IS emerging as a threat, warns IB chief

[jamahir]

shabaash!!, asking pakistani IB to interfere in India, no wonder there are some are no.1 @holes in our country.

as i have twice already, i thought it was the indian ib... you have of course read my previous posts but i suppose you just wanted to make your contribution, however wrong.

by the way, why are you getting troubled if i call rss as the number one terrorist organization??

 

[illusion8]

as i have twice already, i thought it was the indian ib... you have of course read my previous posts but i suppose you just wanted to make your contribution, however wrong.

by the way, why are you getting troubled if i call rss as the number one terrorist organization??

Lol..so you just read the title and jumped in with an off topic post about a totally unrelated issue...shows desperation to malign India and a non Muslim religion..

There are thousands of Islamic religious groups who are extreme right leaning that the world is worried about - hizbut tahrir, Muslim brotherhood, jamaat, waahaabi, salafi groups - there's a new Islamist group thats started in India called south karnataka salafi organization..what do you think they preach and spread?..recruits for terrorist groups like Indian mujahadeen, SIMI, Islamic state. .and they will get many recruits too.

I guess you need to define what's a terrorist organization first before comparing an extreme right leaning organization like rss to Islamic terrorist groups.

If rss is a terrorist group then there are thousands of jamaati salafi waahaabi madrassahs, and organization's and millions of their followers that can be called terrorists according to you.

 

[jamahir]

Lol..so you just read the title and jumped in with an off topic post about a totally unrelated issue...shows desperation to malign India and a non Muslim religion..

india is not just the establishment and the sangh and their raucous supporter trolls in the indian software/services industry and the mba colleges.

india is also govind pansare and rohith vemula and the suicided farmers and the "honor killed" and irom sharmila.

There are thousands of Islamic religious groups who are extreme right leaning that the world is worried about - hizbut tahrir, Muslim brotherhood, jamaat, waahaabi, salafi groups

you should blame the western governments for that, instead of shaking hands with them.

and mind you, those groups you mention were created for the express purpose of doing regime-change in muslim-majority socialist/progressive countries and against muslim socialists/progressives.

when obama and merkel had visited india, why didn't you get the central government to arrest them??

- there's a new Islamist group thats started in India called south karnataka salafi organization..what do you think they preach and spread?

they preach something that is closer to brahminical ideology and very distant to true islam... this of course has been discussed many times.

I guess you need to define what's a terrorist organization first before comparing an extreme right leaning organization like rss to Islamic terrorist groups.

you must take up this issue with s.m. mushrif, the former police officer who has declared rss as the number one terrorist organization in india.

If rss is a terrorist group then there are thousands of jamaati salafi waahaabi madrassahs, and organization's and millions of their followers that can be called terrorists according to you.

i have no objection should the indian supreme court order the indian military to something humane for once - raid every tableeghi center in india and wipe out the reactionaries there... however, this must be done in parallel with raids on sangh practice fields and offices.

it cannot be that abdul madani is jailed but colonel purohits breed openly.

 

[illusion8]

india is not just the establishment and the sangh and their raucous supporter trolls in the indian software/services industry and the mba colleges.

india is also govind pansare and rohith vemula and the suicided farmers and the "honor killed" and irom sharmila.



you should blame the western governments for that, instead of shaking hands with them.

and mind you, those groups you mention were created for the express purpose of doing regime-change in muslim-majority socialist/progressive countries and against muslim socialists/progressives.

when obama and merkel had visited india, why didn't you get the central government to arrest them??



they preach something that is closer to brahminical ideology and very distant to true islam... this of course has been discussed many times.



you must take up this issue with s.m. mushrif, the former police officer who has declared rss as the number one terrorist organization in india.



i have no objection should the indian supreme court order the indian military to something humane for once - raid every tableeghi center in india and wipe out the reactionaries there... however, this must be done in parallel with raids on sangh practice fields and offices.

it cannot be that abdul madani is jailed but colonel purohits breed openly.

You aren't making much sense...that's okay, because most islamists usually don't.

 

[Ryuzaki]

Did you read the OP or read it from lenses of Religion? It's Pakistan's IB Chief, not India.

that was savage

 

[jamahir]

You aren't making much sense...that's okay, because most islamists usually don't.

i wrote in simple and direct manner yet you did not understand...no surprise because you sanghis who complicate your lives with rituals, festivals, college degrees, job experience letters are neither practiced in intellectual debate nor are capable of recognizing sensibility.

i mentioned rohith vemula... he suicided because of the oppressive environment the brahminical types have created in 2900 years... it was so simple to understand, yet you did not.

you would laugh at the simple-worded and questioning speeches of muammar gaddafi and fidel castro and cheer in ecstasy at the idiotic droning of western establishment political leaders or at the ridiculous speeches of modi even when he claims that "indians" 5000 years ago were the first to devise motor vehicles and had technology for in vitro human embryo growth.

as for "islamists", when true islam calls for equality and relief from oppression and bringing of simplicity, what is there to say "oh, that doesn't make sense"??

 

[MilSpec]

as i have twice already, i thought it was the indian ib... you have of course read my previous posts but i suppose you just wanted to make your contribution, however wrong.

by the way, why are you getting troubled if i call rss as the number one terrorist organization??

Because you are a terror apologist. This entire business of painting Right wing groups with the same brush of state sponsored terrorism is an old separatist agenda that closet mullahs like you are quite renowned for...Behind this facade of pseudo-socialism bull crap, you are nothing but a anti-national closet apologist for fascist radicals. Thus you labeling others as terrorists is nothing but shameless hypocrisy.

 

[jamahir]

Because you are a terror apologist. This entire business of painting Right wing groups with the same brush of state sponsored terrorism is an old separatist agenda that closet mullahs like you are quite renowned for...Behind this facade of pseudo-socialism bull crap, you are nothing but a anti-national closet apologist for fascist radicals. Thus you labeling others as terrorists is nothing but shameless hypocrisy.

my my... so much anger.

i suppose the entire indian socialist/communist movement are also "closet mullahs".

and you mention "fascist radicals" without the thought entering your mind that the bjp government at the center is a fascist group that is part of a larger reactionary movement that comprises of every kind of anti-human element, including bomb-blasters.

i don't care about the unnatural concept called nationalism... what i care about is defense of justice and opposition to anti-humanity... nationalists, especially indian nationalists, won't understand this and would insist on lynching people in cinema halls who don't stand for india's national anthem while at the same time the nationalists won't care for 300,000 suicided farmers ( between 1995 and 2015 ) or for why rohith vemula suicided... indeed, on pdf were page upon page of sanghis laughing at rohith's death and continuing with their war-mongering and nationalist/religious filth.

the indian government will be spending 65,000 crores ( nine billion dollars ) to buy the french rafale fighter planes, despite 70+ million indians being homeless and five-day-old girls dying in hospital because the government hospital threw them out of incubator machines[1] because the girl's parents poor weren't able to pay 200 rupees to the hospital... is this the kind of political/social/economic system the indian military wants to protect??

[2]

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The apathy of the Hospital staff didn’t end there. The mother of the child alleged that she was forced to leave the hospital on Wednesday night under pressure of the Staff. She had to walk for about 5 kilometers in the night as no conveyance was available and the Hospital Staff had refused to send an ambulance despite repeated requests. Walking on Jalandhar roads to reach her home she had to halt at many places midway as she was not feeling well because of having delivered the child just 5 days ago. It took her two and half hours to reach home from the Hospital.

this is what i say to you - either you are with the indian establishment-promoted political/social/economic system or you are with humanity... your choice.


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[1] Newborn loses life over Rs. 200 as Jalandhar Hospital loses human touch | YesPunjab.com

[2] Parents say 5-day-old baby died in hospital as they couldn't pay Rs 200 for incubator

 

[MilSpec]

my my... so much anger.

i suppose the entire indian socialist/communist movement are also "closet mullahs".

No Just you. That's why I called you out.

and you mention "fascist radicals" without the thought entering your mind that the bjp government at the center is a fascist group that is part of a larger reactionary movement that comprises of every kind of anti-human element, including bomb-blasters.

On contrary a democratically elected government that works on the contitution of India, instead of your preference of a megalomaniac dictator surrounded by concubines.

i don't care about the unnatural concept called nationalism...

Then you don't belong in India, go and rot in any destination of your choosing...Please pack your bag and leave the country that your spite with such passion. I hear gaddafi's family is recruiting.

what i care about is defense of justice and opposition to anti-humanity...

And thus the solidarity with a dictatorships sponsoring bombings, nuclear proliferation and gross human rights violation... see the closet fascism....

nationalists, especially indian nationalists,

Ohh guilty for that, I am and will remain a nationalist to the core, I come from a long lineage of nationalists, who laid down their lives for the nation, unlike the scums who do not miss a chance to demean the entire country by distorting fringe elements to paint a false image of the nation. And you can see the reaction of the entire nation to scums of the same mentality, your brethrens in JNU

nationalists won't understand this and would insist on lynching people in cinema halls who don't stand for india's national anthem while at the same time the nationalists won't care for 300,000 suicided farmers ( between 1995 and 2015 ) or for why rohith vemula suicided... indeed, on pdf were page upon page of sanghis laughing at rohith's death and continuing with their war-mongering and nationalist/religious filth.

I have seen people fall to some dark places to drive there points, but have rarely come across the scums who would trivialize sufferings of farmers to score brownie points, it takes a real twisted mind to do so, kudos, you are outdoing yourself. as far a Vemula is concerned, you should join him.....

the indian government will be spending 65,000 crores ( nine billion dollars ) to buy the french rafale fighter planes, despite 70+ million indians being homeless and five-day-old girls dying in hospital because the government hospital threw them out of incubator machines[1] because the girl's parents poor weren't able to pay 200 rupees to the hospital... is this the kind of political/social/economic system the indian military wants to protect??

Now you are coming to your main agenda, lets take up a fringe incident, and lets attack strategic aspects under that cover, How many people in India get medical attention daily? how about posting that number too.... take this weak *** trolling elsewhere.

 

[ni8mare]

you should blame the western governments for that, instead of shaking hands with them.

and mind you, those groups you mention were created for the express purpose of doing regime-change in muslim-majority socialist/progressive countries and against muslim socialists/progressives.

when obama and merkel had visited india, why didn't you get the central government to arrest them??

Why blame west here???
rather than the problem created my islam and muslims ..........Hiding behind west will not going to work any more

for example ....We can take your case who still under no influence of west obama or merkel is a hardcore islamist terror monger... ,,now can we blame west for this ?? no......can we blame the teaching of terror that you got ? Certainly yes

Just because of people like you (islamist etc) are reason why socialist and communist had failed india ....Terror mongering people are working in disguise of socialist and communist

including bomb-blasters.

like Maoists

your religious ideology does not allow you to consider that the human race is one and consider humans as equal... indeed, your insulting of the suicided dalit activist, rohit vemula, declares loudly that you do not respect so many people within your country and do not acknowledge that india being a extremely capitalist and reactionary environment has had oppression, injustice and big and small troubles daily for 2900 years.

@Abhijeet Sarkar look a islamist is shading crocodile tear for us

 

[Kao Boy]

mr. muslim chief of ib, you don't need to be overly patriotic... first do something about the old terrorist movement called sangh parivar... take a note from another former muslim police officer, s.m. mushrif, who has called rss as "number one terrorist organization in india".

Bro.. you read it in hurry... you got to spend sometime reading before... you actually react..

 

[jamahir]

Bro.. you read it in hurry... you got to spend sometime reading before... you actually react..

i agree... i twice spoke of my mistake.

Why blame west here???
rather than the problem created my islam and muslims ..........Hiding behind west will not going to work any more

for example ....We can take your case who still under no influence of west obama or merkel is a hardcore islamist terror monger... ,,now can we blame west for this ?? no......can we blame the teaching of terror that you got ? Certainly yes

i am a hardcore "islamist" terror monger??

let me ask @Zarvan @monitor @Luffy 500

also, for other purposes, @Zibago @haviZsultan

and ni8mare, here's how islam brought oppression to the condition of ladies in india and the world[1] :

When we examine marriage laws in their historic context, it is interesting to note that the universally accepted notion that marriages are contractual rather than sacramental originates in Muslim law, which was accepted by the French law only in the 1800s and incorporated into the English law in the 1850s and became part of codified Hindu law as late as 1955. Today it appears to be the most practical way of dealing with the institution of marriage. Treating marriage as a sacrament which binds the parties for life has resulted in some of the most discriminatory practices against women such as sati and denial of right to divorce and remarriage, even in the most adverse conditions.

The cornerstone of a Muslim marriage is consent, ejab-o-qubul (proposal and acceptance) and requires the bride to accept the marriage proposal on her own free will. This freedom to consent (or refuse), which was given to Muslim women 1,400 years ago, is still not available under Hindu law since sacramental rituals such as saptapadi and kanya dan (seven steps round the nuptial fire and gifting of the bride to the groom) still form essential ceremonies of a Hindu marriage. Even after the codification of Hindu law, the notion of consent is not built into the marriage ceremonies.

One wonders why a reference to the Islamic law was not made either by the minister [ j : the writer refers to mrs. maneka gandhi ] or other experts. Married Muslim women, we find, are often on a higher and more secure footing than their counterparts from other religions. In fact, as a Christian marrying a Muslim, I chose to marry under the Muslim personal law, even over the seemingly modern Special Marriage Act, 1954, to better secure my economic rights. My mehr was a house in my name and my nikahnama includes necessary clauses to safeguard my and my children’s rights. My husband’s family members were witness to this document, which is registered and enforceable by law.

read the rest of the thread.


and yes, we must blame the western government leaders... they are genociders and war-criminals.

Just because of people like you (islamist etc) are reason why socialist and communist had failed india ....Terror mongering people are working in disguise of socialist and communist

socialism and communism have failed nowhere, unless they were made to fail by nato plots and regime-changes.

little communist cuba has high rating in the uno-undp "human development index" scale despite being affected by collapse of ussr and this rating is lot higher than india... for year 2014 ranking[2], cuba was at number 44 and india was at number 135... cuba has this high ranking despite uno agencies essentially being influenced greatly by the anti-socialist nato bloc.

like Maoists

no, like rss workers like colonel purohit and sadhvi pragya.

who knows how many of them are there in the indian military. **hands spread wide in wonderment**

@Abhijeet Sarkar look a islamist is shading crocodile tear for us

why don't you go to hyderabad university and tell the agitating dalits there that you are a house dailt, a supposed dalit who actually works for the anti-human sangh??

edit : abhijeet is banned, by the way.


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[1] prenups in indian weddings and islam

[2] 2014 Human Development Report (HDI) | UNDP

 

[Kao Boy]

Haqqanis now kicked by the ISI and are almost jobless... have now pledged to IS. Pakistan Nuclear Arsenal and technology is also valnurable to be sold to IS by some Islamist sympathizers in the system... US fears...

History tells how centrifues were stolen by the Chief of Pakistan Nuclear Programme whilst he was in Germany or Denmark I guess... to start of the Programme in Pakistan on request of Mr Bhutto..

 

[Zibago]

i agree... i twice spoke of my mistake.



i am a hardcore "islamist" terror monger??

let me ask @Zarvan @monitor @Luffy 500

also, for other purposes, @Zibago @haviZsultan

and ni8mare, here's how islam brought oppression to the condition of ladies in india and the world[1] :


read the rest of the thread.


and yes, we must blame the western government leaders... they are genociders and war-criminals.



socialism and communism have failed nowhere, unless they were made to fail by nato plots and regime-changes.

little communist cuba has high rating in the uno-undp "human development index" scale despite being affected by collapse of ussr and this rating is lot higher than india... for year 2014 ranking[2], cuba was at number 44 and india was at number 135... cuba has this high ranking despite uno essentially been influenced greatly by the anti-socialist nato bloc.



no, like rss workers like colonel purohit and sadhvi pragya.

who knows how many of them are there in the indian military. **hands spread wide in wonderment**



why don't you go to hyderabad university and tell the agitating dalits there that you are a house dailt, a supposed dalit who actually works for the anti-human sangh??

edit : abhijeet is banned, by the way.


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[1] prenups in indian weddings and islam

[2] 2014 Human Development Report (HDI) | UNDP

If jamahir is a closet molvi then i am new Khalifa of daesh

 

[haviZsultan]

i agree... i twice spoke of my mistake.



i am a hardcore "islamist" terror monger??

let me ask @Zarvan @monitor @Luffy 500

also, for other purposes, @Zibago @haviZsultan

and ni8mare, here's how islam brought oppression to the condition of ladies in india and the world[1] :


read the rest of the thread.


and yes, we must blame the western government leaders... they are genociders and war-criminals.



socialism and communism have failed nowhere, unless they were made to fail by nato plots and regime-changes.

little communist cuba has high rating in the uno-undp "human development index" scale despite being affected by collapse of ussr and this rating is lot higher than india... for year 2014 ranking[2], cuba was at number 44 and india was at number 135... cuba has this high ranking despite uno essentially been influenced greatly by the anti-socialist nato bloc.



no, like rss workers like colonel purohit and sadhvi pragya.

who knows how many of them are there in the indian military. **hands spread wide in wonderment**



why don't you go to hyderabad university and tell the agitating dalits there that you are a house dailt, a supposed dalit who actually works for the anti-human sangh??

edit : abhijeet is banned, by the way.


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[1] prenups in indian weddings and islam

[2] 2014 Human Development Report (HDI) | UNDP

The quick labelling of any muslim who does not agree with the Indians (Hindutvas) as "Islamic terror mongers" is but a part of the suppressive policy India has towards muslims who raise their voice for their rights, in simple terms their basic "haq"

This policy is a sure fire way to convince all those loyal muslims to keep quiet no matter what oppression and what evil (you pointed out the Samjhauta Express case) they take part in. By being voiceless and unable to raise these issues like Malegaon which have deeply affected us muslims become weak and this is what these Indians actually want. A weaker and submissive muslim population that does not even raise a voice for Babri.

Unless the muslims in Indian occupied regions look towards Pakistan as the savior it is these blackmail policies of the Indian center which will continue to knife the Muslims in the name of Indian nationalism and other ideas of Indian unity-which is actually a myth.