Iraq eyes potential MiG-29 procurement

[Kompromat]

In the end Mig-29 ended up in the scrap shop, that is what matters.

And in many of those instances the Mig-29s got into turning dogfights where they had superior advantages in Climb, high off bore missiles, HMS, low AOA, etc. The inexperienced Mig-29 pilots failed to capitalize on their advantages, were experiencing Mig-29 regularly moped the floor with F-16s.

It wasn't so much that the Mig-29 was a bad aircraft or the F-16/15 were so much better, it was the fact that the Mig-29 pilots were piss poor. In at least one instance a Mig-29 or perhaps mirage (either way they were Iraqi) got into a turning dogfight with an F-15. The F-15 scored a "kill" because the Iraqi pilot crashed.


You also forget that in Iraq and Yugoslavia coalition forces were aided by AWACS while Amiga were not (big disadvantage for the Mig-29). Stick Zimbabwe pilots in F-15s and have them face experienced Russian, Indian or Polish Mig-29 pilots with AWACS. Those F-15s would also be scrap metal.

 

[ptldM3]

In the end Mig-29 ended up in the scrap shop, that is what matters.

Very narrow mind set. You know very well that AWACS plays a big role in combat, something the Mig-29 did not have the luxury of. Pilots also play a major role. You are brushing off the Mig-29 as a bad aircraft based off of disadvantages that had nothing to do with the aircrafts abilities.


When everything is equal such as pilots and AWACS, the Mig-29 usually comes out as the winner.

 

[Malik Alashter]

Very narrow mind set. You know very well that AWACS plays a big role in combat, something the Mig-29 did not have the luxury of. Pilots also play a major role. You are brushing off the Mig-29 as a bad aircraft based off of disadvantages that had nothing to do with the aircrafts abilities.


When everything is equal such as pilots and AWACS, the Mig-29 usually comes out as the winner.

The reason for his reply is that they use F-16 while Indian use migs.

I got your Idea but also my point valid about the Russians them selves neglected the mig in favor of the sukhoi-30.

 

[Manindra]

The reason for his reply is that they use F-16 while Indian use migs.

Or may trying to take out his frustration that same piss poor MIG 29 locked on F-16 in 1999 while escorting Mirage 2000

I got your Idea but also my point valid about the Russians them selves neglected the mig in favor of the sukhoi-30.

Because Fulcrums are short legged ( Russia is world's largest country) & have very unreliable engine initially.

 

[barbarosa]

Who plant the tree and who eat its fruits.USA should think before the action. A great lesson for USA.

 

[Echo_419]

Very narrow mind set. You know very well that AWACS plays a big role in combat, something the Mig-29 did not have the luxury of. Pilots also play a major role. You are brushing off the Mig-29 as a bad aircraft based off of disadvantages that had nothing to do with the aircrafts abilities.


When everything is equal such as pilots and AWACS, the Mig-29 usually comes out as the winner.

You are arguing with a wall

 

[madmusti]

This is the MiG-29 and why it is a Legend :

 

[bdslph]

mig 29 is a sexy aircraft
i guess Iraq might buy the mig29 smt m2m1
i would rather tell IAF to buy su30 mig35 su 34 su 35 somthing like that