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[sahureka2]

photo published by a Russian site "forums.airbase.ru" user hudfen

the ship seems bent, if the damage is so serious, the ship can be considered dead.
From the "Damavand" they can reuse everything that is above the water to re-install it on a new hull

have already landed the canister of the anti-ship missiles, probably using the crane over there.

 

[AmirPatriot]

photo published by a Russian site "forums.airbase.ru" user hudfen

the ship seems bent, if the damage is so serious, the ship can be considered dead.
From the "Damavand" they can reuse everything that is above the water to re-install it on a new hull

have already landed the canister of the anti-ship missiles, probably using the crane over there.

Just tragic

@Penguin is there any hope for Damavand?

 

[sahureka2]

yes, they are removing important systems, which can be installed again on the Damavand, if it is repairable, or on another frigate currently under construction.

maybe the next days other systems will be removed from the ship : Fajr-27 , Fath-40mm , 2 canister for anti air missiles , erc.

 

[Cthulhu]

Just tragic

@Penguin is there any hope for Damavand?

She broke into two.

 

[Hack-Hook]

She broke into two.

When and why ?

 

[Cthulhu]

When and why ?

متاسفانه پس از نزدیک به دو هفته از برخورد دماوند به موج شکنهای بندرانزلی و گیر افتادن در لابلای صخره ها، در اثر شرایط طوفانی دریا و موجهای بزرگ این ناو به دفعات زیاد با صخره های موج شکن برخورد کرده و از قسمت پد بالگرد شکست.

دو تکه شکسته شده دماوند کماکان در دریا و کنار موج شکن شناور هستند.

متخصصین و متولیان امر برای بیرون کشیدن و انتقال دو تکیه دماوند به حوض تعمیرات منتظر فروکش کردن موجها و آرام شدن وضعیت دریا هستند.

منبع:میلیتاری

 

[TheImmortal]

Sheer and utter incompetence by the Iranian Navy.

And people here wonder why they were building a Persian gulf TRAINING warship.

This is a kabob military......a joke.

 

[Stryker1982]

Sheer and utter incompetence by the Iranian Navy.

And people here wonder why they were building a Persian gulf TRAINING warship.

This is a kabob military......a joke.

Essentially at this point after 8 years from the first frigate, Iran only has now 1 in commission. Just goes to show just how poor and depleted the Iranian army is. It's really sad. The only traitors are those in positions of power that don't do anything about this & think this is okay. While people and organizations steal money, only scraps are given to the army and this is the result. 1 frigate. Meanwhile other countries would build several ships with several times the tonnage in less time like the British type 45.

 

[Hack-Hook]

I wonder where the rest of the personnel where Wikipedia say the ship was entering Anzali Port at the time of the incident and then it say at the time only 18 person were on-board ?! It supposed to have more than 100 personnel .

also why they wanted to enter port at the time , the ship was far safer in middle of the sea

Essentially at this point after 8 years from the first frigate, Iran only has now 1 in commission. Just goes to show just how poor and depleted the Iranian army is. It's really sad. The only traitors are those in positions of power that don't do anything about this & think this is okay. While people and organizations steal money, only scraps are given to the army and this is the result. 1 frigate. Meanwhile other countries would build several ships with several times the tonnage in less time like the British type 45.

as I previously said Iran Navy had the worst performance of all in Iran-Iraq war , and many things that they contribute to them are actually done by Air-force or ground force.

yes, they are removing important systems, which can be installed again on the Damavand, if it is repairable, or on another frigate currently under construction.

maybe the next days other systems will be removed from the ship : Fajr-27 , Fath-40mm , 2 canister for anti air missiles , erc.

I say it was better just throw that Fath-40mm into the sea instead of salvaging it and wasting precious space on another ship with it

 

[sahureka2]

I say it was better just throw that Fath-40mm into the sea instead of salvaging it and wasting precious space on another ship with it

yes, if they have a CIWS system available, otherwise it is necessary to make virtue of necessity, so it is better the Fath-40mm than nothing.

Fath-40 copy of Breda Type 564
by: NavWeaps
A single 40 mm/L70 using a 144 round Model 1971 automatic magazine. Crew is normally two on mount with one on standby, but some versions can be operated by a single operator.

Weight 7,275 lbs. (3,300 kg) without ammunition plus 220 lbs. (100 kg) for a battery
Elevation -10 / +90 degrees
Elevation Rate 45 degrees per second
Train 360 degrees
Train Rate 80 degrees per second
Rate of Fire 240 rpm

 

[Hack-Hook]

yes, if they have a CIWS system available, otherwise it is necessary to make virtue of necessity, so it is better the Fath-40mm than nothing.

Fath-40 copy of Breda Type 564
by: NavWeaps
A single 40 mm/L70 using a 144 round Model 1971 automatic magazine. Crew is normally two on mount with one on standby, but some versions can be operated by a single operator.

Weight 7,275 lbs. (3,300 kg) without ammunition plus 220 lbs. (100 kg) for a battery
Elevation -10 / +90 degrees
Elevation Rate 45 degrees per second
Train 360 degrees
Train Rate 80 degrees per second
Rate of Fire 240 rpm

A simple question .
When was the last time somebody actually hit anything with that 40 mm/L70 gun
they previously shown promising systems that with a little refinement can provide us system like Phalanx

 

[sahureka2]

[QUOTE = "Hack-Hook, post: 10190723, member: 136435"]
A simple question .
When was the last time somebody actually hit anything with that 40 mm/L70 gun
they previously shown promising systems that with a little refinement can provide us system like Phalanx
[/ QUOTE]
I think you mean air targets and to destroy anti-ship missiles!
difficult to have information, both for use in training and in real combat conditions.
However, one can answer with another question: how many other weapons have hit something in real conflict conditions lately?

Yes, it would be appropriate to have a system like Phalanx, but also AK-630 Russian, or Chinese and North Korean versions, or the Chinese Type 730 CIWS and finally the Russian Pantsir-M

and like having a VLS system, but at the moment it is not possible, therefore either using what is built in Iran, or creating unarmed ships.
If then the Iranians will have the opportunity to produce something similar to the above, or the conditions allow you to buy them, it should not be difficult to implement them as the frigates already built

 

[sahureka2]

photo of the funeral of a crew member of the Damavand frigate

http://khabarone.ir/news/13929666/تشییع-پیکر-شهید-سانحه-ناو-دماوند-در-انزلی-عکس

 

[Hack-Hook]

[QUOTE = "Hack-Hook, post: 10190723, member: 136435"]
A simple question .
When was the last time somebody actually hit anything with that 40 mm/L70 gun
they previously shown promising systems that with a little refinement can provide us system like Phalanx
[/ QUOTE]
I think you mean air targets and to destroy anti-ship missiles!
difficult to have information, both for use in training and in real combat conditions.
However, one can answer with another question: how many other weapons have hit something in real conflict conditions lately?

Yes, it would be appropriate to have a system like Phalanx, but also AK-630 Russian, or Chinese and North Korean versions, or the Chinese Type 730 CIWS and finally the Russian Pantsir-M

and like having a VLS system, but at the moment it is not possible, therefore either using what is built in Iran, or creating unarmed ships.
If then the Iranians will have the opportunity to produce something similar to the above, or the conditions allow you to buy them, it should not be difficult to implement them as the frigates already built

well let just say last year phalanx hit something around Yemen and they have already shown all component of a system like phalanx but they decided not to assemble them together and go with this ww2 era system which was designed to engage propeller airplane .and fishing boats.

 

[sahureka2]

well let just say last year phalanx hit something around Yemen and they have already shown all component of a system like phalanx but they decided not to assemble them together and go with this ww2 era system which was designed to engage propeller airplane .and fishing boats.

you're sure it was the Phalanx ?

true the bofors was designed before the 2nd world war, but it has been continuously improved and the Iranian one is a copy of the greatly updated version made by the Italian Breda in 40/70, certainly does not reach the capabilities of Breda Dardo, but still remains superior to majority of 40 / 56-40 / 60 as well as 40/70 currently in use on the units of many naval forces, both for the possibility of being used by one man, and for the loading system that allows him to get ready to I use 144 bullets, all in an over-bridge position.

in any case, it is still the main problem that has already been listed, at the moment a national Iranian CIWS in mass production is not present, so you have to use what you have available and already tested, today is Fateh-40, for the future
maybe this

or a naval version of this, if the agreements are successful with South Africa

even better both systems installed