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Man, you an your generals have severe issues with reality. The US has never looked into a ground offense of Iran. It'll be aquick air assault that'll leave the air defence useless and the ground targets converted into useful rubble for recycling.
We don't need to use Diego Garcia as there are Stealth Assets in area. Sufficient enough to level your air defence before the major airassault. Now if we left it at the Israeli's, they might not even care for the stealth and will use their F-15's and -16's for this.
None of your rant comes across "statements" as its a rant. No, I am not brainwashed. I just know the capabilities of the US armed forces. And I truly hope you never get to find out as the reality shock is a bitc*h. Ask Saddam's buddies what they thought and what actually happened when they were all caught. Try to understand if you are speaking reality of from both sides of your mouth. May help in fxing the usual rant issue.
You seem fixed on your own reality, and anyone reading your posts and mine will see that you are ranting.
Reality is that you have started wars you could not win, neither in Afghanistan nor in Iraq two countries that were less than 10 % strong as Iran, and you are still talking about the american might, wich I consider as enormous to defend the USA but not very efficient to attack other countries.
Your reality shock bitc*h is most apparent in your army officers who are still commiting suicide or killing each other in the States, due to the shock and awe they have experienced in the long run battles that followed your invasions, be it in Iraq or Afghanistan. Iranian Generals depicted your US army as very shaky when it gets hit hard
Your best generals said it before that Iran is no Afghanistan nor Iraq, it is a much mightier foe.
Have a look again how the American army was ejected from Iraq and Afghanistan, and the dire consequences on your soldiers back home.
Israel is an extention of the US somehow, revise your tpost and you'll see that your bringing in the F-16s and F-15s which both are American warplanes given for free to Your proxy. So believed or not you and your unofficial wannabe generals that neither the US nor Israel can attack Iran without unacceptable results for both.
Who has shitty stuff like the Patriot The US or Iran? Have the F-15s and F-16s ever faced the S-300 or even the S-200, the pantsir- like systems or any efficient air defense system in all its wars and existence?
Your stealth assets in the area are nothing but a show, the F-22 faces so many issues of its own that you should be ashamed of mentionning it before another 10 or 15 years if it can ever achieve what it was expected for.
I am wondering if your post if even worth the response.... just a few things though to make sure that the history is fixed as your posts are far from objectivity and everywhere from a topic's standpoint:
1) What you consider defeat in Afghanistan, we call that mission achieved. OBL is DEAD, and Talibans are on the run in little numbers. Plus we have facilities to use against Iran in case we need to. Now you have the US jets that can come in from multiple directions and not just from the gulf. It's not ejection, we are DONE in both of these places with our objectives. No need to spend billions in a mountainous region that has no value. In Iraq, Saddam's gone. People are MUCH better without him and you can see that. Iraq will become prosperous very soon. And you guys are still under sanctions.....?
2) Out of hundreds of thousands of soldiers deployed, a few psychiatric conditions are going to happen. War is a war and it always has its toll on people. As the largest military power in the world, a few of the issues with regards to its soldiers are bound to happen. Plus, we have freedom of reporting so everything gets out. You guys have the freedom of nothing so nothing gets out. Simple is that.
3) Israel is an extension as the US government supports it. Sucks for you that no one on the planet likes you besides Venezuela and North Korea. What a great alliance from all aspects. Three blind got together and decided to find a place on the map. Shortly after they realized they were all lost going in separate direction as NONE of them can read the map or see. Blind leading the blind. It's great. Well done in building the weirdest alliance on the planet!
4) Patriots are well tested and battle proven. And yes, the -15 and -16's HAVE faced the Russian missiles. I leave it at that. The question is not FACING them. The true question is how many would you even be able to fire before your AD will be converted over to useful rubble for recycling purposes. You can make Cocacola bottle cans with that destroyed melted steel that used to be Radars after the US jets hit them with anti-radiation missiles.
5) By telling me that the -15, -16 and now the F-22 are useless planes and F-22 is soo bad at stealth, etc means nothing (but yet, it can fly over your house and no one would know it was there.... ). The world knows the capabilities of the American systems and they are proven in almost every condition. In fact, the Russians and the Chinese started their Stealth programs a decade after the F-22 became operational. You going to say these guys are spending billions in R&D to compete with a bad stealth plane? Two of our F-22's can take down about a full squadron of your top end planes. You can count on that. I hope you guys never get to witness it as the super advanced Radars, S-300 missiles you keep referring to, the GREAT Migs, etc won't be functional within a few hours into a conflict. THAT much, I can guarantee you.
I said, based on many serious American, Australian and European articles that the F-22 has very serious problems and can not for the time being fulfill its mission as it was intended to, if it can fulfill any mission at all, maybe a reconnaissance one at best if the pilots do not shock on their oxygen supply, so that will have to be a subsonic mission, making it a flying duck as soon as it is picked by radars.
I don't even know how to respond to someone who lives in the Iranian Military Disney where "all dreams come true"! Apparently everything about the US is a lie to you. I'd LOVE to see a small incident now where an F-22 got provoked, and out of piss*d off feelings (like what I am having here), the F-22 was given a go-ahead to defend itself.... and it took out half the squadron of your jets and went home without anyone knowing it was even there. May be THEN we'll have a decent conversation about the US military's capability. People like you, don't want to accept the reality unless it bites them.
What's the point of this stupid thread?
Iran cannot purchase any fighter jet whilst Pakistan can. You people think having a better air force over a a country which has been under sanctions for 30 years is something to be proud?
You brought you planes, it's not like you made them.
Having said all of that. I still take an upgraded f-14 armed with phoenix missile over any of the Pakistani planes which Pakistan purchased :p
Your policies, your fault, your repercussions. Plus Block 52 with Aim 120-C/D with ECW, ECCW and sniper modules will make mince meat out of your F-14s.
No offence intended but please do a little research regarding capabilities. We have to counter better planes ( SU-30 MKI ) than your F-14 ( albeit the best plane in its time ). Yours planes have no ECW or ECCW mods that are going to handle the jamming by Block 52. Phoenix is an old tech, which can only hit targets in a simple trajectory and has a bit uneasing rate of failure.
Yeah we do make JF-17s that is real. Though obviously in cooperation with China, but then again we are a small nation with not so much money. We made a lot than what people credit us with.