IS claims Libya bombing that killed 42

[al-Hasani]

Stop bothering me your idiotic false-flagger. Too ashamed of the Pakistani, Farsi or whatever your origin is, flag? Stick to PissTV and know that no Arab cares about your opinion. You have no knowledge about Libya or the Arab world. Nor is this your business.

I don't waste my time with idiots for longer than necessary.

The GCC will prosper and your tears show me that they are doing their job very well.

If necessary we will deal with your likes like cattle is dealt with.

 

[libertad]

Stop bothering me your idiotic false-flagger. Too ashamed of the Pakistani, Farsi or whatever your origin is, flag? Stick to PissTV and know that no Arab cares about your opinion. You have no knowledge about Libya or the Arab world. Nor is this your business.

I don't waste my time with idiots for longer than necessary.

The GCC will prosper and your tears show me that they are doing their job very well.

If necessary we will deal with your likes like cattle is dealt with.

LOL...Surrender noted.

 

[al-Hasani]

LOL...Surrender noted.

If not wasting further time with obvious clowns that talk out of their *** about topics that they have no clue about and which does not concern them the slightest is "surrender" then so be it.

All your double users and this is the best that you can come up with?

Where you used as a slave in the GCC? Is that why you are crying whenever their names are mentioned?

 

[libertad]

If not wasting further time with obvious clowns that talk out of their *** about topics that they have no clue about and which does not concern them the slightest is "surrender" then so be it.

All your double users and this is the best that you can come up with?

Where you used as a slave in the GCC? Is that why you are crying whenever their names are mentioned?

You're obviously not equipped to deal with the facts and can't even answer simple questions. Just pathetic trolling ad hominems. Just go back to posting pics in some KSA thread its what you do best. Geopolitics are a little out of you depth. Even in your own backyard.

 

[al-Hasani]

You're obviously not equipped to deal with the facts and can't even answer simple questions. Just pathetic trolling ad hominems. Just go back to posting pics in some KSA thread its what you do best. Geopolitics are a little out of you depth. Even in your own backyard.

Meanwhile you can log into one of your dozens of double users on PDF and troll a bit more. Or switch on PissTV to get updated about the undeniable "truths" in the Arab world that you are so obsessed about but have no ties with.

We saw your "geopolitical" expertise in this very thread. Especially your first post.

I suggest that you first learn to locate Libya on a world map, clown.

 

[libertad]

Meanwhile you can log into one of your dozens of double users on PDF and troll a bit more. Or switch on PissTV to get updated about the undeniable "truths" in the Arab world that you are so obsessed about but have no ties with.

We saw your "geopolitical" expertise in this very thread. Especially your first post.

I suggest that you first learn to locate Libya on a world map, clown.

Stop polluting the thread with your trolling. Predictably, you don't have anything of note to add. As a self professed expert on Arab affairs, you can't even deal with facts and answer simple questions so the only sensible thing to do is to scurry away before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

 

[al-Hasani]

Nice to see you thoroughly researching my posts. Looking for ammo for trolling? Anyway on a serious note,stop polluting the thread with your trolling. Predictably, you don't have anything of note to add. As a self professed expert on Arab affairs, you can't even deal with facts and answer simple questions so the only sensible thing to do is to scurry away before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

How do you want me to take a false-flagger and double user like you seriously? Your agenda is obvious for everyone. Your propaganda too with is taken from the same 2-3 sources (PissTV, Global Research and occasionally Russia Today).
You have no independent thoughts of any kind. You have no access to local Libyan news because you do not speak or read Arabic. You have a limited knowledge about Libya's history, tribal and social structure and the regionalism. Nor the various fractions in Libya, the Libyan civil war, Gaddafi's 42 year long rule, which powers (regional and international) that were involved and to what extend etc.

I am very capable of writing long detailed "novels" (as some users call them) about the geopolitical realities of the Arab world and MENA region and I am also very capable of challenging your nonsense usual. It's just that I am not going to participate in a very long discussion with a obvious simpleton like you that already has defined the "truths" beforehand.

So kindly stop bothering me with your nonsense. On the other hand if you are interested in a real debate then I might be as well.

 

[libertad]

How do you want me to take a false-flagger and double user like you seriously? Your agenda is obvious for everyone. Your propaganda too with is taken from the same 2-3 sources (PissTV, Global Research and occasionally Russia Today).

My source here was Reuters, which is Canadian. I could have found Israeli, American, Arabic sources and yes maybe even Presstv. So what? The veracity of the content is more important than the source. As a Saudi, only being exposed to state run media, you are automatically programmed to be averse to rival sources so you totally dismiss its content. This is probably why its so hard for you to debate civilly.

You have no independent thoughts of any kind. You have no access to local Libyan news because you do not speak or read Arabic. You have a limited knowledge about Libya's history, tribal and social structure and the regionalism. Nor the various fractions in Libya, the Libyan civil war, Gaddafi's 42 year long rule, which powers (regional and international) that were involved and to what extend etc.

You are right about that. But what has it to do with the war to remove Gaddafi? Why did they remove Gaddafi even though he was an Arab League member? Why do Arab League member states attack and destroy each other? Why have the same people that sent arms to remove Gaddafi, now abandoned the country? These were my simple questions.

I am very capable of writing long detailed "novels" (as some users call them) about the geopolitical realities of the Arab world and MENA region and I am also very capable of challenging your nonsense usual. It's just that I am not going to participate in a very long discussion with a obvious simpleton like you that already has defined the "truths" beforehand.

Maybe you can write biopics on the obscure tribes inhabiting the ___________ valley but that has nothing to do with these wars.

 

[al-Hasani]

My source here was Reuters, which is Canadian. I could have found Israeli, American, Arabic sources and yes maybe even Presstv. So what? The veracity of the content is more important than the source. As a Saudi, only being exposed to state run media, you are automatically programmed to be averse to rival sources so you totally dismiss its content. This is probably why its so hard for you to debate civilly.



You are right about that. But what has it to do with the war to remove Gaddafi? Why did they remove Gaddafi even though he was an Arab League member? Why do Arab League member states attack and destroy each other? Why have the same people that sent arms to remove Gaddafi, now abandoned the country? These were my simple questions.



Maybe you can write biopics on the obscure tribes inhabiting the ___________ valley but that has nothing to do with these wars.

I don't know what you are talking about and which source. I am talking about the usual sources that you use.

So what you say? I don't have to say more than this I guess.

Those are not "rival sources". Just idiotic propaganda channels that objective observers also categorize those media as.

I am of mixed origin (ties to more than just KSA in the Arab world and partially European) and I have lived on 3 continents. You have no clue about anything. Everyone in KSA and the GCC can watch whatever channels they want to. Satellite news channels are legal and widely spread. People in the GCC can watch every channel they want to. This is not your beloved Iran where Twitter, Facebook is banned and many foreign news channels.

Iran - Photos: Mullahs destroy 6,000 satellite dishes for being ‘enemy of Islam’

BBC News - Iran: Police use new tactics to confiscate satellite dishes

Why are Twitter and Facebook still blocked in Iran? | Al Jazeera America

Ok, if you admit not knowing all those issues contrary to my knowledge then don't comment on them.

Now you are trolling as usual. Who are "they". The Arab world did not remove Gaddafi. Libyans and NATO did that. Do you understand this simple fact? There were no Arab foot soldiers in Libya (outside of Libyans and volunteers on both sides from neighboring countries) nor did any Arab air forces take part in the Libyan civil war outside of Egypt and UAE which did limited air raids.

Nobody is destroying anybody. People like Gaddafi, Saddam and Al-Assad are destroying themselves due to their actions and oppression. No need to do more explanation on this topic.

The tribal and social structure in Libya has very much to do with the current unrest. As does the powerful regionalism.

Such comments from you show once again to every knowledgeable poster that you are writing nonsense and that you are not interested in debate but pursuing the same tiring anti-Western, anti-GCC agenda like usual.

Or being an apologist for Iranian Mullah dictators that are as guilty of spreading terror in the region, Al-Assad, Gaddafi, Putin etc.

See it took me 9 minutes to write all this while it takes you 30 minutes to write a few troll sentences.

 

[terry5]

You are a Bangladeshi. Can you even locate Libya on a world map?.

Your on a Pakistani forum so stick your superior attitude up your camels backside ,this aint no Arab habibi dabibi forum where you can flex your superior Arab bull crap .

 

[al-Hasani]

Your on a Pakistani forum so stick your superior attitude up your camels backside ,this aint no Arab habibi dabibi forum where you can flex your superior Arab bull crap .

So what? Is it a Bangladeshi forum? What has that comment to do with anything? "Superior attitude" Are you under the influence of heroin?
I just don't like clueless people talking about issues that they have no clue about. Especially if they are hostile to Arabs which that user often is.

Oh, you are that Arab-obsessed troll that emerges once every few weeks.

Where do camels come from? Camels are originally from the Horn of Africa and Somalia for instance has more camels than any other country. In fact KSA and many Arab countries are IMPORTING camels from countries like Australia which has the highest number of wild camels in the world. Besides camels are highly intelligent and valuable animals that were the second most expensive animals for millenniums after the horse. Used from China to Morocco.

Anyway I prefer our world famous Arabian horses that helped create 3 of the 11 largest empires in the world (more than any other ethnic group in the top 15) which are the most beautiful and valuable horses. Or our Arabian leopards (my avatar is one).

Stop using the Palestinian flag when you are not a Palestinian.

 

[libertad]

I don't know what you are talking about and which source. I am talking about the usual sources that you use.

So what you say? I don't have to say more than this I guess.

Those are not "rival sources". Just idiotic propaganda channels that objective observers also categorize those media as.

I am of mixed origin (ties to more than just KSA in the Arab world and partially European) and I have lived on 3 continents. You have no clue about anything. Everyone in KSA and the GCC can watch whatever channels they want to. Satellite news channels are legal and widely spread. People in the GCC can watch every channel they want to. This is not your beloved Iran where Twitter, Facebook is banned and many foreign news channels.

Iran - Photos: Mullahs destroy 6,000 satellite dishes for being ‘enemy of Islam’

BBC News - Iran: Police use new tactics to confiscate satellite dishes

Why are Twitter and Facebook still blocked in Iran? | Al Jazeera America

Once again you can't resist bringing Iran into discussion. This is bordering on OCD. KSA press freedom is one of the worst in the world, worse than Sub Saharan Africa. Ditto for Iran.

Ok, if you admit not knowing all those issues contrary to my knowledge then don't comment on them.

Now you are trolling as usual. Who are "they". The Arab world did not remove Gaddafi. Libyans and NATO did that. Do you understand this simple fact? There were no Arab foot soldiers in Libya (outside of Libyans and volunteers on both sides from neighboring countries) nor did any Arab air forces take part in the Libyan civil war outside of Egypt and UAE which did limited air raids.

Nobody is destroying anybody. People like Gaddafi, Saddam and Al-Assad are destroying themselves due to their actions and oppression. No need to do more explanation on this topic.

The tribal and social structure in Libya has very much to do with the current unrest. As does the powerful regionalism.

Such comments from you show once again to every knowledgeable poster that you are writing nonsense and that you are not interested in debate but pursuing the same tiring anti-Western, anti-GCC agenda like usual.

Or being an apologist for Iranian Mullah dictators that are as guilty of spreading terror in the region, Al-Assad, Gaddafi, Putin etc.

See it took me 9 minutes to write all this while it takes you 30 minutes to write a few troll sentences.

What does my knowledge of the people/region have to do with simple facts? I don't understand how you can say the Arab world didn't remove Gaddafi when they sent weapons and fighters, especially GCC countries like Qatar. This hardheadedness astounds me. If the country is so complex, tribally, socially etc why plunge it into anarchy? You want to league Putin with Assad and Gaddafi? What did Putin do ? Heck other than being independent of the West what did GADDAFI do?

Your on a Pakistani forum so stick your superior attitude up your camels backside ,this aint no Arab habibi dabibi forum where you can flex your superior Arab bull crap .

That's his whole shtick. When he can't deal with the topic at hand he resorts to that. I used to be an Iranian, but today I'm a Bangladeshi. Who know what I'll be tomorrow?

 

[al-Hasani]

Once again you can't resist bringing Iran into discussion. This is bordering on OCD. KSA press freedom is one of the worst in the world, worse than Sub Saharan Africa. Ditto for Iran.



What does my knowledge of the people/region have to do with simple facts? I don't understand how you can say the Arab world didn't remove Gaddafi when they sent weapons and fighters, especially GCC countries like Qatar. This hardheadedness astounds me. If the country is so complex, tribally, socially etc why plunge it into anarchy? You want to league Putin with Assad and Gaddafi? What did Putin do ? Heck other than being independent of the West what did GADDAFI do?

Stop wasting my time. Everyone in KSA that can afford it which most people in KSA can as the GDP per capita (nominal) in KSA is higher than the average in the EU, have access to every news channel they want to have access to. You once again don't know what you are talking about.

Mentioning your beloved Iran is relevant here to make a comparison and as you never criticize them at all for anything.

It has to do with everything. You are starting topics that you have a limited knowledge about which you admitted in this very thread too.

You do realize that Qatar is 1 tiny Arab country out of 22 Arab countries in total? Qatar and UAE are not GCC as a whole either.

The Libyans themselves are doing that. Nobody else. Just like they tolerated Gaddafi for 42 years.

No, I don't. I just mentioned Putin and Russia as a country that you never criticize unlike Western countries and Western allies in the Muslim world (GCC, Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia etc.)

Why do I never see you criticizing Pakistan? They are in the Western camp too. Or maybe you don't want to criticize your ancestral country?

 

[libertad]

Stop wasting my time. Everyone in KSA that can afford it which most people in KSA can as the GDP per capita (nominal) in KSA is higher than the average in the EU, have access to every news channel they want to have access to. You once again don't know what you are talking about.

KSA ranked 164th in press freedom out of 180 countries ranked.
Press Freedom Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Censorship in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its no use debating this. Yes you have money, but not press freedom. Easy to brainwash and propagandize people who are not allowed access to alternate views.

Mentioning your beloved Iran is relevant here to make a comparison and as you never criticize them at all for anything.

I don't criticize China either, so that makes me Chinese right?

It has to do with everything. You are starting topics that you have a limited knowledge about which you admitted in this very thread too.

You do realize that Qatar is 1 tiny Arab country out of 22 Arab countries in total? Qatar and UAE are not GCC as a whole either.

The Libyans themselves are doing that. Nobody else. Just like they tolerated a Gaddafi for 42 years.

Yes a tiny, rich country that is causing the death of many people, almost all Arab. Why are they doing it? What did Qatar, UAE gain by removing Gaddafi? All I'm doing is asking questions here.

No, I don't. I just mentioned Putin and Russia as a country that you never criticize unlike Western countries and Western allies in the Muslim world (GCC, Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia etc.)

I criticize hypocrites. Which the GCC clearly are with their support of 'democracy' in Syria and the support of dictator tyrants in Egypt and Bahrain. All the while totally ignoring the Palestinians.

Why do I never see you criticizing Pakistan? They are in the Western camp too. Or maybe you don't want to criticize your ancestral country?

Oh so I'm Pakistani now?? When can I get my passport? That would be my fourth one . Pakistan minds its own business and doesn't meddle in other countries affairs.

 

[al-Hasani]

KSA ranked 164th in press freedom out of 180 countries ranked.
Press Freedom Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Censorship in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its no use debating this. Yes you have money, but not press freedom. Easy to brainwash and propagandize people who are not allowed access to alternate views.



I don't criticize China either, so that makes me Chinese right?

Yes a tiny, rich country that is causing the death of many people, almost all Arab. Why are they doing it? What did Qatar, UAE gain by removing Gaddafi? All I'm doing is asking questions here.



I criticize hypocrites. Which the GCC clearly are with their support of 'democracy' in Syria and the support of dictator tyrants in Egypt and Bahrain.

Oh so I'm Pakistani now?? When can I get my passport? That would be my fourth one . Pakistan minds its own business and doesn't meddle in other countries affairs.

That's a moronic and outdated list.

KSA ranks 34 out of over 200 countries in terms of HDI.

List of countries by Human Development Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The second highest in the Muslim world after Qatar.

Are you dumb? Satellite channels have nothing to do with that. Everyone in KSA can watch whatever TV channels they want to.

The internet is barely regulated too. Facebook, Twitter etc. is not banned either. People from KSA are some of the biggest consumers of social media.

Social media in Saudi Arabia: A virtual revolution | The Economist

I don't care what you really are. It's obvious that you are not an American of European descent which I also recall you admitting here on PDF in an earlier discussion.

It's about your inconsistency, propaganda, bias and nonsense claims.

In a thread about an bombing in Libya you turn the topic into GCC. You are insane.

Who is Qatar killing? Do you have proof of your allegations. If they do that then ask the Qatari leaders. Maybe they want MB rule to dominate everywhere? Maybe they made a secret deal with MB?

Bahrain is part of the GCC and there are no tyrants. Yes, and Morsi was an angel.

Let the Egyptian users educate you on that.

@Frogman @Mahmoud_EGY

GCC never claimed to be a democracy so there is ZERO hypocrisy. Al-Assad is committing genocide in Syria against fellow Arabs and Muslims. Every sane person would stand against him.

That's not happening in either Egypt let alone Bahrain.

Yes, especially in Afghanistan.