006 Strategic Studies Institute’s report “String of Pearls: Meeting the Challenge of China’s Rising Power across the Asian Littoral.” Throughout the report means to co-opt and contain China’s influence throughout the region are discussed.The Carnegie Endowment report goes on to describe how the Baluchi rebels have fortuitously begun attacking the development of their province over concerns of “marginalization” and “dispossession.” In particular attacks were launched against the Pakistani military and Chinese facilities. The question of foreign intervention is brought up in this 2006 report, based on accusations by the Pakistani government that the rebels are armed with overly sophisticated weaponry. India, Iran, and the United States are accused as potential culprits.
The report concludes that virtually none of Pakistan’s neighbors would benefit from the insurgency and that the insurgency itself has no possibility of succeeding without “foreign support.” The conflict is described as a potential weapon that could be used against Pakistan and that it is “ultimately Islamabad that must decide whether Baluchistan will become its Achilles’ heel.” This somewhat cryptic conclusion, in the light of recent reports and developments can be deciphered as a veiled threat now being openly played.”

Quite obviously, tensions between the US and Pakistan have only further deteriorated, with the West playing victim accusing Pakistan of “double dealing” them during America’s decade-long occupation of neighboring Afghanistan and frequent cross-border murder-sprees in Pakistani territory. Pakistan has more recently passed a resolution calling for the cessation of all US drone attacks on Pakistani soil. Additionally, as noted by geopolitical analyst Eric Draitser ofStop Imperialism, Pakistan has also prepared provisions to ban foreign bases on Pakistani soil and stem US covert terrorist activities inside Pakistan operating under the guise of “security contractors.”

US Prepares Armed Uprising
The US had frequently answered the reassertion of Pakistani national sovereignty with random drone attacks on civilian populations, but seems now to be shifting into gear for a full-blown destabilization of Pakistan’s Baluchistan province. Violence has notably increased in tandem with calls from Western politicians to support the “Free Baluchistan” movement and the establishment of an independent “Baluchistan” carved out of sovereign Pakistani territory.
The most astounding of these most recent calls is US Representative Dana Rohrabacher’s “Why I support Baluchistan” op-ed in the Washington Post. Rohrabacher cites the US State Department and Amnesty International – which in reality are one in the same – while accusing the Pakistani government of “violations of human rights.” He then, point-for-point, repeats the above mentioned corporate-financier funded US think-tanks regarding Baluchistan’s rich natural resources and the strategic location the province’s Gwadar seaport serves for the Chinese before admitting that Baluchistan’s brief period of autonomy resulted from the British Empire and the Persians carving it up as a buffer state.

Photo: In the 1980′s Rohrbacher (right) would actually travel to Afghanistan and “fight” alongside the Mujaheddin. It is also reported that he met Bin Laden and his foreign fighters – making him, like many others leading the fraudulent “War on Terror,” quite the hypocrite. The US use of proxy forces to ravage parts of the world is confirmed, and Rohrbacher’s direct role in such ploys is now also confirmed. US State Department-funded propaganda front Radio Free Europe in their article titled, “U.S. Lawmaker Questions Approaches To Pakistan, Afghanistan,” memorializes Rohrbacher’s role in the US-Soviet proxy war.
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Rohrabacher entirely reveals his hand and the disingenuous concern he hamfistedly feigns in regards to the Baluchi plight when he cites a laundry list of grievances the US has with the Pakistani government and concludes by holding the threat of developing “a closer friendship with India and, perhaps, Baluchistan” over the head of Islamabad. Clearly, just as the British did before them, the US fully plans on carving out a Baluchistan buffer-state to balk Pakistani-Chinese relations, destabilize Pakistan itself, and provide more pressure on Iran’s eastern border.

Video: A proposed Iranian-Pakistani-Indian pipeline which would travel through Pakistan’s Baluchistan province, would essentially render moot US sanctions on Iran and provide Central, Southwest, and East Asia with Iranian oil. There is now talk of Russia helping to implement the planned project – a project the West is apparently willing to start a war and “Balkanize” Pakistan over to prevent.
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One point Rohrabacher fails to mention is the planned Iranian-Pakistani-Indian pipleline which would in effect render moot all US sanctions and whose proposed path just so happens to pass through Baluchistan province. Such a pipeline would also converge with a planned logistical network being built by the Chinese from the province’s Gwadar port in the south all the way to the Chinese-Pakistani border in the north.

Image: Gwadar in the southwest serves as a Chinese port and the starting point for a logistical corridor through Pakistan and into Chinese territory. The Iranian-Pakistani-Indian pipeline would enter from the west, cross through Baluchistan intersecting China’s proposed logistical route to the northern border, and continue on to India. Destabilizing Baluchistan would effectively derail the geopolitical aspirations of four nations.
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Just like the US used fighters in the 1980′s in Afghanistan to fight a proxy war against the Soviets, the US is now planing to use Baluchi terrorists to wage war against both Pakistan and Iran. Rohrabacher is just the latest peddler of a geopolitical ploy long since predetermined, and echos verbatim of calls by Selig Harrison of the Soros-funded Center for International Policy, in editorials like “Free Baluchistan,” and “The Chinese Cozy Up to the Pakistanis.”
US Already Subverting Pakistani Governance in Baluchistan
As in all neo-imperial 4th generation warfare scenarios, arming militants is only half of the overall strategy for defeating targeted nation-states. Subverting national institutions and replacing them with those interlocking with the neo-imperial unipolar order is the other half. The usual suspects, the US State Department-funded National Endowment for Democracy (NED)and its various subsidiaries, found all across the theater of 4th generation global warfare, are busy at work in Pakistan’s Baluchistan province as well.

Images: In addition to the annual Fortune 500-funded “Balochistan International Conference,” the US State Department’s National Endowment for Democracy has been busy at work building up Baluchistan’s “civil society” network. This includes support for the “Balochistan Institute For Development,” which maintains a “BIFD Leadership Academy,” claiming to “mobilize, train and encourage youth to play its effective role in promotion of democracy development and rule of law.” The goal is to subvert Pakistani governance while simultaneously creating a homogeneous “civil society” that interlocks with the West’s “international institutions.” This is how modern empire perpetuates itself.
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NED has been directly funding and supporting the work of the “Balochistan Institute for Development” (BIFD) which claims to be “the leading resource on democracy, development and human rights in Balochistan, Pakistan.” In addition to organizing the annual NED-BFID “Workshop on Media, Democracy & Human Rights” BFID reports that USAID had provided funding for a “media-center” for the Baluchistan Assembly to “provide better facilities to reporters who cover the proceedings of the Balochistan Assembly.” We must assume BFID meant reporters “trained” at NED-BFID workshops.
Image: A screenshot of “Voice of Balochistan’s” special US State Department message. While VOB fails to disclose its funding, it is a sure bet it, like other US-funded propaganda fronts, is nothing more than a US State Department outlet. (click image to enlarge)
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There is also Voice of Balochistan whose every top-story is US-funded propaganda, including the above mentioned op-ed by Rohrabacher, foundation-funded Reporters Without Borders, Soros-funded Human Rights Watch, and a direct message from the US State Department. Like other US State Department funded propaganda outfits around the world -such as Thailand’s Prachatai – funding is generally obfuscated in order to main “credibility” even when the front’s constant torrent of obvious propaganda more than exposes them.

Image: Far from parody, this is the header taken from the “Baloch Society of North America.”
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Perhaps the most absurd operations being run to undermine Pakistan through the “Free Baluchistan” movement are the US and London-based organizations. The “Baloch Society of North America” almost appears to be a parody at first, but nonetheless serves as a useful aggregate and bellwether regarding US meddling in Pakistan’s Baluchistan province. The group’s founder, Dr. Wahid. Baloch, openly admits he has met with US politicians in regards to Baluchistan independence. This includes Neo-Con warmonger, PNAC signatory, corporate-lobbyist, and National Endowment for Democracy director Zalmay Khalilzad.
Dr. Wahid Baloch considers Baluchistan province “occupied” by both the Iranian and Pakistani governments – he and his movement’s humanitarian hand-wringing gives Washington the perfect pretext to create an armed conflagration against either Iran or Pakistan, or both, as planned in detail by various US policy think-tanks.
Should an escalation in violence spiral out of control and the US commit to the complete destabilization of Pakistan, it is a good bet Dr. Wahid Baloch’s face will be omnipresent on CNN, BBC, MSNBC, and the likes giving his “expert” opinion on humanitarian violations inside of Pakistan and the need for NATO to intervene. He may even be nominated by his US handlers as “President of Baluchistan” just as long-time US resident and BP, Shell, Total-funded Petroleum Institute chairman Abdurrahim el-Keib was in Libya.

Video: Featured on “Baloch Society of North America’s” website, Rohrbacher again openly admits that only now that the US needs a point of leverage against the Pakistanis has the “plight” of the Baluchi people become an issue – an issue that will be used to serve US geopolitical objectives throughout Central and Southwest Asia. Rohrbacher repeatedly states that the Pakistanis were “friends” of the US but are now “enemies.” The same could be said of the Afghan resistance he accompanied for 2 months in the 1980′s who are now being occupied and killed in droves by the US. The Baluchi opposition might take note of how quickly the US goes through its “friends.”
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There is also the Baloch Students Organisation-Azad, or BSO. While it maintains a presence in Pakistan, it has coordinators based in London. London-based BSO members include “information secretaries” that propagate their message via social media, just as US and British-funded youth organizations did during the West’s operations against other targeted nations during the US-engineered “Arab Spring.”
Image: A screenshot of a “Baloch Human rights activist and information secretary of BSO Azad London zone” Twitter account. This user, in tandem with look-alike accounts has been propagating anti-Pakistani, pro-”Free Baluchistan” propaganda incessantly. They also engage in coordinated attacks with prepared rhetoric against anyone revealing US ties to Baluchistan terrorist organizations.
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Geopolitical Implications
While Pakistan lies buried in the news and obfuscated with complexity regarding a myriad of tribes, difficult to pronounce names, confusing geography, and a culture many Westerners do not understand or appreciate, it also lies at the crossroads of China, India, and Iran. It represents a convergence of conflict between East and West with potentially catastrophic implications and even the prospect for a nuclear exchange.
China and Pakistan are more than aware of the West’s unfolding geopolitical gambit. China in no uncertain terms has declared that they and Pakistan will “stand with each other `in all circumstances’ and vowed to uphold their sovereignty and territorial integrity at all costs.” China by now realizes that what can be done to its immediate neighbors will inevitably be done to China itself. The West’s recent attack on Russia, meddling it its elections and attempting to trigger a color revolution within Moscow itself, reveals that Wall Street and London’s momentum forward is meant to carry them all the way to the end - into both Beijing and Moscow.
The West will continue to whittle away at nation-states around the world by attacking and dismantling indigenous national institutions and replacing them with their homogeneous “civil society” model. They will continue enticing all interested parties to find a comfortable place amongst their global order, while producing unpleasant penalties for all who resist. Such penalties range from economic sanctions to armed militant groups fighting proxy wars on Wall Street and London’s behalf.
What has developed, however, is a subtle but ever more apparent pattern of ultimate betrayal – meaning that many around the world are beginning to notice the West’s “carrot” is just as bad as the “stick” and regardless of which one that is chosen, the result is the same. A paradigm shift must be made, one from competing parties seeking superiority over one another, to a paradigm of solidarity. And while organizations like BRICS appear to be moving in this direction, at least for the sake of self-preservation, a paradigm shift toward solidarity must begin at the grassroots.
Individuals must make the conscious decision to no longer pay into Fortune 500 corporations and banks, recognize the consolidation of power for what it is and begin seeking human empowerment not through gimmicks like “democracy” and “human rights” but throughpragmatic solutions such as technical education, local industry and agriculture, collaborative research and development, and leveraging technology and our human ingenuity to improve our world through inventions and innovations instead of quotas, policies, and legislation.
Tony Cartalucci is the writer and editor at Land Destroyer Report
This article was posted: Friday, April 13, 2012 at 5:48 am

Source:© 2012 Infowars.com is a Free Speech Systems, LLC company.

 

[uahmed]

A war has already been declared against Pakistan. US, India, Afghanistan, NATO, Israel & allies are all part of this war which they have declared against Pakistan. Pakistan Army is busy on borders with the rented & puppet terrorists, corrupt & incompetent politicians have been placed in Pakistan by the US to destroy Pakistan & weaken Pakistan internally & the enemies of Pakistan are trying their very best to start a civil war in Pakistan, yesterdays explosion in Karachi was the latest example of how desperate Pakistan's enemies are to see Pakistan in civil war.

Today's only solution to save Pakistan is to declare Martial Law a full Military take over with ZERO tolerance & it is very important that these corrupt evil politicians & people must be punished. It is then Pakistan can move forward otherwise there is no chance. Military take over is the only solution today.

PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI, MQM, rented TTP, rented BLA, BLF & BSO are all enemies of the state.

So, half of the world is busy waging war against Pakistan. Why are we so special? Why wasn't this honor bestowed upon Iran or Russia or Congo? What will their victory in the war look like?

And if all the parties sitting in parliament as well as the anti-state elements are part of that war, why haven't the enemies won already? And if 90% of the Pakistan (the ones who vote these parties or support them) is aligned with the enemy, won't it be a good thing if the 'enemy' wins and 'Pakistan' loses?

And how will the military takeover help? If the next Pervez Musharraf is able to crush PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI, MQM, TTP, BLA, BLF, BSO, evil politicians, corrupt people; how many people will be left in Pakistan to move to the next assignment i.e. to crush India, US, Israel, Afghanistan, NATO, other alies?

 

[PakShaheen79]

Not only Zaid Hamid but people like Dr. Farruk Saleem are also saying the same things. His last few articles clearly indicate this

Chain of command


Farrukh Saleem
Thursday, November 15, 2012
From Print Edition


265 72 101 24

[Chain of command]

Pakistan is at war – at war to save its soul. The Pakistan Army is at war – at war to save Pakistan from its enemies



The Pak Army is an organised force raised and trained to respond to emergencies. The enemy has attacked. An order by a superior officer is an order to be obeyed. There is no leisure of time. This is not the corporate world. This is not a primetime talk show. It’s a matter of life and death – kill or be killed. Time is of essence.



There is no time to dissect or analyse the order. This is not a court of law. The army is all about obeying orders – immediately and without question.



Fact 1: In seventeen days of September 1965, a total of 3,800 Pak Army jawans and officers (as per neutral claims) embraced shahadat defending the country they loved. Over the past decade, twice that many have accepted martyrdom for the love of Pakistan – and the war still rages on demanding even more shaheeds in order to protect Pakistan from her enemies.



Question: In 2012, can we hold a single National Assembly session without the army securing Islamabad’s capital territory?



Pakistan is at war – at war to save its soul. The Pakistan Army is at war – at war to save Pakistan from its enemies. For the Pak Army to win this war – the longest and the bloodiest in its history – it needs three things: a strong chain of command, unit cohesion plus confidence of the Pakistani society in its armed forces.



The army’s most powerful weapon is its ‘chain of command’, the formalised ‘system within which authority passes down from the top through a series of military ranks in which each is accountable to the one directly superior’. Intriguingly, the army’s most powerful weapon is also its most vulnerable asset.



Organised warfare is now a science – military science. Unit cohesion is “the willingness to stick together on a mission.” Unit cohesion is all about two things: social cohesion and task cohesion.



Social cohesion is all about “emotional bonds of friendship, liking, caring and closeness” among the members of the armed forces.



And, task cohesion is all about the “shared commitment among members to achieving a goal that requires the collective efforts of the group.”



Unfortunately, the Pak Army’s ‘chain of command’ is under attack by other organs of the state – the state that is in a state of war.



Unit cohesion is under attack (this could lead to widespread insubordination, chaos, anarchy and disintegration of the state).



Unwittingly or consciously, episodes are underway that shake Pakistani society’s confidence in its armed forces – a society that is in a state of war. This will end up in nothing but disaster.



The mother of all questions is: Can the longevity of the State of Pakistan be guaranteed without a firm ‘chain of command’ being intact? Do we want a disciplined army? Do we want an effective army?



Military discipline, to be sure, is “built on the foundation of obedience to orders”. The army’s effectiveness, to be certain, is also “built on the foundation of obedience to orders”.



The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad. Email: farrukh15 *************

Chain of command - Farrukh Saleem

 

[PakShaheen79]

Here is another one ... more specific to topic

Capital suggestion...Generals


Dr Farrukh Saleem
Sunday, November 11, 2012
From Print Edition
What do the generals want? The Pakistan Army, like all other institutions, is a pyramid. But the Pakistan Army, unlike any other Pakistani institution, is the only Pakistani institution where soldiers rise from within to become commanding generals purely on the basis of merit. This military pyramid rests on two pillars: respect for the chain of command and the confidence of Pakistanis in their armed forces.

As of right now, Pakistan Army’s two serving generals, 22 serving lieutenant generals, 150 serving major generals for a total of 620,000 Pakistani soldiers are in a state of war. This is the longest – and the bloodiest – war that the Pakistan Army has ever fought. This war has multiple fronts – Tirah Valley, Shawal Valley, Wana, Miranshah, Mir Ali, Swat, Sararogha, Bajaur, Orakzai, Khyber and Kurram. This is a war where the distinction between a combatant and a non-combatant is blurring. This is a war where the distinction between a soldier and a civilian is blurring – even the distinction between war and politics is blurring. This war truly has all the characteristics of a 4G war.

Then there’s India with its ‘cold start military doctrine’. Then there’s the Indian army with its ‘Order of battle’, whereby at least half of all Indian army corps are stationed within a striking distance from the Pakistan-India border. The Indian army’s XV Corps with two infantry divisions in Srinagar, XIV Corps in Leh, XVI Corps with three infantry divisions, an artillery brigade and an armoured brigade in Nagrota, X Corps in Bhatinda, XI Corps in Jalandhar, IX Corps in Yol and II Corps in Ambala.

Remember, generals around the world respond to ‘capacity’ not ‘intent’. Pakistani generals look at the Indian Army and see its inventory of 6,384 tanks as a threat (since none of those Arjun MBTs can cross the Himalayas into China, they must all be for Pakistan).

Pakistani generals look at the Indian Air Force and see its inventory of 672 combat aircraft as a threat. Pakistani generals look at the Indian Army and find that XV, IX, XVI, XIV, XI, X and II Corps all pointing their guns at Pakistan. The Pakistani generals look at India’s 4th Armoured Division, 12th Infantry Division, 340th Mechanised Brigade and the 4th Armoured Brigade deployed to cut Pakistan into two halves.

As of right now, the Pakistan Army is fighting a deadly 4G war within and must, at the same time, stand prepared to defend Pakistan from the 3G threat from the east. In essence, the Pakistan Army is fighting at three different levels – physical, mental and moral. To be certain, the Pakistan Army cannot win on the physical battlefield unless it also wins the mental combat, the ‘will to fight’ and the ‘belief in victory’.

So, what do the serving generals want? The same thing that any serving general in a state of war would want – support from all other pillars of the state. So, what do the Pakistani generals need to guarantee the longevity of the Pakistani state? The same thing that any serving general in a state of war needs – esprit de corps, sense of unity, commonality of interests plus chain of command and the confidence of the public on the military.

As of right now, one retired general, five retired lieutenant generals and two retired major generals are on trial – both in the courts of the law and the media. What do the retired generals want? They don’t want to be convicted – either by the courts or by the media. Well, there shouldn’t even be any debate on this count – anyone who breaks the law must be held responsible and punished.

The writer is a columnist based in Islamabad. Email: farrukh15@hotmail.com

Capital suggestion...Generals - Dr Farrukh Saleem

 

[Cherokee]

You Guys Should Tell me about the Stuff you are Smoking Man . Seems to be a Lot of Hallucinations in this thread .

You Guys Should for Once start believing world DOES NOT revolves around Pakistan . That will be be a point to start .

best of Luck

 

[PakShaheen79]

A detailed article on 4GW and Indian CSD. It examines what enemy is trying to achieve through 4GW before launching deadly blow. It expands what Doctor Farrukh Saleem said in his article "Generals" (which i posted above).

Indian Cold Start: Analysis | Shahzad Roomi - Academia.edu

It contains so many pictures so can't copy paste it here.

 

[PakShaheen79]

You Guys Should Tell me about the Stuff you are Smoking Man . Seems to be a Lot of Hallucinations in this thread .

You Guys Should for Once start believing world DOES NOT revolves around Pakistan . That will be be a point to start .

best of Luck

Actually It does due to our geography and politics of regional geography ( or Geopolitics). Search for global geographical pivot and you will get some idea what kind of importance entire Indian subcontinent has. Pakistan and Afghanistan for access to global geographical pivot and India for Indian Ocean. And please don't say Indian Ocean is not the center stage of the 21st century!

 

[Cherokee]

Actually It does due to our geography and politics of regional geography ( or Geopolitics). Search for global geographical pivot and you will get some idea what kind of importance entire Indian subcontinent has. Pakistan and Afghanistan for access to global geographical pivot and India for Indian Ocean. And please don't say Indian Ocean is not the center stage of the 21st century!

It's Pacific Ocean . South China Seas will be the focal point of this Century and Arabs Have been killing each other for thousand of years . Nothing new about it . And Neither you People have oil nor a Flourishing Economy . So all i am saying is to get over the Obsession that EVERYONE is out to get you .

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Poor Pakistan. May the Almighty save you from these evil forces.Shame on America, Israel, India, the West and Russia. Shame on you evil conspirators who wish to destroy Pakistan. By the way, that switching of pictures of that girl accused of blasphemy was hillarious man. I mean they publicise a picture of an innocent looking little kid whereas the accused in reality is a plump chamki looking teen

 

[third eye]

A war has already been declared against Pakistan. US, India, Afghanistan, NATO, Israel & allies are all part of this war which they have declared against Pakistan. Pakistan Army is busy on borders with the rented & puppet terrorists, corrupt & incompetent politicians have been placed in Pakistan by the US to destroy Pakistan & weaken Pakistan internally & the enemies of Pakistan are trying their very best to start a civil war in Pakistan, yesterdays explosion in Karachi was the latest example of how desperate Pakistan's enemies are to see Pakistan in civil war.

Today's only solution to save Pakistan is to declare Martial Law a full Military take over with ZERO tolerance & it is very important that these corrupt evil politicians & people must be punished. It is then Pakistan can move forward otherwise there is no chance. Military take over is the only solution today.

PPP, PML-N, PML-Q, ANP, JUI, MQM, rented TTP, rented BLA, BLF & BSO are all enemies of the state.

Actually, as the world sees it - Pakistan is at war with itself.

A war in which Pak appears to be at war with its home grown fundamentalism which is eating into its vitals.

The fundamentalist do not have Islam in their minds but Islamabad in their sights.This is something ppl seem to be missing.

The suggested answer underlined above is a part of the problem. Its not for me as a non Pakistani to think & suggest answers that are workable in the Pak context. Only Pakistanis can & should.