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[SalarHaqq]

Russia didn't care about Syria , they cared about their only remaining base in middle east , if they believed the cannibals could be trusted to leave their bases there alone , I doubt they would have entered Syria conflict. and I believe if at the time our drone programs was as advanced as now , I mean we had strike capabilities in adequate number , we would have enticed them to enter Syria

At the end of the day, what does it matter why they joined in on Syria? Fact is the potential was there and it came to pass. Whereas European regimes are enemies to Iran because they're vassals of the US and the zionists, plain and simple. With them there's no potential for deeper constructive ties especially at the geostrategic level. There's just no comparison here, really.

Besides, Russia cared more than just about their base. Had the terrorists taken over Syria, the Resistance Axis would have faced an existential threat and could have ended up getting dismantled. Which would have removed the only counterweight to the US empire in a region of such tremendous import as West Asia.

And Russia would not have considered it in its interests if the zio-American empire extended its hegemony over the entirety West Asia, straddling Russia's southern flank. Moreover, although Russia failed to stop NATO in Libya, they were highly irritated at the west's intervention there. But they lacked the resources to prevent it all alone. In Syria however they've had a partner, namely Iran and allies, hence why they dared to enter the fray.

The question whether the Syrian opposition may have allowed Russia to maintain its naval base is a non-starter, since the west, whose directives these oppositionists follow, is hostile towards Moscow. This very fact means that Iran and Russia have a major shared concern justifying rapprochement: a common existential foe. Like it or nor, geopolitical circumstances happen to bring Russia and Iran immanently closer than Iran and the EU will ever be.

So again, we can take issue with Moscow's reliability all we want, but let's not make it appear as if Russia's the enemy state while European NATO regimes aren't, for this would amount to turning reality on its head.

 

[thesaint]

Iran and Turkey should collaborate on developments of UAVs, fighter jet engines and fighter jet.. they each have lot to offer ... also they can share their joint ventures with other muslim countries who are outside of zionist influence.

 

[TheImmortal]

also they can share their joint ventures with other muslim countries who are outside of zionist influence.

Lol Turkey outside of Zionist influence? Good joke. They are Zionist a$$ kissers just like the fake Arab monarchs.

 

[sha ah]

Chinese fighter jets have recently pulled maneuvers infront of Canadian and now Australian patrol aircraft in the South China Sea. In this incident, a Chinese J-16 went infront of an Australian P-8 and dispensed flares and chaff. The Australians are claiming that some of the chaff particles got into the P-8s engines. Canada called Chinese maneuvers alarming and Australia described them as highly risky.

 

[TheImmortal]

Chinese fighter jets have recently pulled maneuvers infront of Canadian and now Australian patrol aircraft in the South China Sea. In this incident, a Chinese J-16 went infront of an Australian P-8 and dispensed flares and chaff. The Australians are claiming that some of the chaff particles got into the P-8s engines. Canada called Chinese maneuvers alarming and Australia described them as highly risky.

Yeah Russia did the same thing last 10 years. Now we see Russian airforce isn’t the vaunted Killing machine we once thought it was.

Childish antics like this just prove immaturity of the armed force.

I’m all for some pilots horsing around having fun with each other. Iran has done it professionally. But this game of chicken crap just shows they suffer from inferiority complex.

Meanwhile they let the west continue to violate their “zones” of sovereignty in South China Sea.

 

[sha ah]

Well to be fair, Russia has only deployed a maximum of 200,000 troops in Ukraine. Their regular army is numbered at 1 million and they have 2 million reserves. The UN says 10,000 people have died in Ukraine. Now they're even talking about prosecuting Russia for war crimes. Meanwhile the war in Iraq killed 1 million Iraqi civilians. Afghanistan, Yemen, millions of children are currently starving but to the west they're invisible.

Russia has so far conducted 2000 missile strikes and 3000 air strikes. Compare that to the 100,000 sorties conducted by the US airforce in the 1st 6 weeks of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

If you remember Crimea, that's how Russia prefers to do things. Avoiding civilian casualties and taking everything intact. They tried using the same tactics in Kiev and it failed miserably. Also they were fighting on a massive front, larger than the German front against Russia in WW2.

Also keep in mind that in the fight for Kiev, Russian troops were outnumbered likely more than 5 to 1 when they should have outnumbered the Ukrainians. Kiev is a city of 3 million and Ukraine conscripted the entire fighting aged male population. They also had some of their best units defending Kiev.

Despite sustaining massive losses during the Kiev campaign, Russian troops still got to the outskirts of the city. They only withdrew once they were ordered to do so and despite everything they were able to withdraw most of their forces in good order and redeploy them.

Realistically Russia has 1000 fighter jets. They're not fighting at their full capacity. But anyways so far after changing their overall gameplan they have taken 20% of all Ukrainian territory with the Donbas about to collapse. If the Popasnya salient expands another 20 KM northwards, 10,000+ Ukrainian troops will be fully enveloped.

Anyways just look at the disparity in firepower. Ukrainians are now sending raw recruits, conscripts from the territorial defense to the frontlines with only a few days or weeks of training. Giving them AK47s and WW1 era machine guns in some cases to go up against tanks, artillery, jets, missiles.

Many Ukrainians are now refusing to fight, saying that their government is using them as cannon fodder, sending them into the "meat grinder". Basically Ukraine is exchanging lives for time in a desperate race against the clock, hoping that more weapons from the west will somehow miraculously turn the tide of the war.

Yeah Russia did the same thing last 10 years. Now we see Russian airforce isn’t the vaunted Killing machine we once thought it was.

Childish antics like this just prove immaturity of the armed force.

I’m all for some pilots horsing around having fun with each other. Iran has done it professionally. But this game of chicken crap just shows they suffer from inferiority complex.

Meanwhile they let the west continue to violate their “zones” of sovereignty in South China Sea.

 

[Blue In Green]

Well to be fair, Russia has only deployed a maximum of 200,000 troops in Ukraine. Their regular army is numbered at 1 million and they have 2 million reserves. The UN says 10,000 people have died in Ukraine. Now they're even talking about prosecuting Russia for war crimes. Meanwhile the war in Iraq killed 1 million Iraqi civilians. Afghanistan, Yemen, millions of children are currently starving but to the west they're invisible.

Russia has so far conducted 2000 missile strikes and 3000 air strikes. Compare that to the 100,000 sorties conducted by the US airforce in the 1st 6 weeks of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

If you remember Crimea, that's how Russia prefers to do things. Avoiding civilian casualties and taking everything intact. They tried using the same tactics in Kiev and it failed miserably. Also they were fighting on a massive front, larger than the German front against Russia in WW2.

Also keep in mind that in the fight for Kiev, Russian troops were outnumbered likely more than 5 to 1 when they should have outnumbered the Ukrainians. Kiev is a city of 3 million and Ukraine conscripted the entire fighting aged male population. They also had some of their best units defending Kiev.

Despite sustaining massive losses during the Kiev campaign, Russian troops still got to the outskirts of the city. They only withdrew once they were ordered to do so and despite everything they were able to withdraw most of their forces in good order and redeploy them.

Realistically Russia has 1000 fighter jets. They're not fighting at their full capacity. But anyways so far after changing their overall gameplan they have taken 20% of all Ukrainian territory with the Donbas about to collapse. If the Popasnya salient expands another 20 KM northwards, 10,000+ Ukrainian troops will be fully enveloped.

Anyways just look at the disparity in firepower. Ukrainians are now sending raw recruits, conscripts from the territorial defense to the frontlines with only a few days or weeks of training. Giving them AK47s and WW1 era machine guns in some cases to go up against tanks, artillery, jets, missiles.

Many Ukrainians are now refusing to fight, saying that their government is using them as cannon fodder, sending them into the "meat grinder". Basically Ukraine is exchanging lives for time in a desperate race against the clock, hoping that more weapons from the west will somehow miraculously turn the tide of the war.

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The war in Ukraine is more of a classic Russian artillery engagement. The reliance on combat aviation isn't needed as much when you have thousands of artillery emplacements doing the vast majority of work against enemy fortifications along the front. -- Cruise-missile/Ballistic-missile launches makes up essentially the entirety of Russian "deep strike" packages. Whilst the Russian air-force could conduct 1,000s of sorties in Ukraine. There really isn't any practical need to do so especially when you're winning with the current methodology being applied.

Donbass will fall to Russia pretty soon and with it goes a significant portion of Ukraine's combat fighting forces due to asinine "stand your ground orders". One side is conducting maneuver warfare, the other is desperately holding onto whatever territory it can.

 

[TheImmortal]

Russia has so far conducted 2000 missile strikes and 3000 air strikes.

Incorrect information

True Russian sortie rates:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1516276211328167936

https://twitter.com/x/status/1524067330246029312

Russia has been consistently running 200-300 sorties per day. And brief periods of high sorties rates like below in late March:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1507698398144643072

The difference here is US airforce is built for air superiority, while Russian airforce is built to deny and protect their advancing front lines from NATO air attacks

I question if that strategy would work. Since even without much of an airforce, Ukraine was able to harass Russian front lines using helicopters, quadcopters, and drones. Imagine if it was NATO with F-35, Rafael, etc

 

[drmeson]

4 x F14 more are being inducted into the current fleet.

The total fleet will be 45.

16 more airframes are available. With Fakour and datalink with the GWACS network, this fleet will threaten any invading party barring F-35.

 

[drmeson]

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Kowsar being evaluated at 23rd TFS, TAB-2 Tabriz

 

[applesauce]

Yeah Russia did the same thing last 10 years. Now we see Russian airforce isn’t the vaunted Killing machine we once thought it was.

Childish antics like this just prove immaturity of the armed force.

I’m all for some pilots horsing around having fun with each other. Iran has done it professionally. But this game of chicken crap just shows they suffer from inferiority complex.

Meanwhile they let the west continue to violate their “zones” of sovereignty in South China Sea.

?? while it's clear you have no love for china and is underestimating chinese capabilities and training but, china has more confidence than iran has ever had. china is playing a large and long game with the us across the world while your most important scientists continue to have "accidents" in broad daylight and your ships get outright seized on the high seas. china was at that point once too, see the yinhe incident, but its unthinkable currently. the us does all these things to you and all iran did was seize a south korean tanker, you dont ever dare to stand up directly to the master behind the strings, must be this "inferiority complex" you're talking about.

also those "zones" are adiz and economic zones, they are international space, and nations are free to overfly/sail through them, they are merely a notification that you will be watched and possibly intercepted. what is considered territory and sovereign is the 12 miles of waters from land/islands and the response there was to militarized them. in fact china said they would not militarize them unless provoked to, and they did exactly that when the US sailed by them. there has been no such close crossing by these armed islands since the constructed was largely complete. the us and its lackies want to play chicken in the international waters? well the response is china will too built towards the capabilities to do the same in their backyard, see the current trip across the pacific islands, and the various spy ships near Australia as well as the break down of the RoC and Japanese air forces under the weight of the sheer numbers of chinese flights towards and in their adiz, to the degree that they publicly announced that they will no longer escort all chinese military flights into their adiz because of air frame and pilot fatigue.

and for the record, just because the us and its lackies find a interception by russia or china to be "unprofessional" does not make it so, and one should not think so by default unless you are a us lackie yourself and take their side in the absence of any evidence. and these interceptions work, modern chinese territorial space is one of the few places the us doesn't dare to fly drones and whatever into on a daily basis, which is much more than any country in the middle east could say.

 

[TheImmortal]

?? while it's clear you have no love for china and is underestimating chinese capabilities and training but, china has more confidence than iran has ever had. china is playing a large and long game with the us across the world while your most important scientists continue to have "accidents" in broad daylight and your ships get outright seized on the high seas. china was at that point once too, see the yinhe incident, but its unthinkable currently. the us does all these things to you and all iran did was seize a south korean tanker, you dont ever dare to stand up directly to the master behind the strings, must be this "inferiority complex" you're talking about.

also those "zones" are adiz and economic zones, they are international space, and nations are free to overfly/sail through them, they are merely a notification that you will be watched and possibly intercepted. what is considered territory and sovereign is the 12 miles of waters from land/islands and the response there was to militarized them. in fact china said they would not militarize them unless provoked to, and they did exactly that when the US sailed by them. there has been no such close crossing by these armed islands since the constructed was largely complete. the us and its lackies want to play chicken in the international waters? well the response is china will too built towards the capabilities to do the same in their backyard, see the current trip across the pacific islands, and the various spy ships near Australia as well as the break down of the RoC and Japanese air forces under the weight of the sheer numbers of chinese flights towards and in their adiz, to the degree that they publicly announced that they will no longer escort all chinese military flights into their adiz because of air frame and pilot fatigue.

and for the record, just because the us and its lackies find a interception by russia or china to be "unprofessional" does not make it so, and one should not think so by default unless you are a us lackie yourself and take their side in the absence of any evidence. and these interceptions work, modern chinese territorial space is one of the few places the us doesn't dare to fly drones and whatever into on a daily basis, which is much more than any country in the middle east could say.

Iran has killed more US soldiers in last 30 years while your workers died for US consumerism. Don’t be a keyboard warrior little China man.

Playing Long game, lol sure. Play the long game, but Xi doesn’t live forever. All you need is one Yeltsin to become “chairmen” of your little tea party and it’s all over.

“One China” is a myth and US actively makes a joke of it. All Chinese government does is release strongly worded press releases and cry on Twitter.

Don’t let your economic powerhouse get to your head and make you arrogant Mr. Keybord warrior. It wasn’t even that long ago that Imperial Japan wiped the floor with China.

Now suddenly you are guys are going to defeat US + NATO + The Quad? With what allies? Bankrupt Pakistan? With what energy sources? If Putin’s dies in 10 years, Russia will be a Western Lackey state as the inner circle crumples.

 

[mohsen]

?? while it's clear you have no love for china and is underestimating chinese capabilities and training but, china has more confidence than iran has ever had. china is playing a large and long game with the us across the world while your most important scientists continue to have "accidents" in broad daylight and your ships get outright seized on the high seas. china was at that point once too, see the yinhe incident, but its unthinkable currently. the us does all these things to you and all iran did was seize a south korean tanker, you dont ever dare to stand up directly to the master behind the strings, must be this "inferiority complex" you're talking about.

also those "zones" are adiz and economic zones, they are international space, and nations are free to overfly/sail through them, they are merely a notification that you will be watched and possibly intercepted. what is considered territory and sovereign is the 12 miles of waters from land/islands and the response there was to militarized them. in fact china said they would not militarize them unless provoked to, and they did exactly that when the US sailed by them. there has been no such close crossing by these armed islands since the constructed was largely complete. the us and its lackies want to play chicken in the international waters? well the response is china will too built towards the capabilities to do the same in their backyard, see the current trip across the pacific islands, and the various spy ships near Australia as well as the break down of the RoC and Japanese air forces under the weight of the sheer numbers of chinese flights towards and in their adiz, to the degree that they publicly announced that they will no longer escort all chinese military flights into their adiz because of air frame and pilot fatigue.

and for the record, just because the us and its lackies find a interception by russia or china to be "unprofessional" does not make it so, and one should not think so by default unless you are a us lackie yourself and take their side in the absence of any evidence. and these interceptions work, modern chinese territorial space is one of the few places the us doesn't dare to fly drones and whatever into on a daily basis, which is much more than any country in the middle east could say.

For whatever they have done, we have retaliated, they killed our scientists, we killed their scientists, they attacked our military assets, we attacked their military assets. in fact, Iran is the only country which has ever attacked a US military site. they attacked our ships, we attacked their ships and even killed their mercenary crew, they seized our tanker, we seized two tankers in return. oil in one of tankers belonged to US, not Greece. apparently your brain doesn't remember certain events! lol

In the end of the day, it's not Iran which is begging US to recognize it's sovereignty over a part of it's soil.

 

[strateger]

The war in Ukraine has taught the world a few things regarding modern combat.

Air defense systems are significantly more important than air-to-air combat aircraft
Drones are essential for combat missions, and for laser/guided artillery. Drones significantly reduce the need for air-to-ground combat aircraft
Laser/guided artillery reduce the need for air-to-ground combat aircraft
Accurate ballistic missiles (like the Iskander, or the Iranian Fateh) significantly reduce the need for air-to-ground combat aircraft
Combat aircrafts biggest role is supporting ground operations and shooting cruise missiles and other guided munitions. Basically mobile cruise missile launchers.

The Russians are using SU-25's, SU-24's, and SU-34's... More than anything, 25's and 24's. The other significant piece of aviation is the KA-52 helicopter.

What that means is for Iran, is that they need 4/5 pieces of aviation. They shouldn't invest anything significant in this area. Just upgrades and the ability to manufacture. Again, this will require Russia to give Iran the build specs for the SU-22, SU-25, and the AL-21 engine.

Kowsars (light attack)
SU-22's (bomb/missile truck)
SU-25's (ground support)
F4's (bomb/missile truck)
Toufan/Panha 2091 helicopters

It flies Mach 2.1, with a service ceiling of 50,000 feet (SU-24 is 36,000 feet... SU-34 is 56,000 feet). Can now fire precision guided bombs, cruise missiles (with 15km range), and Yasin glide bombs which have a 50km range.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Chinese fighter jets have recently pulled maneuvers infront of Canadian and now Australian patrol aircraft in the South China Sea. In this incident, a Chinese J-16 went infront of an Australian P-8 and dispensed flares and chaff. The Australians are claiming that some of the chaff particles got into the P-8s engines. Canada called Chinese maneuvers alarming and Australia described them as highly risky.

well , as long as they didn't release those chaff in front of p8 ,I'd say Australian had no ground for complaint but releasing chaff in front of P8 which is actually is 738-800ESR is very dangerous , if more of the particles entered the engine it could made the engine fail. and easily lead to unnecessary war

Yeah Russia did the same thing last 10 years. Now we see Russian airforce isn’t the vaunted Killing machine we once thought it was.

Childish antics like this just prove immaturity of the armed force.

I’m all for some pilots horsing around having fun with each other. Iran has done it professionally. But this game of chicken crap just shows they suffer from inferiority complex.

Meanwhile they let the west continue to violate their “zones” of sovereignty in South China Sea.

Russians pilots didn't release chaff in front of others , they just made some maneuvers or fly by them. I say Chinese pilot was a little too reckless