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Is Pakistan facing bankruptcy?

Awesome Post Kumar. I hope Mr. AGNOSTIC MUSLIM and Mr. Munshi are reading this!!

I loved the statement -


"The rest of the world is discovering it will have to remake its financial systems," said Karachi-based economic analyst Haris Gazdar.

"Here, we have already realized that."

RIGHT!! ECONOMICS WAS DEVELOPED IN PAKISTAN AFTERALL

ROFL
 
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Wisdom Tree,

You really are the type of individual that both countries can do without - someone who revels in the perceived misery of others, and is really on this forum to just antagonize, flame and hijack discussions, by continuously harping upon whatever negativity you can dredge up about Pakistan.

You have no interest in constructive discourse or exchange of ideas, otherwise you would have actually answered my post about providing rebuttals to the posts that answer questions you continue to repeat.

You were banned before, and I can see that you really have no interest in changing.

Ciao.
 
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"Over My Dead Body!" - Tareen on Pakistani Default

Agriculture, real estate to be taxed: Tareen


By Anwar Iqbal


WASHINGTON, Oct 13: Prime Minister’s Adviser on Finance Shaukat Tareen pledged on Monday that the government would bring all sectors, including agriculture, under the tax net to strengthen the national economy.

“There will be no sacred cows,” said Mr Tareen while addressing a news conference after attending the annual meetings of the World Bank and the IMF in Washington.

“Not even agriculture?” he was asked. “No sacred cows. Real estate, agriculture, all will be taxed.”

Mr Tareen categorically rejected speculative reports in the western media claiming that Pakistan is on the brink of bankruptcy. “Over my dead body,” said Mr Tareen when asked if Pakistan would go bankrupt.

Mr Tareen said the government had increased electricity tariff by 31 per cent, instead of the required 62 per cent.

“We decided to look back at further increase later and now that fuel prices are coming down, it will also reflect in energy policies. We may not have to further increase power rates.”

The adviser said that the government could raise remittances by overseas Pakistani by $1.5-2 billion a year through procedural changes.

This, he said, would be done by asking countries like Saudi Arabia and UAE to allow Pakistanis to send their money through the host governments instead of private banks, which are expensive.

Mr Tareen said that while the State Bank was looking at measures to help the stocks market, “We are not here to protect a particular player but to create liquidity”.

The stock brokers, he said, were complaining that they were not getting loans from banks against their shares and collaterals.

“Complaints like this will be looked into,” he added.

Mr Tareen also rejected rumours that the government had asked for information on bank lockers or was freezing assets. “Absolutely wrong. All nonsense,” he said.

The adviser had a series of meetings with the World Bank, IMF, Islamic Development Bank and the British Department for International Development.

He also met finance ministers of several countries attending the meetings and also with senior officials of other international financial institutions.

“We are facing economic challenges, both on the fiscal side and on the balance of payment,” he said. “We did not pass on the increase in fuel and food prices on time.”

Mr Tareen said the fiscal deficit stood at 7.4 per cent last year, but came down to 4.3 per cent due to the steps taken by the elected government.

The absence of inflows from multilateral agencies, lack of foreign direct investment, and the inability to access the international financial markets contributed to this crisis, he said.

The trade gap, he said, was over $20 billion last year and the current accounts deficits was a billion a month.

“It is quite a challenging job,” said Mr Tareen. “What the government has done is to pass on the increase in prices.”

The tax and GDP ratio, he said, was 10.5 per cent and extremely low. Mr Tareen said the government was trying to deal with this by cutting down expenditure and by encouraging private-public sector partnership.

“Money could be used for poverty elevation, education and health.”

Mr Tareen said help from the IFIs was forthcoming while the Friends of Pakistan group was meeting in Abu Dhabi next month to consider proposals for helping Pakistan.

The government, however, had also drawn back-up plans to ensure that even if this assistance did not come on time, the country had enough to meet its requirements and to move forward in an orderly manner.

As short-term measures, the government is trying to correct imbalances in macroeconomic indicators and is also working on eight or nine initiatives to move the country forward. These include safety net, income support fund, skilled-based training, health insurance and employment.

“We will focus on agriculture to eliminate food shortage and create employment opportunities,” said Mr Tareen.

The third area of concentration would be making trade and manufacturing more competitive, balancing exchange rate, through RTC, introducing bankruptcy laws and making the industry more competitive. The government is also working on human resources development.

Encouraging public-private partnership, integrated energy policy. For dealing with power and gas shortages, mineral resources, not explored or utilized yet such as coal, copper, will be developed.

Capital market reforms and administrative reforms will also be undertaken.
Agriculture, real estate to be taxed: Tareen -DAWN - Top Stories; October 14, 2008
 
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Remittances soar 25% to $1.88 bln in first quarter

KARACHI: Remittances sent home by overseas Pakistanis continued to show a rising trend as $1,879.86 million was received in the first quarter (July-September, 2008) of the current fiscal year 2008-09.

This represents an increase of dollars $378.61 million, or 25.22 per cent over the same period of the last fiscal year.

The $1,879.86 million amount includes $0.11 million received through encashment and profit earned on Foreign Exchange Bearer Certificates (FEBCs) and Foreign Currency Bearer Certificates, said State Bank of Pakistan (SBP) statement here on Tuesday.

During the last month, Pakistani workers remitted a record amount of $660.35 million, up $144.3 million or 27.96 per cent when compared with the amount of $516.05 million sent home in September, 2007.

The previous highest amount remitted in a single month by Pakistani workers was recorded in July 2008, when an amount of 627.21 million dollars was received in the country.

The inflow of remittances in the July-September 2008 period from USA, Saudi Arabia, GCC countries (including Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar and Oman), UAE, UK and EU countries amounted to $499.65 million, $398.02 million, $315.37 million, $312.18 million, $118.57 million and $51.78 million, respectively as compared to $420.90 million, $294.99 million, $217.14 million, $237.39 million, $119.91 million and $ 44.78 million, respectively in the July-September, 2007 period.
Remittances received from Norway, Switzerland, Australia, Canada, Japan and other countries during the first three months of the current fiscal year 2008-09 amounted to $184.18 million as against $165.51 million in the same period last year.

The monthly average of remittances for the period July-September, 2008 comes out to $626.62 million as compared to $500.42 million during the corresponding period of the last fiscal year, registering an increase of 25.22 per cent.

The inflow of remittances into Pakistan from almost all countries of the world increased last month as compared to September, 2007.

DAWN.COM | Business | Remittances soar 25% to $1.88 bln in first quarter
 
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Pakistan rupee hits 83 against US dollar : Business


Pakistan rupee hits 83 against US dollar


Karachi - The prolonged rumours of a Pakistani default with international creditors sent the rupee heading downward Tuesday. At one point it hit a record low of 83 against the US dollar, traders said. As the trading day closed, it stood at 81/81.50 against the dollar in the open market. That compares with its 80/80.40 close on Monday.
A reported severe shortage of dollar prompted the market gyrations.
"Some who have vested interest and have nefarious design to destabilize the rupee quoted up to 83," said Nabeel Iqbal, research director at Khannai and Kalia, the country's largest foreign exchange firm.
There was a run on banks and exchange companies soon after Pakistan's two leading news channels, GEO and CNBC, flashed news of the rupee's loss in value.
The rupee also slipped in the interbank market to 81/81.50 against the dollar, versus 79.37/79.42 on Monday.
"In two to three weeks the situation could worsen if Pakistan does not receive any foreign aid, as the country's debt and corporate payments are maturing from November," Iqbal said.
Pakistan's foreign exchange reserves have been halved in the last six months. The central State Bank of Pakistan's own reserves have plunged to 4.68 billion dollars, barely enough to meet one month of imports.
Tuesday's late decline in the rupee was surprising, given a central bank report showing a 25 per cent increase in remittances from Pakistanis living abroad.
Pakistan gets around 6.5 billion dollars each year from over 3 million Pakistani expatriate workers, mostly from the United States and the Middle East.
The rupee has depreciated by around 25 per cent since January. The country's external debt servicing cost is 3 billion dollars a year, including 500 million dollars set to mature in February.

Pakistan rupee hits 83 against US dollar
 
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I believe it will be a dark day when agriculture in Pakistan is taxed. A majority of our population livin in rural areas, and are either farmers, farmhands, or gain indirect benefit and sustenance from agriculture.

It would be a travesty and a mistake to implement such a tax.

While the most successful countries on earth are giving huge subsidies to their farmers ( USA subsidises its farmers with around 25 billion dollars (only 2 percent of its population resides on farm land), EU to the tune of 133 billion dollars, Japan 49 billion dollars, the list goes on and on) we are trying to re invent the wheel by instead taxing our farms?

The PPP govt of the 70's nationalised most pvt institutions and business, destroying most of our manufacturing industry in the process. Is this govt hell bent on doing the same to our agricutlural industry?

This sorry excuse for a tax policy will only push prices up, make our farming less competetive against foreing competition, and actually increase the chances of us importing even more food. What will happen to our foreign reserves then?? We are already a net importer of food, and they want to tax our local agriculture?

This would make me laugh, if it didn't make me so angry.
 
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i have said this a billion times and I will say it again. If the President wants his 100 billion dollars all he must do is end the corruption in Pakistan. But to do this great will power and sincerity to the people and the country is needed. And it pains me to say we have no leader capable of taking on and completing such a task.
 
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Report: Pakistan on Brink of Collapse


Report: Pakistan On Brink Of Collapse

By Jason Leopold
The Public Record
Tuesday, October 14, 2008

A highly classified National Intelligence Estimate warns that increased violence, massive energy and food shortages and political instability threatens to destabilize Pakistan, according to a report published Tuesday in McClatchy Newspapers.

“A U.S. official who participated in drafting the top secret National Intelligence Estimate said it portrays the situation in Pakistan as "very bad," McClatchy reported. “Another official called the draft "very bleak," and said it describes Pakistan as being "on the edge."

The economic crisis in Pakistan has forced millions of people into poverty, which experts fear make them ripe for Islamic extremists to recruit.

Over the past year, the cost of wheat, rice and milk has skyrocketed. Economists have warned that prices will increase further if Pakistan defaults on its foreign debt. Prior to Pakistan's economic downfall, one-third of the country's 56 million residents lived below the poverty line. Millions more are said to have fallen into economic hardship.

The dire situation inside Pakistan, a country that the U.S. counted as a strategic ally in the so-called global war on terror, is due, in part, to an al-Qaeda backed insurgency and the Pakistani Army’s unwillingness to cooperate with the U.S. and crackdown on the terrorist organization, McClatchy reported.

“The estimate says that the Islamist insurgency based in the Federally Administered Tribal Area bordering Afghanistan, the suspected safe haven of Osama bin Laden and his top lieutenants, is intensifying,” McClatchy reported.

The NIE, classified reports prepared for President George W. Bush, Congress and other officials, by 16 U.S. Intelligence agencies, are also being drafted on Iraq and Afghanistan. Those reports are being prepared to assist a new administration on the resources needed to continue military operations in those countries.

“The Afghanistan estimate warns that additional American troops are urgently needed there and that Islamic extremists who enjoy safe haven in Pakistan pose a growing threat to the U.S.-backed government of Afghan Prime Minister Hamid Karzai,” McClatchy reported.

Earlier this month, Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that without immediate economic and political stability in Afghanistan the security situation will continue to deteriorate.

"The trends across the board are not going in the right direction," Mullen told reporters "It will be tougher next year unless we get at all these challenges."

Gen. David McKiernan, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, said earlier this month that a shortage of troops means the situation in Afghanistan "might get worse before it gets better."

"We're in a very tough fight," McKiernan said

Still, “the three NIEs suggest that without significant and swift progress on all three fronts — which they suggest is uncertain at best — the U.S. could find itself facing a growing threat from al Qaida and other Islamic extremist groups, said one of the officials,” according to the McClatchy report.

Pakistan’s former president, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, received tens of billions of dollars in U.S. aid since 9/11 in exchange for a promise to crackdown on al-Qaeda in his country, resigned, rather than face impeachment for leading the country into a grave economic crisis.

Asif Ali Zardari, the widower of the late Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, was elected Pakistan’s new president.
 
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^^^ A little alarmist, and covers the same issues that have been discussed here already:

A highly classified National Intelligence Estimate warns that increased violence, massive energy and food shortages and political instability threatens to destabilize Pakistan, according to a report published Tuesday in McClatchy Newspapers.

I think political instability is slowly becoming less and less of an issue, as the political parties seem to be settling down. The PML-N led opposition, despite its criticism of the GoP's ops. in FATA, has nonetheless not made any moves to bring down the government, or made any noises to that effect, nor can it really act on such a threat at this time since it lacks the numbers in parliament.

Nawaz Sharif in fact made a timely statement yesterday that the PML-N supports the GoP's war against terror, though it has concerns over the overall policy.

Inflation was down four points this past month, but we will have to wait and see if that develops into a trend or not, IMO not possible unless the devaluation of the Rupee is arrested. Energy and food shortages (not as bad as a few months ago) exist, but there are no quick fixes for those, though some projects have been set into motion.
 
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Kumar, offer some opinions with your posts as well.

Its ok to post an article here and there without comments, but highlight relevant parts or post comments so that the reader knows what exactly your point is - and headlines do not count.
 
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I believe it will be a dark day when agriculture in Pakistan is taxed. A majority of our population livin in rural areas, and are either farmers, farmhands, or gain indirect benefit and sustenance from agriculture.

It would be a travesty and a mistake to implement such a tax.

While the most successful countries on earth are giving huge subsidies to their farmers ( USA subsidises its farmers with around 25 billion dollars (only 2 percent of its population resides on farm land), EU to the tune of 133 billion dollars, Japan 49 billion dollars, the list goes on and on) we are trying to re invent the wheel by instead taxing our farms?

The PPP govt of the 70's nationalised most pvt institutions and business, destroying most of our manufacturing industry in the process. Is this govt hell bent on doing the same to our agricutlural industry?

This sorry excuse for a tax policy will only push prices up, make our farming less competetive against foreing competition, and actually increase the chances of us importing even more food. What will happen to our foreign reserves then?? We are already a net importer of food, and they want to tax our local agriculture?

This would make me laugh, if it didn't make me so angry.

You have a point there abt agri not being taxed.

In India, the easiest way to skirt taxes is to show " agri income", most of the rich do this in the bargain the salaried class bears the brunt with no way around.

Am not aware of the tax laws in Pak, but shouldn't taxes be linked with land holding ? & the amount of agri income shown in tax returns be linked with the holding? After all there is only that much a hectare of land commercial terms.
 
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I believe it will be a dark day when agriculture in Pakistan is taxed. A majority of our population livin in rural areas, and are either farmers, farmhands, or gain indirect benefit and sustenance from agriculture.

It would be a travesty and a mistake to implement such a tax.

While the most successful countries on earth are giving huge subsidies to their farmers ( USA subsidises its farmers with around 25 billion dollars (only 2 percent of its population resides on farm land), EU to the tune of 133 billion dollars, Japan 49 billion dollars, the list goes on and on) we are trying to re invent the wheel by instead taxing our farms?

The PPP govt of the 70's nationalised most pvt institutions and business, destroying most of our manufacturing industry in the process. Is this govt hell bent on doing the same to our agricutlural industry?

This sorry excuse for a tax policy will only push prices up, make our farming less competetive against foreing competition, and actually increase the chances of us importing even more food. What will happen to our foreign reserves then?? We are already a net importer of food, and they want to tax our local agriculture?

This would make me laugh, if it didn't make me so angry.

The international banks lends money to the Pakistan. The government of Pakistan spends the money in a way which makes the landlords happy in the short term, but does not increase the country's ability to repay the funds lent.

When the International banking system asks for payment the landlords squeezs the poor farmer who is already suffering due to inflation .

for him, Taliban becomes a good option and this struggles between forces again pushes the economy plumbing southwards .

only a great leadership can bring back hope ..
 
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the Rs has touched 83 to the $
we r screwed!!!!
 
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The international banks lends money to the Pakistan. The government of Pakistan spends the money in a way which makes the landlords happy in the short term, but does not increase the country's ability to repay the funds lent.

When the International banking system asks for payment the landlords squeezs the poor farmer who is already suffering due to inflation .

for him, Taliban becomes a good option and this struggles between forces again pushes the economy plumbing southwards .

only a great leadership can bring back hope ..

Thats an extremely simplistic and flawed analysis of the situation, especially where you try and weave in the Taliban, which remains a movement isolated to certain sections of Pakistan.

Given the hundreds of thousands of farmers who have been committing suicide every year in India, one woudl think your logic would have meant that India was awash in Hindu extremists - but perhaps you are correct, your theory might explain the recent communal violence and riots across India.

The farmers want their pound of flesh.
 
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