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[VEVAK]

Because its true.

Yes Iran has an old and out dated Air Force! And in Air to Air operations Iranian fighters are no match for the U.S. Air Force SO WHAT? Even if Iran had 250 new Su-30's Iran's Air Force would still be no match for the U.S. Air Force deployed in the region, mainly because aside from their 5th gen fighters U.S. 4th gen Air Superiority fighters are equipped with AESA radars that can be data linked and networked that would allow them to get 8:1 kill ratios (Which means to combat 100 US Air Superiority fighters Iran would need upwards of 800 Su-30's just to come out even) so the only way to truly combat U.S. Air Superiority capabilities over your own territory is NOT with fighters but with Jet powered UCAV's equipped with Air to Air missiles that back up your SAM and Iran could loss twin engines high subsonic jet powered UCAV's equipped with Air to Air missiles and doppler radars at a ratio of 20:1 and the financial sting of it would still be less than loosing a single Su-30 and the operational cost of them would also be far less

And another true fact is that since WW2 U.S. has NOT gone to war with a single country that was even capable of producing it's own ATGM's domestically let alone a county capable of targeting Aircraft bunkers using solid fuel ballistic missiles from 700km away! Let alone a county that's capable of making up for the short comings of it's Air Force with large scale use of domestically built Cruise Missile + Ballistic Missiles + UAV's & UCAV's. + Special forces deployed within 20km of most US bases within 500km of Iran that will be equipped with weapons capable of targeting high value un-bunkered soft targets at those bases.....

You think you can threaten a country capable of producing it's own weapons for decades and that country is not going to build sufficient number weapons capable of targeting every base you've built in the region and that country is not going to plan for how to hit your bases using various tactics and weapons and that county is not going to plan for and build weapons to deny your ships the ability to get anywhere near your shores and that country is not going to build a sufficient number of sensors monitoring your activities and that country is not going to come up with tactics and weapons to combat a superior Air Force...

It was a private speech for government authorities, what he said are clear and constant policies (of IRI) or guide lines which he has stated publicly in the past, they don't publish the actual meetings and discussions.

Also if he don't publicize these frameworks, Reformists wouldn't hesitate to publish their own policies (which some times are 100% against his) as his orders to avoid taking responsibility.

He is spiritual leader, but the main policies are defined/approved by him, he is the reason that Iran wont get the fate of soviet union or Libya.

نظرسیاستمداران جهان درباره مقام معظم رهبری

The MAIN reason Iran won't get the fait of the Soviet Union or Libya or even Syria is the IRGC backed up by the Basij and NOT any one leader! Iran's Supreme Leader could pass away tomorrow and that fact wont change because the IRGC and Basij are there and they are able to arm over a million loyal volunteers instantly with millions more to back them up if need be!

 

[WinterNights]

It was a private speech for government authorities, what he said are clear and constant policies (of IRI) or guide lines which he has stated publicly in the past, they don't publish the actual meetings and discussions.

Also if he don't publicize these frameworks, Reformists wouldn't hesitate to publish their own policies (which some times are 100% against his) as his orders to avoid taking responsibility.

He is spiritual leader, but the main policies are defined/approved by him, he is the reason that Iran wont get the fate of soviet union or Libya.

نظرسیاستمداران جهان درباره مقام معظم رهبری

The problem is bro, these people are not putting the leader's word into action. How many times does he need to say the same thing. How many times does he need to talk about resistant economy. He needs to be more proactive and make sure these policies are being implemented, especially at these difficult times.

 

[Oldman1]

Well in order to use their air force to bring war inside of Iran first they need to protect those AC and also all air bases they would use in the region ... it's not as easy as it portrays ... plus Iran BVR capabilities put Iranian fighter jet in a better position to engage with American fighter jet and as far as presence of Iran air defense system it won't be a piece of cake though I admire American air force and its birds capabilities ...

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If this was just air force vs air force only and excluding everything else. No cruise missiles, smart decoys, drones, AWACS, fuel tankers, submarines and warships, etc.

 

[T-72B]

The MAIN reason Iran won't get the fait of the Soviet Union or Libya or even Syria is the IRGC backed up by the Basij and NOT any one leader! Iran's Supreme Leader could pass away tomorrow and that fact wont change because the IRGC and Basij are there and they are able to arm over a million loyal volunteers instantly with millions more to back them up if need be!

So what about Khamis Brigade and Revolutionary guards of Gaddafi regime?
Why they failed to secure the Gaddafi regime? Their job is similar to Basij and IRGC right?

 

[WinterNights]

If this was just air force vs air force only and excluding everything else. No cruise missiles, smart decoys, drones, AWACS, fuel tankers, submarines and warships, etc.

But Iran will not just go airforce vs airforce against the US so such hypothetical scenarios are meaningless.

 

[mohsen]

Well all I can say is put the koolaide down, This is a clergyman, educated in the ways of Islam. He's no Henry Kissinger, if he's setting the course for the country...we're screwed.

He is way beyond Kissinger, he and his predecessor have been setting our path, and I'm satisfied with it (regardless of the drivers' performance).
There is no soft and easy path to independence.

The MAIN reason Iran won't get the fait of the Soviet Union or Libya or even Syria is the IRGC backed up by the Basij and NOT any one leader! Iran's Supreme Leader could pass away tomorrow and that fact wont change because the IRGC and Basij are there and they are able to arm over a million loyal volunteers instantly with millions more to back them up if need be!

The whole soviet military gear couldn't stop it's fall.

Libya didn't lack soldiers too, but these defenseless soldiers couldn't stop American's air campaign against themselves, Libya's last deterrence was it's missiles which could endanger the Israel, but stupid Qaddafi surrendered them to get friendly with Americans.

 

[TheImmortal]

So what about Khamis Brigade and Revolutionary guards of Gaddafi regime?
Why they failed to secure the Gaddafi regime? Their job is similar to Basij and IRGC right?

Ghaddafi army was about to rout the rebels and had the trapped when NATO air power intervened and decimated his forces.

NATO waged a heavy air campaign on all of Gaddafi’s assets to the point panic set in. With no external backers (Russia), Libya army began unraveling and the rest is history.

Gaddafi would never have fallen were it not for NATO intervention.

 

[Ich]

Well all I can say is put the koolaide down, This is a clergyman, educated in the ways of Islam. He's no Henry Kissinger, if he's setting the course for the country...we're screwed.

Well, if you dont know it before, let me inform you: Khamenei was at front of Irak-Iran war. He was (and today is again) head of the iranian military in Irak-Iran war. There are a lot of photos showing him there. And he was succesful doing so. And he lead Iran to a level of education, reaserch and development what is in top 20 or better in the world. And that while coming out of a long war and going through decades of sanctions.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Well, if you dont know it before, let me inform you: Khamenei was at front of Irak-Iran war. He was (and today is again) head of the iranian military in Irak-Iran war. There are a lot of photos showing him there. And he was succesful doing so. And he lead Iran to a level of education, reaserch and development what is in top 20 or better in the world. And that while coming out of a long war and going through decades of sanctions.

As I recall, In Iran - Iraq war Mr. Khomeini between 1360 to 1362 oversaw war effort, in 1362 for several month Mr. Khamenei oversaw the war effort instead of him then in the winter of 1362 he assigned Mr. Rafsanjani to oversaw the war effort and put him as the Head of Khatam-Al-Anbia Central Headquarter and Mr. Rouhani was his Deputy .
Mr. Khamenei Post was Iran President , and The Head of Supreme Council to support war effort from 1366 to the end of war he also was the Head of Supreme council of National defense from 1360 to the end of war.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Well all I can say is put the koolaide down, This is a clergyman, educated in the ways of Islam. He's no Henry Kissinger, if he's setting the course for the country...we're screwed.

I'm not one to glorify Khamenei, but I think he does at the very least steer Iran towards broad objectives. Our relations with the East and West, nuclear program, nature of the economy and even some specific military items (for example I often hear Bavar-373's development was started at Khamenei's order) are his decisions. He sets directions and everyone in government sets them in motion.

 

[Sineva]

So what about Khamis Brigade and Revolutionary guards of Gaddafi regime?
Why they failed to secure the Gaddafi regime? Their job is similar to Basij and IRGC right?

Because the libyan military in fine arab fashion was a joke,much like gaddaffy himself in fact.
He trusted his enemies while turning his back on his natural allies,and the end result was oh so very predictable.

 

[Sineva]

I found another pic of the su22 forces new weapons,especially the glide bomb

 

[mohsen]

IRIAF Chinook hard landing near karaj, all 5 crew are fine.

یک فروند بالگرد شینوک ارتش دچار سانحه شد/سرنشینان سالم هستند+عکس

 

[Trango Towers]

Yes Iran has an old and out dated Air Force! And in Air to Air operations Iranian fighters are no match for the U.S. Air Force SO WHAT? Even if Iran had 250 new Su-30's Iran's Air Force would still be no match for the U.S. Air Force deployed in the region, mainly because aside from their 5th gen fighters U.S. 4th gen Air Superiority fighters are equipped with AESA radars that can be data linked and networked that would allow them to get 8:1 kill ratios (Which means to combat 100 US Air Superiority fighters Iran would need upwards of 800 Su-30's just to come out even) so the only way to truly combat U.S. Air Superiority capabilities over your own territory is NOT with fighters but with Jet powered UCAV's equipped with Air to Air missiles that back up your SAM and Iran could loss twin engines high subsonic jet powered UCAV's equipped with Air to Air missiles and doppler radars at a ratio of 20:1 and the financial sting of it would still be less than loosing a single Su-30 and the operational cost of them would also be far less

And another true fact is that since WW2 U.S. has NOT gone to war with a single country that was even capable of producing it's own ATGM's domestically let alone a county capable of targeting Aircraft bunkers using solid fuel ballistic missiles from 700km away! Let alone a county that's capable of making up for the short comings of it's Air Force with large scale use of domestically built Cruise Missile + Ballistic Missiles + UAV's & UCAV's. + Special forces deployed within 20km of most US bases within 500km of Iran that will be equipped with weapons capable of targeting high value un-bunkered soft targets at those bases.....

You think you can threaten a country capable of producing it's own weapons for decades and that country is not going to build sufficient number weapons capable of targeting every base you've built in the region and that country is not going to plan for how to hit your bases using various tactics and weapons and that county is not going to plan for and build weapons to deny your ships the ability to get anywhere near your shores and that country is not going to build a sufficient number of sensors monitoring your activities and that country is not going to come up with tactics and weapons to combat a superior Air Force...



The MAIN reason Iran won't get the fait of the Soviet Union or Libya or even Syria is the IRGC backed up by the Basij and NOT any one leader! Iran's Supreme Leader could pass away tomorrow and that fact wont change because the IRGC and Basij are there and they are able to arm over a million loyal volunteers instantly with millions more to back them up if need be!

If only air combat was that simple...
Iran woukd go after american bases in the region as well as aircraft carriers right from the word go. They hit one aircraft carrier it could well be a game changer

 

[VEVAK]

He is way beyond Kissinger, he and his predecessor have been setting our path, and I'm satisfied with it (regardless of the drivers' performance).
There is no soft and easy path to independence.


The whole soviet military gear couldn't stop it's fall.

Libya didn't lack soldiers too, but these defenseless soldiers couldn't stop American's air campaign against themselves, Libya's last deterrence was it's missiles which could endanger the Israel, but stupid Qaddafi surrendered them to get friendly with Americans.

As for USSR the ONLY time a Communist government could potentially work is if they stay out of people religious ideology and you practically put an end to Science & Technology by reaching the heights of what's humanly possible in every field where Robots & printers do all the labor from complex surgery to cooking and cleaning where every disease has a cure, every medicine needed is produced automatically, most advanced engines humanly possible is easily printed, gravity has been mastered and humans have colonized & mines other planets, schooling has been replaced by uploads to your brain & worst jobs on earth have been reduced to relaying commands to a robots for a few hours out of your day and most dangerous jobs are deep space explorations and wars on earth have ended so basically in 500 years if we haven't kill the planet by then a communist government could work

As for Libya there is a difference between a country falling directly because of a leaders stupidity and saying the only reason the Islamic Republic hasn't fallen is because of a specific individual.

Also death is a certainty of life at least for now and I don't think the IRGC or the Basij would sit by and allow a few idiots to hand over our missiles and I have no doubt that even after the Supreme leader passes away any Iranian leaders that even attempt to hand over our missiles will likely be assassinated.