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Is MS Dhoni the best captain in the world right now.

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no doubt Dhoni is good captain but he is not better than Ponting....

Ponting is the best captain in the world right now........ :tup:
 
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no doubt Dhoni is good captain but he is not better than Ponting....

Ponting is the best captain in the world right now........ :tup:

One point to note is, When runs are required, dhoni hardly performs. He usually perform when playing the first innings or the other players already done a lot of damage. He does not play well under pressure

But Ponting and Smith has performed under pressure a lot of times. That makes them better captain. I would rank Smith below Dhoni only because of the consistancy of Dhoni otherwise in my opinion even Smith is a better captain when you see overall
 
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Dhoni is better because he took over during hard times from ganguly while ponting was blessed with a team full of talents including bretlee, mcgrath, hayden and co from the legendary Steve waugh.

They were sitting up top and ended up down during his time while Dhonis graph was upwards.

Always the better ones are that makes a team better and make it reach higher.
 
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Dhoni is better because he took over during hard times from ganguly while ponting was blessed with a team full of talents including bretlee, mcgrath, hayden and co from the legendary Steve waugh.

They were sitting up top and ended up down during his time while Dhonis graph was upwards.

Always the better ones are that makes a team better and make it reach higher.

yeah i agree with that. Ponting got cherry on the cake. Steve and Campbell had already nourished this team before ponting.

But in Dhoni's case, he got the talented player but he made them a one unit. Credit goes to dhoni for this wonderful job and that is why i always call him India's best captain ever
 
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lets see what will Afridi do in tests..... he is very hard working and fighting Captain....:tup:

@Zaki bhai: yeah Smith is also good captain and dont forget Sangakara and Vettori....:)
 
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yeah i agree with that. Ponting got cherry on the cake. Steve and Campbell had already nourished this team before ponting.

But in Dhoni's case, he got the talented player but he made them a one unit. Credit goes to dhoni for this wonderful job and that is why i always call him India's best captain ever

The threads is about the one right now in the world not about who is all time.

So its proven because ICC chosen Dhoni for odi and test teams of world.

Dhonis record speaks for himself.
 
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The interim captain Suresh Raina failing in zimbabwe loosing to Zimbabwe 2 times and Dhoni coming back and winning the Asia cup speaks the volume of leadership skills.
 
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irrelevant and baseless, Wisden test XI proves every thing right? :rofl: i don't even know how this proves that Dhoni is a better captain against record holder RickyPonting unless a person is too delusional to believe that.
Wisden you mentioned haan? well here is the list of the best players in last 4 years & this list was prepared by Prestigeous Wisden it self :rolleyes:
2006 Matthew Hoggard Simon Jones Brett Lee Kevin Pietersen Ricky Ponting
2007 Paul Collingwood Mahela Jayawardene Mohammed Yousuf Monty Panesar Mark Ramprakash
2008 Ian Bell Shivnarine Chanderpaul Ottis Gibson Zaheer Khan Ryan Sidebottom
2009 James Anderson Dale Benkenstein Mark Boucher Neil McKenzie Claire Taylor
2010 Stuart Broad Michael Clarke Graham Onions Matt Prior Graeme Swann

My eyesight must be getting weak why can't i find Dhoni & Sehwag?:lol:

unfortunately i do think that u need an eye specialist
The Wisden Cricketers of the Year are cricketers selected for the honour by the annual publication Wisden Cricketers' Almanack, based primarily on their "influence on the previous English season.
So the list that u mentioned only takes into account the ENGLISH SEASON:hitwall: did u think for a moment that Graham Onions or matt prior are the best:hitwall:
Now read this

The Wisden Test XI
Scyld Berry

We introduce the Wisden Test XI. The aim is to recognise the best Test cricketers of the calendar year, and to endorse Test cricket as the highest, most skilled, form of the game, the least subject to the intrusion of time

The criteria for selection are simple: the best eleven to play a Test match, no matter the opposition, guided by performances , and taking into consideration the amount of Test cricket they played in the year, the quality of their opponents, and that indefinable blend of class and form.

The three selectors cover the globe and the game's disciplines. They are Ian Bishop, the fast bowler who played 43 Tests for West Indies; Ravi Shastri, who played 80 Tests for India, initially as a left-arm spinner and later as an opening batsman; and Ian Smith, who kept wicket for New Zealand in 63 Tests. Shastri and Smith also captained their countries briefly, while Bishop regularly led Trinidad & Tobago. All three now watch cricket around the world as television commentators.

Unlike other selection panels, this one is an open forum and we can hear the reasoning. In the case of six players, the selectors were unanimous. In three cases there was a 2-1 majority. In the other two, the three selectors each voted for a different player, and the editor - as convener of this panel - had the casting vote. Sadly, Pakistan did not play a Test match during the whole year, which ruled their players out of consideration.

The opening pair were unanimously agreed to be Virender Sehwag and Graeme Smith, the two leading Test run-scorers of 2008. They were also the two fastest scorers of those who played regularly (Tillekeratne Dilshan had two field days against Bangladesh). Honourable mention was made of Gautam Gambhir, Sehwag's opening partner for India, who averaged 70 against formidable opposition; and in a strong era for left-handed openers, Chris Gayle, Simon Katich and Andrew Strauss were also notable. But Smith was the pick.

At No. 3, Ricky Ponting, although he enjoyed one of his lesser years, was the choice of Shastri and Smith; Bishop, who tended to opt for the younger player in marginal selections, preferred Hashim Amla for "his growth and maturity". Shastri noted that Ponting in 2008 had finally scored a Test hundred in India and "was less scratchy against spin this time, playing later and with softer hands rather than going hard at the ball as on previous tours". Ponting would field at second slip in the Wisden Test XI, beside Graeme Smith at first.

Sachin Tendulkar secured the votes of Shastri and Smith to be No. 4, while Bishop went for the promise (and all-round fielding) of A. B. de Villiers, although he would have batted at No. 6 in Bishop's team. Shastri's reasoning: "Tendulkar scored two 150s in the back yard of the best team in the world," as Australia still were in January 2008. Later, in December, Tendulkar put the finishing touch to his CV, the match-winning fourth-innings hundred against England at Chennai.

Kevin Pietersen was a unanimous choice at No. 5, and the only England player to be chosen. (Honourable mention was made of Andrew Flintoff as an all-rounder, but he missed more than half England's Tests through injury and scored only one fifty.) Mahela Jayawardene was a strong contender for the No. 5 position, but it was felt he needed to score more runs outside Sri Lanka.

Shivnarine Chanderpaul was another unanimous choice. As Bishop put it: "Sheer weight of runs and a great strength of character make him a no-brainer for this team. It is a phenomenal effort to average over 100 in Tests in a year, and Chanderpaul made it his second in a row." (He averaged 111.60 in 2007, and 101 in 2008.) Shastri noted that he glues the lower order and makes runs in all conditions, from seaming pitches in England to spitting turners in Asia and indifferent tracks at home.

Mahendra Singh Dhoni was the unanimous choice as wicketkeeper and No. 7. He also won the votes of Bishop and Shastri as captain. Bishop selected him because of "his charisma, which seems to permeate the Indian dressing-room and bring the best out of his team"; he also noted that India lost in Sri Lanka when Dhoni sat out the series. Among other reasons, Shastri liked "the way he handles the media in a media-frenzied country, and is immensely composed". Smith, however, gave his vote as captain to Graeme Smith: South Africa's victory over Australia in Australia "sealed the deal".

As the sole spinner (assuming normal conditions), Harbhajan Singh won a three-way tie on the convener's casting vote. He was Smith's choice, for taking 63 wickets in the year and his part in "two very hard series against Australia where he did not back down". Smith also argued, persuasively, that the two Sri Lankan mystery spinners played insufficient Test cricket to be included. Ajantha Mendis (Bishop's choice as his "wild-card pick") played only three Tests, albeit with sensational success against India. Muttiah Muralitharan (Shastri's choice because he was "tried, tested and vastly experienced") played six Tests: but in two of them, in the West Indies, he struggled, relatively, and could not bowl out West Indies when they chased in Port-of-Spain.

Mitchell Johnson's development through the year - culminating in 11 wickets against South Africa in the Perth Test which Australia lost - persuaded Bishop and Smith to select him. Bishop also observed that Johnson is "a good fielder and improving lower-order batsman". Shastri preferred Brett Lee, as he began the year so well: "Magnificent, fast and long spells of reversing it."

Another unanimous choice was Dale Steyn. As Bishop, a former fast bowler himself, analysed Steyn: "His youthful zest, pace and swing put him ahead of his competitors. A real litmus test of any fast bowler's ability is the subcontinent, and for consecutive years Steyn has proven that the pitches in Pakistan or India are no barrier to a fast bowler's success. He is not yet a finished product, but this year has again proven that he has the potential and ability it takes to go on to be an outstanding bowler."

The last place had to go to a third pace bowler and, as with the spinner's position, there was a three-way tie. Smith went for Ryan Sidebottom after seeing him during England's twin series against New Zealand. But Bishop discounted Sidebottom because 41 of his 47 wickets in the year came against New Zealand, and preferred Ishant Sharma: "I really like his attitude on flat pitches; his control is good and he gets the ball to deviate whether new or old." Shastri opted for Zaheer Khan and - although Zaheer's overall figures were not impressive as he had to bowl in Sri Lanka and India - so did the convener, because Zaheer can use either a new or old ball to full effect. In this team he would open the bowling with Steyn, leaving Johnson to reverse the old ball away from right-handers. Zaheer, as Shastri observed, can also bowl long spells from over or round the wicket at any stage of an innings, and he reverse-swung the ball "as early as the tenth or twelfth over" - a significant factor in India's 2-0 victory over Australia.

THE WISDEN TEST XI OF 2008
V. Sehwag (India)
§G. C. Smith (South Africa)
R. T. Ponting (Australia)
S. R. Tendulkar (India)
K. P. Pietersen (England)
S. Chanderpaul (West Indies)
*†M. S. Dhoni (India)
Harbhajan Singh (India)
M. G. Johnson (Australia)
D. W. Steyn (South Africa)
Zaheer Khan (India)

§ Vice-captain

© John Wisden & Co
And Sehwag has been awarded the leading cricketer of the world(not just England) by Wisden for two years in a row 2008,2009
Dhoni has also been the recipient of many awards including the ICC ODI Player of the Year award in 2008 and 2009 :whistle:
 
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One point to note is, When runs are required, dhoni hardly performs. He usually perform when playing the first innings or the other players already done a lot of damage. He does not play well under pressure

But Ponting and Smith has performed under pressure a lot of times. That makes them better captain. I would rank Smith below Dhoni only because of the consistancy of Dhoni otherwise in my opinion even Smith is a better captain when you see overall

This is not true at all , the truth is quite the opposite.Dhoni is one of our most reliable batsman under pressure.here is a list of his top two knocks which have come while chasing
1.183 vs Srilanka
2.148 vs pakistan
 
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One point to note is, When runs are required, dhoni hardly performs. He usually perform when playing the first innings or the other players already done a lot of damage. He does not play well under pressure

But Ponting and Smith has performed under pressure a lot of times. That makes them better captain. I would rank Smith below Dhoni only because of the consistancy of Dhoni otherwise in my opinion even Smith is a better captain when you see overall



Most recent under pressure scores of him

4th Match: India v Pakistan at Dambulla, Jun 19, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

Scored 56 batting in second innings.

6th Match: Sri Lanka v India at Dambulla, Jun 22, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

Scored 41


Final: Sri Lanka v India at Dambulla, Jun 24, 2010 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

scored 38 in final.
 
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haha i was expecting better response from you benny, not a good way to defend Dhoni.

Do you really think making 41 runs playing at number 6 against Sri Lanka was enough? look at the scorecard again, they lost miserably. India made only 209 runs in that match..... "Sri Lanka won by 7 wickets (with 75 balls remaining)"

Second match that you showed against Pakistan, dhoni again failed to capitalize under pressure and Harbhajan Singh (bowler) was the star of the match who hit 2 sixes to take the match away from Pakistan and we lost with 1 ball left.

In third match again, he was playing in the first inning so there was no pressure for that espacially after getting a good start from Karthik and Kohli. Dhoni overall is a good batsmen and 38 runs, i guess he could make even a hundred considering the situation. But again i ain't saying dhoni is a bad batsmen all i said is, he does not perform under pressure...... many times i have observed he gives away his wicket cheaply under pressure.
 
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Disden XI dhoni & Sehwag

First you tried to drag Tendulkar & now Sehwag your argument is out of context and going around in circles. But till now you havn't been able to prove a single point why Dhoni is even considered a worthy opponent to Ricky Ponting......... you can believe what ever you want, being a Disden XI captain doesn't mean that he is the best of the best in the world, he has a long way to go to be even considered worthy enough to compete with Ricky Poting
 
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First you tried to drag Tendulkar & now Sehwag your argument is out of context and going around in circles. But till now you havn't been able to prove a single point why Dhoni is even considered a worthy opponent to Ricky Ponting......... you can believe what ever you want, being a Disden XI captain doesn't mean that he is the best of the best in the world, he has a long way to go to be even considered worthy enough to compete with Ricky Poting

Ofcourse dude u r entitled to have an opinion as am I:cool:
 
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