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From information provided by Iran and analysis by Uzi Rubin:
Sarir SLV
3 stage Solid propellant SLV with a diameter of 2m
Weight: 160tons
Payload to 1000km orbit: 700kg
Date of first launch: unknown
Sourush-1
First stage propellant: unknown + (4 solid propellant boosters)
weight: 700tons,
Payload to GSO: 1ton
Date of first launch: unknown
Sourush-2
SLV with cryogenic rocket engines
weight: 1300tons
Payload to GEO: 2,5tons
Date of first launch: unknown
The question is what kind of propellant Sourush-1 uses in its first stage---is it solid or liquid propellant.....
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Uzi Rubin, founder and first director of the Israel Missile Defense Organization, analysis of Iran Arash-24 Solid Fuel Apogee Kick Motor with Flexible Nozzle for Satellite Orbital Transfer in Space
They got the technology from a place called "Iranian Brain"...wow, just wow, I wonder where they got the technology from
I don't know what kind of propellant Uzi Rubin assumed for Sourush SLVs but I think his estimate is not accurate, because Iran said that Souroush-2 will use cryogenic engine and will be able to put 2,5tons of payload to GEO----SLVs with this payload weight around 300-500tons---not 1300tons estimated by Uzi Rubin
Same applies to Souroush-1---since it will be able to put 1tons payload into GSO, hardly it will weight 700tons---probably much less
I guess Uzi Rubin assumed in his analysis that Souroush-1 and Souroush-2 will be solid propellant SLVs which is NOT true
If the wrong kind of government wins in the summer or the current garbage admin has it way, that very thing could happen. I just recently learned what kind of a filthy filthy pimp khatami was concerning Iranian territory, so nothing surprises me when it comes to this government of prostitute insects that are rohani and her minions.So no point talking about a SLV that is likely a decade (if not more) away from fruition. Especially if Iran negotiates away SLV (ICBM) development in the future to the West.
@Galactic Penguin SST .
I am well aware that all that is visible to us humans in the universe is only 5% of the total..the other 95% we do not know.... it does not interact with ordinary matter or light ( it is called Dark Matter and Dark Energy) .So this much is known to an average Cosmologist...and because of that I do not dismiss things you say that easily (I run it through my filter). But about your reply I say..WTF.!..can you put it to me in a more simple language.
The most devastating space related disaster of all time
This video shows several Chinese space rocket launches that FAILED and in some cases caused serious damage and casualties. One devastating failure in 1996 wiped out an entire village, however the most recent failure occurred in 2018.
This goes to show how difficult and challenging it truly is to send rockets into space. There is no room for error and all these calamities befell China, a country with massive resources at their disposal and a space program whose budget is $9 BILLION,
This is why when it comes to Iran's space program, although there have been setbacks, they should not be deterred and keep trying until they succeed. At the same time, with that being said, in regards to Iran being able to send a human being into space or being able to establish a satellite network, I will believe it when I see it.
Another video showing the failed Chinese space launch that killed 6 villagers according to Chinese officials. However analysts from outside China have claimed that the number could be as high as 200-500 or more since the entire village was wiped out in the aftermath.
Propellant components splashing out of the tanks soaked the testers standing nearby. Fire instantly devoured them. Poisonous vapors killed them. Of course, the quality of the film frames is not up to today's standards but when viewed in slow motion you can see how the missile and erector burned and how the frantic people trapped on the service platforms jumped straight into the fire and were instantly consumed. The enormous temperature at a significant distance from the epicenter of the fire burned peoples' clothing, and many of those fleeing who got bogged down in molten asphalt burned up completely. |
This again shows the abysmal level of ignorance and complete misunderstanding of historical facts by some Iranian posters (unless it is bad faith), that can't simply correctly grasp the reality of the world we live in, and the complacency for blatant lies of the other ones (corrupter of everything) who know the truth, therefore forfeiting in both cases the future of this nation.
Pakistani readers don't let them fool you, and please take note!
The worst space catastrophe was indeed the Soviet Nedelin Disaster.
The Nedelin Disaster
A rush job ended with nearly 100 lives lost when a fully-fueled rocket ignited on the launchpad during testing.
October 22, 2010
There's some justice in the fact that the worst rocket accident in history, which happened 50 years ago this week, is remembered by the name of the man who caused it.
Marshal Mitrofan Nedelin was an ambitious military leader who rose to command the Soviet Union's Strategic Missile Forces during the Cold War. In the autumn of 1960, his main focus was developing the new R-16 intercontinental ballistic missile, which was meant to be an answer to the American Atlas. According to Soviet rocket designer Boris Chertok in his landmark history Rockets and People, work on the R-16 was proceeding ahead of schedule, with a target date of July 1961 for the first launch, when Nedelin upped the ante: He would launch by November 7, in time for the 43rd anniversary of the Soviet revolution.
Nedelin's desire for glory cost him his life, and the lives of nearly 100 others. Rushing the schedule led exhausted workers to take all kinds of short cuts and risks, including continuing to work on the missile after it was fully fueled on the launch pad at Baikonur, with some 250 people milling around within close range.
On the evening of October 24, a cascading series of errors, including a mistaken switch setting, led to a rocketeer's worst nightmare: the R-16's second stage fired on the pad, still attached to the first stage underneath it, which immediately exploded.
Chertok describes the scene:
Propellant components splashing out of the tanks soaked the testers standing nearby. Fire instantly devoured them. Poisonous vapors killed them. Of course, the quality of the film frames is not up to today's standards but when viewed in slow motion you can see how the missile and erector burned and how the frantic people trapped on the service platforms jumped straight into the fire and were instantly consumed. The enormous temperature at a significant distance from the epicenter of the fire burned peoples' clothing, and many of those fleeing who got bogged down in molten asphalt burned up completely.
There was an investigation, but no witch-hunt or official blame. Soviet authorities decided that being on the scene of the accident was punishment enough for the engineers and technicians who survived. Families of the victims were told to keep quiet, and the first detailed accounts of the accident were not published until the late 1980s.
As for Marshal Nedelin, he was near the base of the missile at the time of the explosion, and perished in the blast. Writes Chertok: "The majority of the dead were unrecognizable. ... Nedelin was identified by the 'Gold Star' medal that had survived."
A new documentary on the Nedelin disaster will air on Russian TV this weekend:
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But, this is nothing compared to the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, that was even worse if one consider that military or civilian casualties covered by state secrecy inflict lesser national humiliation and loss of international prestige, compared to the death of one's first ever astronaut televised live worldwide!
The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster was a fatal disaster in the United States space program that occurred on 1st February 2003, when the Space Shuttle Columbia (OV-102) disintegrated as it reentered the atmosphere, killing all seven crew members. The disaster was the second fatal accident in the Space Shuttle program, after the 1986 breakup of Challenger soon after liftoff.
Ilan Ramon
Ilan Ramon, a colonel in the Israeli Air Force was the first Israeli astronaut, and was killed in the re-entry accident with all the six other crew members.
With Ilan Ramon's death, Israel is to this day, the only nation in the world to have lost its first ever astronaut during a maiden spaceflight.
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▲ 1. The tattered remains of an Israeli Air Force flag which Ramon carried into space, found among the debris in Texas.
The Columbia Disaster Was Worse Than You Thought
1,190,789 views •Apr 27, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXiZ3RHR3bg
Conclusion, if Iran's first astronaut can't make it back alive to Earth, it won't beat the Israeli record!
North Korean manned spacecraft
Obviously as different from the Iranian Kavoshgar-10 capsule as the Paektusan-1 SLV was different from Iran's Safir-1 SLV!
As depicted back in 2017, from a mysterious Japanese account possibly related to Chongryon.
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▲ 2. North Korean manned spacecraft: 朝鲜飞船. May 3, 2017 6:58 AM
Compared to the Russian OGCh 1'700 kg 8F021 orbiting warhead。
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▲ 3. The 1'700 kg 8F021 orbiting warhead had the Russian acronym OGCh。
Compared to the Chinese Shuguang-1 (Dawn One) manned spacecraft (code-named Project 714):
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▲ 4. The Shuguang-1 (Dawn One) manned spacecraft (code-named Project 714) was piloted by two astronauts and had a maximum flight time of eight days. It was planned to launch an unmanned spacecraft in 1973 and a manned spacecraft in 1974. The Shuguang-1 was launched by the Dongfeng-6 Orbiting Missile.
Harsh competition ahead!
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Actually the worst space launch related disaster in human history was probably a failed launch in China in 1996 in which an entire village was pretty much wiped out. This is the worst one I've heard of anyways. China initially said there were no deaths but later after investigations, Chinese officials stated that there were 6 deaths with 50+ injuries.
However according to western estimates, considering the fact that the entire village was completely decimated, 200-500+ could have died. Who knows. Either way it's very sad for those poor villagers but it's good to see China resiliently forging ahead with its space program despite setbacks.
300 casualties in the Soviet Union are more than 100 in China. Stop reposting rubbish.
Pakistani readers can verify the facts in this Wikipedia link, and see by themselves who is the inveterate lier.
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List of spaceflight-related accidents and incidents - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Reposting the same drivel from 24 February 2021 again and again will not change the fact that, by order of gravity, Israel is the record holder:
5.On 15 February 1996, a Long March rocket carrying the Intelsat 708 Satellite veered off course immediately after launch, crashing in the nearby village 22 seconds later, destroying 80 houses. According to official Chinese reports there were 6 fatalities and 57 injuries resulting from the incident, but other accounts estimated 100 fatalities.
4.The Nedelin Disaster was worse with 300 casualties including top rocket scientists, delaying the development of the R-16 ICBM.
3.The Bidganeh arsenal explosion was a large explosion that occurred about 13:30 local time, 12 November 2011 in Iran's Moddares garrison missile base. The facility is also referred to as Shahid Modarres missile base,[1] and the Alghadir missile base.[2] Seventeen members of the Revolutionary Guards were killed in this incident,[3] including Major General Hassan Moqaddam, described as "a key figure in Iran's missile programme".
The consequences have been devastating for Iran with the loss of its Chief designer General Hassan Tehrani Moggadam, delaying severely the development of the Qaem SLV. Indeed, a decade later, as of 2021, this 3.5 meter diameter rocket has still not been flown.
2.The Brazilian 22nd August 2003 Alcântara VLS accident during the Brazilian Space Agency's third attempt to launch the VLS-1 rocket, killing 21 people.
The explosion leveled the rocket's launch pad, reducing a 10-story high structure to a pile of twisted metal. But worse, the death of key scientist simply put an end to the Brazilian space effort.
1.The Space Shuttle Columbia disaster was a fatal disaster in the United States space program that occurred on 1st February 2003, when the Space Shuttle Columbia (OV-102) disintegrated as it reentered the atmosphere, killing all seven crew members. The disaster was the second fatal accident in the Space Shuttle program, after the 1986 breakup of Challenger soon after liftoff.
Ilan Ramon, a colonel in the Israeli Air Force was the first Israeli astronaut, and was killed in the re-entry accident with all the six other crew members.
With Ilan Ramon's death, Israel is to this day, the only nation in the world to have lost its first ever astronaut during a maiden spaceflight.
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▲ 1. With Ilan Ramon's death, Israel is to this day, the only nation in the world to have lost its first ever astronaut during a maiden spaceflight.
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88 houses destroyed, an entire village utterly wiped out. Let's say 3 people in each house, that's 264 already, not even including the rest of the village completely ceasing to exist. The article from the video states 200-500 could have died. The visual evidence is undeniable. Anyways the important part is that China persevered and continued developing their space program regardless of trials and tribulations until today.
官方辟谣“火箭砸死500人” 事故造成6死57伤 |
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2016年02月19日 06:27:57 来源: 京华时报 关于网络上“1996年长三乙火箭首飞失败造成500人死亡”的说法,作为承担我国长征系列运载火箭研制、生产和发射试验任务的单位,中国航天科技集团公司昨日发表声明进行辟谣。 近日,有网友发布微博称,“1996年2月15日,中国长三乙火箭首飞失败,撞山爆炸,至少造成500人死亡,家属区荡然无存。” 中国航天科技集团公司声明表示,1996年2月15日凌晨3时零1分,我国新研制的长征三号乙火箭发射国际708通信卫星,点火起飞后约两秒,火箭飞行姿态出现异常,约22秒后,火箭头部坠地,撞到离发射架不到2公里的山坡上,随即发生剧烈爆炸,星箭俱毁,事故造成6人死亡,57人受伤住院。 |
Regarding the Internet statement that "the failure of the first flight of the CZ-3B rocket in 1996 caused 500 deaths", China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation issued a statement yesterday to refute the rumors as the unit responsible for the development, production, and launch test of my country's Long March series of carrier rockets. Recently, a netizen posted on Weibo stating, “On February 15, 1996, China’s CZ-3B rocket failed its first flight and crashed into a mountain and exploded. At least 500 people were killed and the residential area disappeared.” China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation stated that at 3:01 on February 15, 1996, China’s newly-developed Long March 3B rocket launched the International 708 communications satellite. About two seconds after it ignited and took off, the rocket's flight attitude appeared abnormal. After 22 seconds, the head of the rocket fell to the ground and hit a hillside less than 2 kilometers away from the launcher. There was a violent explosion and the arrows were destroyed. The accident resulted in 6 deaths and 57 injuries and hospitalizations. |
http://web.archive.org/web/20210410202548/http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2016-02/19/c_128732483.htm https://archive.ph/6Bzj3 |
INTELSAT 708 LAUNCH FAILURE |
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LORAL INVESTIGATION PROVIDES PRC WITH SENSITIVE INFORMATION Overview of Events On February 15, 1996, the Intelsat 708 satellite was launched on a Long March 3B rocket from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center in the PRC.1 Even before clearing the launch tower, the rocket tipped over and continued on a flight trajectory roughly parallel to the ground.2 After only 22 seconds of flight, the rocket crashed into a nearby hillside, destroying the rocket and the Intelsat satellite it carried. The crash created an explosion that was roughly equivalent to 20 to 55 tons of TNT. It destroyed a nearby village. According to official PRC reports, six people died in the explosion,3 but other accounts estimate that 100 people died as a result of the crash.4 |
http://web.archive.org/web/20210311074213/https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-CRPT-105hrpt851/html/ch6bod.html https://archive.ph/uJgnD |
The Nedelin Disaster |
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A rush job ended with nearly 100 lives lost when a fully-fueled rocket ignited on the launchpad during testing. October 22, 2010 There's some justice in the fact that the worst rocket accident in history, which happened 50 years ago this week, is remembered by the name of the man who caused it. Marshal Mitrofan Nedelin was an ambitious military leader who rose to command the Soviet Union's Strategic Missile Forces during the Cold War. In the autumn of 1960, his main focus was developing the new R-16 intercontinental ballistic missile, which was meant to be an answer to the American Atlas. According to Soviet rocket designer Boris Chertok in his landmark history Rockets and People, work on the R-16 was proceeding ahead of schedule, with a target date of July 1961 for the first launch, when Nedelin upped the ante: He would launch by November 7, in time for the 43rd anniversary of the Soviet revolution. Nedelin's desire for glory cost him his life, and the lives of nearly 100 others. Rushing the schedule led exhausted workers to take all kinds of short cuts and risks, including continuing to work on the missile after it was fully fueled on the launch pad at Baikonur, with some 250 people milling around within close range. On the evening of October 24, a cascading series of errors, including a mistaken switch setting, led to a rocketeer's worst nightmare: the R-16's second stage fired on the pad, still attached to the first stage underneath it, which immediately exploded. Chertok describes the scene: Propellant components splashing out of the tanks soaked the testers standing nearby. Fire instantly devoured them. Poisonous vapors killed them. Of course, the quality of the film frames is not up to today's standards but when viewed in slow motion you can see how the missile and erector burned and how the frantic people trapped on the service platforms jumped straight into the fire and were instantly consumed. The enormous temperature at a significant distance from the epicenter of the fire burned peoples' clothing, and many of those fleeing who got bogged down in molten asphalt burned up completely. There was an investigation, but no witch-hunt or official blame. Soviet authorities decided that being on the scene of the accident was punishment enough for the engineers and technicians who survived. Families of the victims were told to keep quiet, and the first detailed accounts of the accident were not published until the late 1980s. As for Marshal Nedelin, he was near the base of the missile at the time of the explosion, and perished in the blast. Writes Chertok: "The majority of the dead were unrecognizable. ... Nedelin was identified by the 'Gold Star' medal that had survived." A new documentary on the Nedelin disaster will air on Russian TV this weekend: https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/the-nedelin-disaster-146124579/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqT90VmYgEU |
https://www.airspacemag.com/daily-planet/the-nedelin-disaster-146124579/ |