Stryker1982
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Sometimes I forget this, even though alot of them have aged.Iran posess 3th largest helicopter fleet in the World
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Sometimes I forget this, even though alot of them have aged.Iran posess 3th largest helicopter fleet in the World
so the solution is to import them from a foreign country instead if using our indigenous capability and renew our fleet in a 5-10 year timetable ?Iran posess 3th largest helicopter fleet in the World, and also large civilian helicopter fleet and passenger aircrafts, there is no way you can rebuild such fleet with Iran domestic industry, it would take too long, that is why if sanctions would ever be lifted, you Will see large order of passenger aircraft.. Russia could not provide Iran passenger aircrafts because their moderne civilian jets have more than 10% OF US parts... But they can help with helicopter fleet, Iran bought already small number of Ka 226 and tested, electra(or how it is called in Iran, remeber seen few in their yellow scheme) operate some, and if I am not mistake, this version exist in Anti submarine role.
so the solution is to import them from a foreign country instead if using our indigenous capability and renew our fleet in a 5-10 year timetable ?
how much Russia want for ka-226 and how much its to produce one based on bell-206 or bell-205 inside our country ?
honestly your comprehension of the discussion and what i say is so low that you even can't understand that i say our indigenous capability is to the extent that we don't need import anything from your master Russia in that regard .Negative comment about Iranian achievements yet again. Iran is doomed if it buys it and doomed if it made it itself since you'd still question why a knob or door was placed slightly in a different place to what you imagined. Would it be better for Iran to produce a bell with zero input from US or manufacturer, or have Ka-226 which will have full Russian support and maybe a chance for ToT? Use your brain!
honestly your comprehension of the discussion and what i say is so low that you even can't understand that i say our indigenous capability is to the extent that we don't need import anything from your master Russia in that regard .
and yes i believe we better produce those helicopter that you think are just copy of bell helicopter than go and beg Russia to give us helicopter and who is you kidding , your master is notorious for not supporting and providing maintenance after selling downgraded equipment .
Full Russia support and TOT , you can go and fool yourself anybody who is followed Russia wont buy your sale pitch.
for god sake this newcomer who left and right belittle Iran capabilities tell me to use my brain if to your indoctrinated culture eastern or western masters are more capable than you and bowing to them is an achievement then here i announce each day and each hour i belittle that achievement and in my country there is no place for guys like you
You should try to get laid more often instead of polluting this forum section with your verbal diarrhea.
You must be one of those insecure Iranian kids living in the same West he loathes, hiding behind his self-deluded sense of Iranian nationalism because his lack of social skills prevent him from getting laid and have caused him to be nothing more than an outcast among his western peers he so secretly abhors.
Clowns like you will never be taken serious, whether in Iran or in the West. Even in this digital space your worthless insights are thrown in the garbage bin.
Yes. I'm one of those Iranians who secretly want the yankees to bomb Iran so I can open a brothel for sexually-frustrated kids like you. There must be market for outcast Iranians living in the west who never truly adopted to their enviroment due to a lack of social skills and are now roaming the digital space with their deep sense of insecurity masquared with a deluded sense of Iranian nationalism.
maybe your master Russia want we think so .Your tiny brain doesn't realise that Iran doesnt have the money nor the manpower nor the time nor the technology to do anything you mentioned.
i mentioned in previous posts m the ones that were built from scratch and the ones that were overhauled , and funny your solution if we could not build 100% of a device import all the device from master Russia not just import the part we can't produce and build the rest , shows who has tiny brain and who lack visions . you guys have always been satisfied to bow in front of your masters.You're not answering my question because you know im right! You have no evidence that Iran can build a bell from scratch to the same or higher standard.
if greatness means bowing to illusionary masters of west and east i prefer always remain little .Youre an old timer which a lot of people have had enough of! Sometimes you need someone new to come and wake people up to what you're doing. You're the one belittling Iran by throwing them into the lions den without any support, because you know that will destroy Iran and you will reach your goal!
maybe your master Russia want we think so .
you showed your true face here
i mentioned in previous posts m the ones that were built from scratch and the ones that were overhauled , and funny your solution if we could not build 100% of a device import all the device from master Russia not just import the part we can't produce and build the rest , shows who has tiny brain and who lack visions . you guys have always been satisfied to bow in front of your masters.
if greatness means bowing to illusionary masters of west and east i prefer always remain little .
Then leave this Anglo-Saxon soil. What is stopping you?
do need utility helicopter to defend ourself , do we lack them ? no your master Russia want to save its aviation industry by selling those helicopter we can build ourselves .Maybe your zionist master wants Iran to be a lamb to slaughter, but you mask it with contrived demand for self efficiency. This is virtue signalling at its worst! So im Russian because I think its okay to trade with them, but you have no issue with Iran being a lackey of the west. Therein lies the double standards!
I mentioned in my previous posts the helicopters that were built from scratch by us and the ones that were overhauled , and funny your solution if we could not build 100% of a device is to import all the device from master Russia not just import the part we can't produce and build the rest , shows who has tiny brain and who lack visions . you guys have always been satisfied to bow in front of your masters.Your second paragraph is absolute illegible and incoherent nonesense. I asked you to show evidence that Iran can build a bell from scratch to the same standards as Bell themselves? Also just because Iran can build bells doesnt mean it should close its doors to trade. Again you suggest Iran to limit itself and shoot itself in the foot, for your zionist liberal masters. My solution is realistic and we get to where we need to be in terms of security faster, than your 200 year plan of self sufficiency.
as i said lack of vision and imagination .You cant have a master of east and west, thats a contradiction.
for that you first must find a post from me that state that we must buy our defensive equipment from west , but I can find thousands of post from you and your friends in just last 1-2 month that said we must import from Russia or attributed our achievement to Russia or said they are copy of Russians products , clearly show who has a masterBut it is clear you're a western liberal who wants Irans downfall...
You are talking like one of those lowlifes South Asians in Britain who similarly can't adopt to their enviroment because of a lack of social skills and cultural sophistication, so they now delude themselves of being part of some kind of vengeful Islamization at the detriment of their Anglo-Saxon overlords.
You are a disgrace to Iranian culture and its image. Seek medical help because you clearly have some screws loose.
do need utility helicopter to defend ourself , do we lack them ? no your master Russia want to save its aviation industry by selling those helicopter we can build ourselves .
I mentioned in my previous posts the helicopters that were built from scratch by us and the ones that were overhauled , and funny your solution if we could not build 100% of a device is to import all the device from master Russia not just import the part we can't produce and build the rest , shows who has tiny brain and who lack visions . you guys have always been satisfied to bow in front of your masters.
as i said lack of vision and imagination .
for that you first must find a post from me that state that we must buy our defensive equipment from west , but I can find thousands of post from you and your friends in just last 1-2 month that said we must import from Russia or attributed our achievement to Russia or said they are copy of Russians products , clearly show who has a master
are we really need them or we are like India that in late 90s went and bought those t-72 Russia called t-90 to save Russia tank industry and then have to praise them once in a while to save face while in reality they only brought them problem , they are under-performing , not suitable for india hot weather , they are a lot more expensive than any t-72 and funny part is Pakistan actually get a lot better deal over T-80 from another country that inherit another part of USSR tank industry
are we on a mission to save Russia aviation industry , i'm afraid very soon we here Iran is interested in Islander missiles and Smerch artillery system
Iran posess 3th largest helicopter fleet in the World,
and also large civilian helicopter fleet and passenger aircrafts, there is no way you can rebuild such fleet with Iran domestic industry, it would take too long, that is why if sanctions would ever be lifted, you Will see large order of passenger aircraft.. Russia could not provide Iran passenger aircrafts because their moderne civilian jets have more than 10% OF US parts... But they can help with helicopter fleet, Iran bought already small number of Ka 226 and tested, electra(or how it is called in Iran, remeber seen few in their yellow scheme) operate some, and if I am not mistake, this version exist in Anti submarine role.
I dont think that there was ever any real serious chance [previously] of iran acquiring these,as the ka-226ts that were being tested in iran used french engines.Indeed I think that the only power plant choices were western,from allison ,to rr,to turbomeca.Can you post any pic of Ka-226 in the Iranian service?