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[SubWater]

Google Earth captures New Iranian Sub as it's being deployed in March!

~150 Ft long & ~ 15 Ft wide!

I hope all Gadir Sub facilities are converted to produce this new Sub and Iran produces it in large numbers!

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The best guess is that, this is new fateh submarine which they solved the problem of old fateh submarine and this would be final product.
we build at least four ghadir submarine per year in peak of ghadir production and we can conclude we have ability to produce at least two of this submarines per year and that is good rate for country like Iran.

 

[eagle2007]

ALCON,

The submarine Vevak found definitely could be a Fateh-class submarine.

While no "official" dimensions have published (though it's rough displacement was), various open source intel folks like Covert Shores (which is IMHO the best open-source on underwater warfare out there) estimate it to be ~48 meters in length, which would actually be a little bigger than the 150 feet you measured.

However, given open-source folks likely only had in the water/waterline images to go by to estimate the Fateh's length, it's not that surprising that they'd be off by a few meters.

Also at this location and time frame in GE, you can see two Sina-class missile boat hulls (which makes at least 3 new hulls counting the one at Bandar Abbas), the mysterious pressure hull/chamber object (which was first sighted there several years ago & which could be the pressure hull for another Fateh-class given its dimensions), a fast-attack boat (out of water), and a Ghadir-class submarine. All within spitting distance of each other.

AmirPatriot,

The location of Vevak's image is the port/shipyards near Bostanu (as you go west of Bandar Abbas along the coast, it is the 2nd port you run into). This is, among other things, the construction site of Iran's aircraft carrier mock-up/barge, as well as a major maintenance location for oil rigs.

 

[Blue In Green]

ALCON,

The submarine Vevak found definitely could be a Fateh-class submarine.

While no "official" dimensions have published (though it's rough displacement was), various open source intel folks like Covert Shores (which is IMHO the best open-source on underwater warfare out there) estimate it to be ~48 meters in length, which would actually be a little bigger than the 150 feet you measured.

However, given open-source folks likely only had in the water/waterline images to go by to estimate the Fateh's length, it's not that surprising that they'd be off by a few meters.

Also at this location and time frame in GE, you can see two Sina-class missile boat hulls (which makes at least 3 new hulls counting the one at Bandar Abbas), the mysterious pressure hull/chamber object (which was first sighted there several years ago & which could be the pressure hull for another Fateh-class given its dimensions), a fast-attack boat (out of water), and a Ghadir-class submarine. All within spitting distance of each other.

AmirPatriot,

The location of Vevak's image is the port/shipyards near Bostanu (as you go west of Bandar Abbas along the coast, it is the 2nd port you run into). This is, among other things, the construction site of Iran's aircraft carrier mock-up/barge, as well as a major maintenance location for oil rigs.

In theory is that size of submarine able to fire sea lunched cruise missiles?

 

[Arminkh]

In theory is that size of submarine able to fire sea lunched cruise missiles?

Sure, They use the torpedo tubes for that. you don't necessarily need to have vertical launch tubes.

 

[eagle2007]

BlueInGreen2,

Strictly speaking, as long as it has a torpedo tube big enough for the launch capsule for such a missile (and preferably the fire control kit for the job), the answer would be yes.

VLS-tech is finding its way into smaller and smaller submarine concepts but usually does so at great expense to overall combat capability (often results to losing a few torpedo tubes in exchange at least). Developing/purchasing torpedo-tube launch canister tech is a much smarter option as Arminkh suggested.

For example, the Israelis had their Gal-class submarines (British-built but based on the German Type-206) fitted with Sub-Harpoon AshMs back in the 1980s. The Gal-class are of very similar dimensions to the Fateh-class (though a very different configuration) as well. Heck, they even fitted their Gal-class subs with a 6-cell Blowpipe SAM launcher which retracted into the conning tower IIRC) back when they were first built in the 1970s. With the right engineering and a sound starting design, it's amazing how much kit you can squeeze into a submarine these days.

 

[VEVAK]

The best guess is that, this is new fateh submarine which they solved the problem of old fateh submarine and this would be final product.
we build at least four ghadir submarine per year in peak of ghadir production and we can conclude we have ability to produce at least two of this submarines per year and that is good rate for country like Iran.

2 is more than enough! BUT as I have mentioned previously, if they were forced to used more expensive, heavier & stronger materials due it's size then why stop at 150ft x 15ft just go the extra mile and make it a force multiplier at 200ft by 20ft (much like the Dolphin Class) And even if Iran manages to produces 1 per that is more than plenty and in the next 2-3 Decades Iran would have one of the top 5 not just largest submarine fleet but also strongest

 

[Sina-1]

...they were forced to used more expensive, heavier & stronger materials due it's size

I have missed reports considering material discussions regarding fateh class submarines. Could you please share a link where this issue has been reported?

 

[VEVAK]

And exactly where is that? Name of facility/city or coordinates please.

Did you find it?? 1st Gadir Sub, Nahang, 1st Fatteh class were all created at that facility! It's the one in the right corner and you have to get the date right too if they updated the images

Did yo

I have missed reports considering material discussions regarding fateh class submarines. Could you please share a link where this issue has been reported?

Iran's Defense minister said it on Iranian TV a year ago I believe the video is on Youtube! The only problem with the 1st Fatteh Class was the materials used in it's construction....

 

[SubWater]

2 is more than enough! BUT as I have mentioned previously, if they were forced to used more expensive, heavier & stronger materials due it's size then why stop at 150ft x 15ft just go the extra mile and make it a force multiplier at 200ft by 20ft (much like the Dolphin Class) And even if Iran manages to produces 1 per that is more than plenty and in the next 2-3 Decades Iran would have one of the top 5 not just largest submarine fleet but also strongest

I am agree with you but as you know that mean besat class submarine 200 ft mean more than 60 m and around 1200 tonnes displacement.
at first we should determine what is their missions and where to operate base on what I can guess Fateh class submarines with around 600 tonnes displacement are for Makran sea, so b/c of that I think we don't need more than 8 of them and we have ability to build one Fateh per year in ghadir production lines easily.

besat class submarine with around 1200 tonnes displacement is big Question mark for me as we can guess we have to option here:
first expanding Nahang and Fateh class submarines which is indigenous path
or
second using North Korea experience in Sinpo class submarine
I personally prefer sinpo but it seems that besat would be as you said result of improving and expanding Fateh class submarine to reach 1200 tonnes.

The only problem with the 1st Fatteh Class was the materials used in it's construction....

corruption .....

 

[yavar]

ازمایش موشک کروز ضد کشتی از زیردریایی کلاس غدیر
گزارش یک نهاد آمریکایی: ایران زیردریایی با موشک کروز ضد کشتی برای تنگه هرمز می سازد
آژانس اطلاعات دریایی آمریکا نهاد زیر نظر وزارت دفاع آمریکا در گزارش جدیدی می گوید ایران طرح های بلند پروازانه ای برای تقویت زیر دریایی های خود بعد از رفع تحریم های نظامی در سال ۲۰۲۰ دارد. از جمله ساخت زیردریایی بعثت که توانایی حمل موشک های کروز ضد کشتی برای مقابله با کشتی های آمریکایی در تنگه هرمز را دارد. تایمز اسرائیل در گزارشی به نقل از آژانس اطلاعات دریایی آمریکا نوشت: از سال ۲۰۲۰ فشارها و بخشی از تحریم های نظامی علیه جمهوری اسلامی ایران برداشته می شود و این به تهران امکان می دهد که توان نظامی خود را تقویت کند. یکی از بخش های بلندپروازانه ایران، تقویت نیروی زیردریایی های ایران است.
پیش از این حسن روحانی رئیس جمهوری ایران از ناوشکن جماران و زیردریایی طارق بازدید کرده بود. وی به تازگی نیز دستوری برای ساخت پیشران هسته‌ای در نیروی دریایی صادر کرد که با بازتاب هایی در غرب روبرو شده بود. گزارش آژانس اطلاعات دریایی آمریکا در ۴۴ صفحه تنظیم شده و بتازگی منتشر شده است.
http://www.tabnak.ir/fa/news/673290/طرح-های-بلندپروازانه-ایران-برای-ساخت-زیردریایی-های-پیشرفته

US officials say Iran has test fired Underwater launched cruise missile launch from Ghadir class submarine ASCM

Iran attempted to launch a cruise missile from a submarine in the Strait of Hormuz on Tuesday but the test failed, two U.S. officials told Fox News.
An Iranian Yono-class “midget” submarine conducted the missile launch. North Korea and Iran are the only two countries in the world that operate this type of submarine.
In February, Iran claimed to have successfully tested a submarine-launched missile. It was not immediately clear if Tuesday’s test was the first time Iran had attempted to launch a missile underwater from a submarine.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...e-launch-from-submarine-us-officials-say.html

 

[yavar]

Iran IRIN Navy parade in the Caspian Sea Jan 2017 رژه نیروی دریایی ارتش در دریای خزر ۲۹/۱/۱۳۹۶

 

[yavar]

Iran Admiral Sayari: continuity of presence in the Pacific oceans
امیر دریادار حبیب‌الله سیاری: تداوم حضور در اقیانوس‌ آرام

 

[sahureka2]

Iran Admiral Sayari: continuity of presence in the Pacific oceans
امیر دریادار حبیب‌الله سیاری: تداوم حضور در اقیانوس‌ آرام

Admiral Sayari maybe he's aboard the Sahand frigate - video 0:45 -0:55

Installed Torpedo tubes 324mm i.imgur.com/R7jX2r5.jpg?1

 

[sahureka2]

Question:
It is possible that after the Frigate Jamaran, Damavand, Sahand and Shiraz, there is a very advanced construction of a 5th frigate at the shipyard north of Bandar Abbas where they are also constructed as submarines
On a Russian site, a user has posted these images
The first satellite of 29 December 2016

The second of the Persian calendar 1395
In the red circle it seems to see the bow of the ship

www.irna.ir/Bushehr/fa/Photo/3422314/

Therefore it can be the 5th frigate under construction in Iran ??
or you have different news
thank you

 

[Penguin]

Most probably a telescopic system used with the gun beside. Gunner mans the gun, a gunnery NCO uses it to visually spot target, direct fire & confirms hit or delivers correction. Much like a sniper & his spotter. It can also be used to deliver visual information to weapons officer & commander of the ship.

My thoughts exactly.