Iraq unveils indigenous UAV

[Philip the Arab]

Iraq's State Company for Military Industries (SCMI) unveiled a new unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) during the IQDEX show held in Baghdad in March.

SCMI displayed the UAV for the first time at IQDEX. (Mohammed Najib)

"The UAV has [been] intensively used in the recent Iraqi security forces war against Daish," Jalal Hussein, SCMI's chief engineer, told Jane's , using the Arabic acronym for the Islamic State militant group.

He added that Iraqi security forces have shown serious interest in acquiring the UAV to support their operations, while he indicated that his engineers are developing more capable cameras for it and considering the possibility of arming it with bombs.

The fixed-wing UAV has a 3 m length, 4 m wingspan, and is powered by a 220 cc engine. It has a maximum speed of 175 km/hour, a cruising speed of 135 km/hour, a service ceiling of 3,500 m, a range of up to 80 km, an endurance of up to 8 hours, and a 30 kg payload, according to SCMI.

 

[Sulman Badshah]

looks good

 

[WinterNights]

That's the Iranian Mohajem (Attacker) 92. I assume it's either a license production or made via TOT from Iran.

 

[BordoEnes]

Looks like a nice decent drone, especially considering its their first. Looking forward to more developments in the Iraqi weapons industry.

 

[Philip the Arab]

That's the Iranian Mohajem (Attacker) 92. I assume it's either a license production or made via TOT from Iran.

Reverse engineering maybe?

 

[WinterNights]

Reverse engineering maybe?

Reverse engineering is no easy feat, it's extremely unlikely they have that capability, even for a relatively lesser advanced UAV (compared to the rest of the Iranian UAV's anyway). For every part of this UAV (ranging from the composite body, to electronics etc.)they need to have the technology to reverse engineer and to reproduce it.

Anyway, to reverse engineer, they would have to get one first, so if Iran did give them one, it is logical to assume Iran probably just gave them TOT. If you look carefully, you can see they're even using the same engine.

It's a decent UAV with good capabilities and at a cheap price. Will help Iraqi armed forces well. A newer version of this UAV is in service with Iranian airforce armed with mini cruise missiles:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iria...ring-akhgar-miniature-cruise-missiles.604847/

 

[OldTwilight]

Reverse engineering is no easy feat, it's extremely unlikely they have that capability, even for a relatively lesser advanced UAV (compared to the rest of the Iranian UAV's anyway). For every part of this UAV (ranging from the composite body, to electronics etc.)they need to have the technology to reverse engineer and to reproduce it.

Anyway, to reverse engineer, they would have to get one first, so if Iran did give them one, it is logical to assume Iran probably just gave them TOT. If you look carefully, you can see they're even using the same engine.

It's a decent UAV with good capabilities and at a cheap price. Will help Iraqi armed forces well. A newer version of this UAV is in service with Iranian airforce armed with mini cruise missiles:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/iria...ring-akhgar-miniature-cruise-missiles.604847/

Do you know in 1980s and 1990s Iraq military industry was far ahead of Iran !?

 

[WinterNights]

Do you know in 1980s and 1990s Iraq military industry was far ahead of Iran !?

Buying hardware and producing them yourself are two completely different things.

 

[OldTwilight]

Buying hardware and producing them yourself are two completely different things.

I was talking about military industry which mean "design and produce" not buying ...

 

[WinterNights]

I was talking about military industry which mean "design and produce" not buying ...

Given Iran at the time had barely started its defence industry, I'd say it would not be any achievement for any nation to claim to have been "ahead" of Iran at that time.

 

[OldTwilight]

Given Iran at the time had barely started its defence industry, I'd say it would not be any achievement for any nation to claim to have been "ahead" of Iran at that time.

I was just reminding you some facts ... and Iran start its defense industry in 1960s and 1970s and we had planned to assemble F16 in Iran , TOT Shir Iran MBT ( Challenger ) in Iran and had an advanced helicopter building and maintan in Isfahan ....

so we were ahead of all of our neighbors in 1970s but due the revolution , we stalled ...

 

[WinterNights]

I was just reminding you some facts ...
.

What facts? Iraqis barely had any design and produce capability. They attempted to play around with some missiles which failed terribly. Other than a few small things they had nothing. Everything major they had was purchased.

and Iran start its defense industry in 1960s and 1970s and we had planned to assemble F16 in Iran , TOT Shir Iran MBT ( Challenger ) in Iran and had an advanced helicopter building and maintan in Isfahan ....

so we were ahead of all of our neighbors in 1970s but due the revolution , we stalled ..

Come on! are you serious? Iran had almost zero indigenous capability before the revolution. All those assembling you're referring to were all run by the foreigners. Go look at some of the documentaries on such matters.

 

[OldTwilight]

What facts? Iraqis barely had any design and produce capability. They attempted to play around with some missiles which failed terribly. Other than a few small things they had nothing. Everything major they had was purchased.



Come on! are you serious? Iran had almost zero indigenous capability before the revolution. All those assembling you're referring to were all run by the foreigners. Go look at some of the documentaries on such matters.

well , except BM and Drone , what we are making ingeniously !? Iran doesn't have resource and time to make everything insidiously and others won't wait for us .... so even today we have help or bought things from black market or reverse engineering things ,( like American Drones )

 

[WinterNights]

well , except BM and Drone , what we are making ingeniously !? Iran doesn't have resource and time to make everything insidiously and others won't wait for us .... so even today we have help or bought things from black market or reverse engineering things ,( like American Drones )

Bro, are you trying to pull my leg? Iran makes almost everything it needs today. Where have you been in the last 15 years? You mentioned BM's and Drones. Okay, what about all the radars? SAM's? submarines? small and heavy arms? Want me to keep going?

There is nothing wrong with reverse engineering. That's how all pragmatic nations should start if they're limited for time etc. People talk about R/E as if it's something easy...in most cases it's more difficult than making a new system. As for black market, no nation will make 100% of all the components needed for a system...it's just not economical. So of course some components will be purchased, that does not mean however that we could not produce said component if need be.

Anyway, we're taking this thread off track. If you want to continue this discussion, tag me in Iranian chill thread.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

Hope they encrypt control communications for that