Iranian Space program

[AUz]

First phase of this CM with 300 km range will be unveiled this year. Second phase with longer range will be unveiled next year.

That'd be awesome. Hopefully, it exceeds expectations in a positive way. Do we know the name of the project or that hasnt been published yet?

 

[RΛIDEN]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1700846355642458117

 

[aryobarzan]

Iran's new Chabahar space port will be ready by the 2024 for launch

• Being constructed in three phases
• Phase 1 at 50% completion
• phase 1 will be ready next year to launch solid fuel SLVs

Chabahar space port rendering from a decade ago.

دلیریان ادامه داد: پایگاه ملی پرتاب چابهار دارای ۳فاز اصلی است و امروز در میانه‌ی اجرای فاز اول این پروژه قرار داریم و امیدواریم در نیمه اول سال ۱۴۰۳ این پایگاه قابلیت پرتاب ماهواره‌های «خورشید آهنگ» توسط پرتابگرهای سوخت جامد را پیدا کند و ما بتوانیم اولین پرتاب‌ها را سال آینده از این پایگاه داشته باشیم.

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[HGV]

Iran's new Chabahar space port will be ready by the 2024 for launch

• Being constructed in three phases
• Phase 1 at 50% completion
• phase 1 will be ready next year to launch solid fuel SLVs

End of 2024 for phase 1 (small solid fuel SLVs) is realistic but slow.

The real news is phase 3, but this appears many years away. Not a big issue as Iran doesn't have those SLVs yet anyway.

 

[LegionnairE]

That's not how it works, though. If the IRIAF has ordered -- let's say 24 Su-35s -- they'll obviously be ordering a compliment of weapons to go with those aircraft which will either come out of existing stock (depending on availability and if Iran agrees to that because it would depend on how old they are and their shelf life etc.) or they'll be manufactured specifically for that export order. Iran could also request they all be brand spanking new as well. Russian factories will have to get busy and produce all the missiles within a certain time frame as per contract. That's how it works.

Sure but Su-35 is primarily an air superiority fighter. It is highly unlikely that Russia has ALCMs to spare.

I find it difficult to believe that any Su-35 deliveries will take place before the end of the war anyway.

Using it as a multi-role platform might take even longer.

and @tsunset

I don't know if China would be willing to sell their more advanced weapons to Iran at this point but at least they have the availability. Russia on the other hand, yes they have an abundance of certain systems but they are critically low on precision guided missiles and are having trouble scaling up their production with the sanctions in place.

So we end up in a situation that Russia is willing but unable, China is unwilling but able. That might change very quickly once the waters around taiwan heats up.

 

[TheImmortal]

End of 2024 for phase 1 (small solid fuel SLVs) is realistic but slow.

The real news is phase 3, but this appears many years away. Not a big issue as Iran doesn't have those SLVs yet anyway.

Shouldn’t have taken 10+ years to build phase 1.

That’s the time it takes to build and bring a nuclear reactor online.

Just goes to show that space is not a major priority at the current moment. Understandable given the immense economic strain Iran has been placed under being cut off from global financial systems and exporting a reduced % of oil.

 

[LegionnairE]

f-14 flying with su-35 radar mean it can't launch AIM-54 and Maqsood when it become operational

We discussed this briefly but and not many people want to understand but SARH is an outdated mode of guidance so those missiles need urgent upgrades as well. In a few years Fakour could be receiving a PESA/AESA seeker itself.

@SalarHaqq

I was talking about Iranian Navy C-802 missiles

 

[HGV]

We discussed this briefly but and not many people want to understand but SARH is an outdated mode of guidance so those missiles need urgent upgrades as well. In a few years Fakour could be receiving a PESA/AESA seeker itself.

@SalarHaqq

I was talking about Iranian Navy C-802 missiles

@waz are users permitted to circumvent a thread ban by seeking to carry on an existing discussion from that thread into a different, unrelated, thread, thereby spamming this thread (on the Iranian Space program) with irrelevant posts?

 

[jauk]

Shouldn’t have taken 10+ years to build phase 1.

That’s the time it takes to build and bring a nuclear reactor online.

Just goes to show that space is not a major priority at the current moment. Understandable given the immense economic strain Iran has been placed under being cut off from global financial systems and exporting a reduced % of oil.

True, but stringing people along with baseless pronouncements should cease.

 

[Arash1991]

We discussed this briefly but and not many people want to understand but SARH is an outdated mode of guidance so those missiles need urgent upgrades as well. In a few years Fakour could be receiving a PESA/AESA seeker itself.

@SalarHaqq

I was talking about Iranian Navy C-802 missiles

Iranian C802? They still exist ?

 

[tsunset]

Iranian C802? They still exist ?

I had an argument on another forum with a guy thinking that Iran was still operating Silkworm and C-704/701 missiles, the guy was doing a demo on DCS with Iran launching Silkworms with C-704s in mass on US warships in the PG map

If someone can explain with knowledge how Iran achieved its current subsonic antiship cruise missile arsenal it would be appreciated to close the Chinese export missiles subject off, Iran certainly used C-802s as starting bases but i'm pretty sure barely a standard C-802 export missile is still operated in Iran

edit: wrong thread

 

[Sapei]

Is it true that after all these years, Iran has not been able to put more than 52kg in orbit? The industry seems to really be neglected.

Meanwhile, Turkiye is expected to put 100kg at a 300km orbit later this year. Turkiye is a newcomer to SLVs and they are moving quickly. At this point, I had expected Iran to be able to put several tons in LEO.

 

[HGV]

Is it true that after all these years, Iran has not been able to put more than 52kg in orbit? The industry seems to really be neglected.

Iran is on the cusp of putting 200-300kg payloads into 500km LEO. No other country in the region has put anything into orbit.

Meanwhile, Turkiye is expected to put 100kg at a 300km orbit later this year.

Expected is a big word. I have been asking about that claim in the Turkish Space thread a lot, but have not received any answers or updates.

Turkiye is a newcomer to SLVs and they are moving quickly. At this point, I had expected Iran to be able to put several tons in LEO.

Amazing how you say this before they have even put a microsat into LEO.

 

[Sapei]

Iran is on the cusp of putting 200-300kg payloads into 500km LEO. No other country in the region has put anything into orbit.

But haven't we been hearing this for years now? What vehicle and when?

Expected is a big word. I have been asking about that claim in the Turkish Space thread a lot, but have not received any answers or updates.

Obviously, a lot of things can go wrong. However, they've had multiple successes with validating the launch vehicles technologies. Last month they tested the vehicle itself in a sub-orbital flight.

Amazing how you say this before they have even put a microsat into LEO.

They are moving quickly in terms of how vibrant their space industry is and how committed their government is. They are investing a lot. They are planning a hard impact moon mission next year. Their industrial giants TAI, Tubitak Space, Aselsan etc. are building would class observation, communication etc. sats for government customers across the world. Their private space industry has put about a dozen or so sats in orbit this year (using foreign rockets). Delta V (private company) tested the world's first hybrid engine in space earlier this year. Lastly, Fergani Space (part of Baykar) is going to invest huge amount of capital in space as well to establish a constellation of 100kg sats and developing a space tug.

We haven't seen this kind of vibrant and supportive environment for space in Iran for some time now.

Anyways, I am really hoping that the Islamic world starts to take space seriously and make big moves.

 

[Arash1991]

Is it true that after all these years, Iran has not been able to put more than 52kg in orbit? The industry seems to really be neglected.

Meanwhile, Turkiye is expected to put 100kg at a 300km orbit later this year. Turkiye is a newcomer to SLVs and they are moving quickly. At this point, I had expected Iran to be able to put several tons in LEO.

Iran:​

Since 2007, six of the country's top nuclear scientists and researchers have been killed and one has been wounded under mysterious circumstances. Additionally 1 Top Rocket Scientist (Father of Irans Missile program Shahid Tehrani Moghaddam) killed and 17 other of his companions in 2011.

List of Sabotage Actions:

Iran's Missile Industry:

1. Explosion at Missile Base near Tehran (2011) - Impact: High: Caused significant damage to the missile base and its infrastructure.
2. Explosion at Parchin Military Complex (2014) - Impact: High: Caused damage to a facility suspected of being used for missile development and testing.
3. Cyberattacks on Iran's Missile Program (Various) - Impact: High: Disrupted Iran's missile development and testing programs.
4. Assassination of Hassan Tehrani Moghaddam (2011) - Impact: Very High: Killed a prominent missile scientist and disrupted missile development efforts.
5. Explosion at Khojir Missile Production Complex (2020) - Impcat: High: Caused significant damage to a missile production facility.
6. Explosion at Natanz Nuclear Facility (2020) - Impact: Normal: While primarily a nuclear facility, it also housed missile research, but the missile program impact was not the primary target.
7. Cyberattacks on Iran's Missile Program (2021) - Impact: High: Ongoing cyberattacks disrupted missile development and testing efforts.


Iran's Nuclear Industry:

1. Stuxnet Cyberattack (2009-2010) - Impact: Very High: Significantly disrupted Iran's uranium enrichment program.
2. Explosion at Natanz Facility (2010) - Impact: High: Caused damage and temporarily halted enrichment activities.
3. Explosion in Isfahan Facility (2011) - Impact: Normal: Limited information available on the impact.
4. Cyberattack on Iranian Nuclear Facilities (2012) - Impact: Normal: Specific impact details not widely disclosed.
5. Fire at Natanz Nuclear Facility (2020) - Impact:High: Caused significant damage to the Natanz enrichment facility.
6. Assassination of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh (2020) - Impact: Very High: Eliminated a key nuclear scientist and disrupted research.
7. Cyberattack on Iran's Ports and Infrastructure (2021) Impact: Normal: Disrupted non-nuclear infrastructure.
8. Explosion at Natanz Enrichment Plant (2021) - Impact: High: Caused damage and disrupted enrichment operations.
9. Drone Attack on Karaj Nuclear Facility (2021) - Impact: High: Targeted a nuclear facility outside Natanz.
10. Attack on Iran's Natanz Nuclear Facility (2021) - Impact: High: Caused damage and disrupted enrichment activities.
11. Drone Attack on Iran's Bushehr Nuclear Plant (2021) - Impact: Normal: Limited information available on the impact.

Conflicts Iran defending against Western Plans and hegemony in the Region:

1. Fighting against a Syrian overthrow in favour of a western friendly ally by West
2. Fighting in Iraq US troops (nearly pulled them out with help of resistance)
3. Support in Yemen against the Saudi Led Invasion
4. Kurdish insurgents and Groups in Syria and specially North Iraq
5. Fight Against ISIS and decisive Victory
6. Support of Palestinian Resistance against Israel
7. Dealing with frequent Israeli Airstrikes against Iranian Infrastructure
8. Dealing with US Navy in the Gulf of Oman, Persian Gulf and Hormuz
9. Dealing with Panturkism on the northern borders
10. Supported taliban in the end game of Afghanistan war which lead to the total defeat of US forces in Afghanistan
11. Support of Hezbollah in Lebanon

Turkey​

Sanctions:
Limited number of sanctions against turkey


List of Sabotage Actions:

Turkeys Missile Industry:

1. No Sabotage: technological access to Western technology

Turkeys Nuclear Ambitions:

1. No Sabotage: limited technological access to Western and World technology

Conflicts Turkey defending Interests in the Region:

1. Refugee Problem from Syria
2. Northern Syria border control
3. Kurdish insurgents and Groups in Syria and specially North Iraq
4. Defending Interests in Lybia
5. Greece border disputes

Conclusion:

Iran owns the most advanced missiles due to all these enemy actions in military field and is going to develop high payload Vehicles in the near future. Irans Space program was nearly shut down for some years due to financial issues but for now Iran is going for another attempt. This is the reason why Iran had no progress over a certain period.