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You don't need 1500 people to train an army. US found out the Kurds can't fight and will use these 1500 real soldiers to protect consulate and if needed evacuate.

How many people do you need to train an army then if it's 300K personnel you need to train
 
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'Train'? Obviously they're on the ground leading the counter-offensives.

Video's of the todays & yesterdays Baiji army offensive shows no US forces, I doubt any Americans will be fighting theres no need and they don't want it. If anything they will use the Apaches and AC-130's more often taking risks.
 
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How many people do you need to train an army then if it's 300K personnel you need to train
I doubt they have 300k soldiers. If KRG really has that amount and was overrun by 10 000 invading ISIS militia during siege of Erbil. It only says that no matter what kind of training they get (after the years of training they already gotten from US/Germany/Israel), fancy clothing and toys they receive, it won't matter. They aren't fighting material. Wearing an US uniform doesn't make you a better fighter. Peshmerga are just clowns with fancy US clothing and with a big mouth. Mark my words.
 
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I doubt they have 300k soldiers. If KRG really has that amount and was overrun by 10 000 invading ISIS militia during siege of Erbil. It only says that no matter what kind of training they get (after the years of training they already gotten from US/Germany/Israel), fancy clothing and toys they receive, it won't matter. They aren't fighting material.

No not KRG, but those 1500 aren't just for KRG they're to be sent to Baghdad and Arbil. For training and other commander positions it's a normal number.
 
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The latest reports over the past weeks indicate that IS is losing a lot of ground so I don't believe the Consulate will be under any threat. The Kurds got a lot of air support so it seems they've secured a large amount of the north which is surprising. Kurds are big obstacle to IS, if they lose ground it will open way for IS to encircle Iraqi forces and head to Baghdad.

Kurds can't fight :rofl:
We've been training Iraqi/Afghani forces for well over a decade and yet the Kurds are handling just fine with less training and equipment.

we should of backed then long ago :bounce:
it's all about morale and motivation and the Kurds have those two traits.
 
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Kurds can't fight :rofl:
We've been training Iraqi/Afghani forces for well over a decade and yet the Kurds are handling just fine with less training and equipment.

we should of backed then long ago :bounce:
it's all about morale and motivation and the Kurds have those two traits.
Your fancy dressed clowns in US uniforms haven't made an inch of an advance on ISIS. Putting aside the media hype. They haven't been any better than Iraqi forces. Having fancy US uniforms don't make you a better fighter :lol:
 
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Your fancy dressed clowns in US uniforms haven't made an inch of an advance on ISIS. Putting aside the media hype. They haven't been any better than Iraqi forces. Having fancy US uniforms don't make you a better fighter :lol:


fancy U.S uniforms :o:
 
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Kurds can't fight :rofl:
We've been training Iraqi/Afghani forces for well over a decade and yet the Kurds are handling just fine with less training and equipment.

we should of backed then long ago :bounce:
it's all about morale and motivation and the Kurds have those two traits.

Why are you quoting me? I wasn't the one who said that. :lol:
 
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Fresh Iraq blasts kill at least 31 in Baghdad

By Staff writer, Al Arabiya News
Saturday, 8 November 2014
A wave of car bombs struck Shiite-majority areas of Baghdad on Saturday, killing at least 31 people, Agence France-Presse reported security and medical officials as saying.

The six car bombs, which hit five different areas of the Iraqi capital, also wounded more than 90 people.

The deadliest single attack struck Sinaa Street in Baghdad’s central Karrada district, killing at least 10.

Prior to the new blasts in Baghdad, Reuters reported that car bombs killed 12 people, including five soldiers, in the capital and the city of Ramadi to the west, citing police and medical sources as saying.

The attacks resembled operations carried out by Islamic State of Iraq and Syria militants.

Baghdad is hit by near-daily bombings and shootings, some of which have been claimed by ISIS jihadist group, which has overrun large third of the country since June.

ISIS and other Sunni extremist groups consider Shiites to be heretics and frequently target them in attacks.

Suicide bomber in northern Iraq
Late Friday, a suicide truck bomber targeting a senior police officer’s convoy in northern Iraq killed eight people, including the ranking official, authorities said Saturday.

The attack happened when the suicide attacker drove his bomb-laden truck into the convoy of police Lt. Gen. Faisal Malik, who was inspecting troops in the town of Beiji, the Associated Press reported the police as saying.

The blast killed Faisal and seven police officers, while wounding 15 people, hospital officials and police officers said.

No one immediately claimed the attack, however ISIS have used bombings to fend off Iraqi security forces trying to retake Ramadi and other strongholds.

Beiji, home to Iraq’s largest oil refinery, is 250 kilometers (155 miles) north of Baghdad.

Meanwhile, Western and Iraqi officials say U.S.-led air strikes are not enough to defeat the al-Qaeda offshoot that holds parts of Iraq and Syria and is fighting to expand what it calls a caliphate.

Iraq must improve the performance of its army and security forces in order to eliminate the threat from the group, which wants to redraw the map of the Middle East, the officials say.

President Barack Obama has approved sending up to 1,500 more troops to Iraq, roughly doubling the number of U.S. forces on the ground.

Last Update: Saturday, 8 November 2014 KSA 20:57 - GMT 17:57

http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/11/08/Car-bombs-kill-12-in-Baghdad-Ramadi.html
 
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Kurdish government gains freedom of Yezidi captives for $1.5 million
By RUDAW 4/11/2014
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Osman said that bringing the rescued captives a Peshmerga-controlled save-heaven “has been the main challenge of the process.”
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region—The Kurdish government said on Monday that it has purchased the freedom of 234 Yezidi captives from the Islamic State (IS) in return for $1.5 million paid to intermediaries.

Dr. Nuri Osman, a native of Shingal and Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) official for Yezidi affairs told Rudaw that 150 of the freed Yezidis are women and 84 are men.

“We are not paying any money to the IS,” said Osman. “We pay the people who are helping us and it doesn't matter to us whether they buy them from the IS.”

“What matters is rescuing the person,” he added.

Osman said that the rescue effort is lengthy and complicated.

“Each case has its own story,” he explained. “In some cases we have paid ransom and in other cases the person has escaped and we have facilitated it.”

The freed men and women were among hundreds of Yezidi Kurds taken captive by IS militants when they attacked the town of Shingal and other Yezidi villages near Mosul in August.

Osman said that bringing the rescued captives to a Peshmerga-controlled save-heaven “has been the main challenge of the process.”

The KRG official said that different intermediary groups are involved in getting the Yezidi captives out.

“Not all of them [intermediaries] are Arabs, there are Kurds too,” he said.

Osman said that 30 of the freed men and women had been brought back from Syria.

“The people who were abducted aren't only within the borders of Iraq,” he said. “The men and women we brought back from Syria were Yezidis and residents of Shingal.”

Osman said that his office paid a $10,000 ransom for two men’s freedom and $20,000 for five women.

“The total amount of money we have spent hasn't all been in ransom,” he said. “Transportation is more expensive. The captives are at risk and we have to arrange their transfer from IS-controlled territories to our areas.”

Osman said that the freed Yezidis have undergone “intense abuse in captivity and they are put in the care of special medical teams and psychiatrist therapy immediately upon return.”


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Islamic State deserters arrested sneaking into Kirkuk
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Islamic State militants executed 322 members of the Albu Nimr tribe at close range for their rebellion in October. Photo: AP
By Hiwa Husamaddin in Kirkuk and Alexander Whitcomb in Erbil

KIRKUK, Kurdistan Region – Hundreds of former Islamic State fighters have been arrested trying to cross into Kurdish territory, according to Kirkuk security officials.

“Recently, many Sunni Arabs who were fighting for ISIS south of Kirkuk have escaped into Kirkuk using fake military and civilian ID cards to pass through the checkpoints,” said Sarhad Abdulqadir, police chief of Kirkuk municipality.

Abdulqadir’s forces had arrested these individuals, who admitted they had deserted ISIS forces and obtained forged IDs in Hawija. Some of them used real IDs taken from Iraqi Security soldiers. Some arrived with bullet wounds.

According to security officials, 365 former members of the Iraqi police and military turned themselves into the Peshmerga in the Kirkuk area.

“They have all been arrested under Article No. 4, the terrorism law,” said Adnan Taha, brigadier-general in the Peshmerga. “We are keeping them in the prison as they await trial.”

A number of fugitive ISIS members had overdosed on pills or otherwise faked illness in order to be admitted to hospital in Kirkuk.

“These fighters ran away to Kirkuk and each of them used a number of excuses,” said Idris Riffat, head of security of Kirkuk. “Some of them faked medical reports to show that they were ill, some dressed up as women, others posed as students in order to be let in into the city of Kirkuk. But our continuous security operations have foiled their plans.”

Riffat also said that they recently captured many such individuals in hotels, checkpoints and hospitals.

“We have gathered information about those who intend to sneak into Kirkuk and shared this with the checkpoint personnel, security, Peshmerga, and the police of Kirkuk in order to stop them,” he added.

Defectors must provide elaborate excuses because Kurdish security officials have limited the traffic from ISIS-controlled territory.

Transportation between Kirkuk and Hawija through Maktab Khalid checkpoint had been relatively easy until a number of explosions inside Kirkuk and along that road prompted local officials to close the checkpoint to most automobile and pedestrian traffic.

“This gate is open again by the decision of the Kirkuk administration,” said Hiwa Abdullah, spokesman of the Peshmerga forces on the Kirkuk front. “However passage is conditional. Those who want to go into Kirkuk must be either from Kirkuk, or supported by a resident living in Kirkuk, or have a formal permission for the purpose of getting treatment in the hospitals of Kirkuk. Also, their stay in Kirkuk must be temporary.”

Abdullah also said they have blocked all young people from entering the city, unless their names are registered with the security agencies or they were former police or military members who came to turn themselves in to the police.

“But even these individuals will be arrested and turned in to the appropriate authorities for investigation,” Abdullah added.

The arrests accompany rumours that Arab tribes in the outskirt of Hawija, Riyadh, Rashad, and Beiji have formed armed groups and have begun to stage attacks against the militant organization.

Kirkuk security forces believe there is growing discontent following the brutal executions of tribal members who refused to pay taxes and abide by ISIS-imposed rules. Those killed included the administrator of Hawija, Ahmed Assi, more than a week ago.

“So far we have heard lots of rumours, but there has been no official word and they haven’t reached out to us for help,” said Major General Rasul Omar Latif, commander of the Peshmerga operation room in Kirkuk.

Citing the massacre of 322 Albu Nimr tribe members after the tribe’s rebellion against ISIS in October, “as well as atrocities committed against many other clans”, Latif said: “We think that the Arabs must help themselves and fight back.”

“But they need to be assisted by the Iraqi government,” he added. “We need all the help we can get, and so do they.”
 
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