Iranian Chill Thread

[Hack-Hook]

خوب مهم هم نبوده و نخواهد بود که شما خبر نداشتین، همینقدر که عمو اوباما بدونه کفایت میکنه

خوب خوبه از این به بعد هر کی گفت ایران توی سه سال گذشته تحت تحریم بانکی بوده بگم نه نبوده و به عنوان رفرنس ارجاعش بدم به شما، اینجوری خوبه دیگه
؟

 

[mohsen]

The saeghe is not a new fighter by standard terms... It is a heavy upgrade of F-5s... It has a new radar, a new engine, new avionics, new weapons, and modified fuselage...

It's supposed to have all those new things in the future, when they finally woke up.
for now this is Saeqe2 (2015) with 60 years old monitors! heavy upgrade of propaganda.

خوب خوبه از این به بعد هر کی گفت ایران توی سه سال گذشته تحت تحریم بانکی بوده بگم نه نبوده و به عنوان رفرنس ارجاعش بدم به شما، اینجوری خوبه دیگه
؟

عامو تو انگار حالت خوش نیست، من کی گفتم ایران تحریم بانکی نبوده؟
به جاش هر کس گفت ایران ازروز اجرای برجام، تحریم بانکی نیست میتونی بفرستیش پیش من

 

[Chevil]

همانطور که پیشبینی میشد!!!


حسن روحانی:
وی افزود: البته معنای این حرف این نیست که تبادلات ارزی ما کاهش نیافته بیمه ما فعال نشده و کشتی‌های ما بیمه نشده‌اند. بلکه ممکن است یک شرکت بیمه‌گر که آمریکایی‌ها در آن سهم دارند مقداری تعلل کند یا سوئیفت فلان بانک درست نشده باشد که البته این شرایط در مسئله هسته‌ای نبوده است بلکه تحریم دیگری بوده که مردم می‌خواهند تمام این تحریم‌ها برداشته شود و ما می‌توانیم به هیأت مذاکره‌کننده اجازه دهیم در رابطه با بقیه تحریم‌ها نیز مذاکره کند که به نتیجه‌ای مانند برجام برسیم.منبع


By by our only defensive tools ( balstic missiles ) ... And hello Lybia

 

[mohsen]

همانطور که پیشبینی میشد!!!


حسن روحانی:
وی افزود: البته معنای این حرف این نیست که تبادلات ارزی ما کاهش نیافته بیمه ما فعال نشده و کشتی‌های ما بیمه نشده‌اند. بلکه ممکن است یک شرکت بیمه‌گر که آمریکایی‌ها در آن سهم دارند مقداری تعلل کند یا سوئیفت فلان بانک درست نشده باشد که البته این شرایط در مسئله هسته‌ای نبوده است بلکه تحریم دیگری بوده که مردم می‌خواهند تمام این تحریم‌ها برداشته شود و ما می‌توانیم به هیأت مذاکره‌کننده اجازه دهیم در رابطه با بقیه تحریم‌ها نیز مذاکره کند که به نتیجه‌ای مانند برجام برسیم.منبع


By by our only defensive tools ( balstic missiles ) ... And hello Lybia

مردم می خواهند تمام این تحریم ها برداشته شود یا یه سری دروغگو داشتن میگفتن همه تحریمها برداشته شده؟

 

[Chevil]

مردم می خواهند تمام این تحریم ها برداشته شود یا یه سری دروغگو داشتن میگفتن همه تحریمها برداشته شده؟

نه ، باز می خوان به این بهانه امتیازهای بیشتری به
آمریکا بدهند و عملا همین آخرین برگ های دفاعی ما رو بسوزونند ....

اونروز که جنگنده های اعراب روی تهران دیوار صوتی رو بشکنند هم باز می گن همه ش تقصیر اونطرفی ها بود و آمریکا ما رو مثل سوگولی چهارده سالش دوست داره ...

ولی .قتی موشک ها و بمب ها سرشون خراب بشه ، قیافه شون دیدنی می شه

اونروز من از غصه دق می کنم چون اچاعمال فعلی این عزیزان باعث اون شرایط شدهو نتونستیم جلوی پریدنشون توی چاه رو بگیرم

 

[rahi2357]

Delam barash misuzeh, bichare. Hamine keh tu keshvaremun hame trilliarderha bah yek Samand hame ja Miran. Bayad tu chesh nabashi.

Belakhare bigonaham naboude vali soal injast ke pool ro mitoone pas bede ya na ? agar mitouneste pas bede , yani hazere joon be esrayil bede vali poolo pas nade ? va agar nemitoune pas bede ( be dalile moshkelaate baghi mounde az tahrimhay e banki va etc ..) ounmoghe mojazatesh edaam nemishe . albate hanouz forsat e tajdide nazar daare va shayad khataro hes koneo poul ro bede ..
Shayad ham poul alan daste hamoun gorouhi hast ke zanjani migoft man vitrine in grouh boudam va alan ja tare o bache nist ...

 

[mohsen]

حقوق بابک زنجانی سال 68 روزی 17 ملیون تومن، حداقل حقوق یه کارگر همون سال ماهی 2500 تومن
حداقل حقوق کارگر امروز حدودا ماهی 713000 تومن یعنی 285 برابر
حالا 285 رو ضربدر 17 ملیون کنید تا بفهمید به پول امروز چند میارد حقوق روزانه این آدم بوده
خیلیهای دیگه رو هم از بانک مرکزی باید همراه این آدم اعدام کنن

 

[haman10]

Rafsanjani edaam bayad gardad

Mehdi joon edaam bayad gardad :/

 

[Chevil]

Rafsanjani edaam bayad gardad

Mehdi joon edaam bayad gardad :/

Tehranis are in love with them

 

[Madali]

حقوق بابک زنجانی سال 68 روزی 17 ملیون تومن، حداقل حقوق یه کارگر همون سال ماهی 2500 تومن
حداقل حقوق کارگر امروز حدودا ماهی 713000 تومن یعنی 285 برابر
حالا 285 رو ضربدر 17 ملیون کنید تا بفهمید به پول امروز چند میارد حقوق روزانه این آدم بوده
خیلیهای دیگه رو هم از بانک مرکزی باید همراه این آدم اعدام کنن

What's wrong with successful businessmen getting very high income?

I read a book on business, and research had showed that one of the reason that CEO's get very high salaries is not to motivate the President of the company, but to motivate the Vice-President.

Unfortunately, IRI has many elements of communism in our society. We don't need to be a capitalist country, but we need to have certain capitalist elements if we want to progress materialistically. Someone like Babak Zanjani created many jobs.

I remember a while back I was watching a debate on TV and there was an economic ministry or something. Anyway, one caller called in and asked him what kind of car he had. And he was all "I just have a local Iranian car, nothing more". Why should I listen to someone on economy who is proud of his low status? I rather listen to someone talk economy who can tell me he has a Maserati, a private jet, and a 1,000 penthouse. Obviously, he knows his shit, he knows how to make money, he knows how the economy works, so I will listen to him.

But the mentality is that if he is rich, than how can he understand what the average person wants? Which is moronic reasoning. A cancer patient doesn't ask for a doctor who has cancer, does he? You don't want to be trained in French by a person who can barely speak French either? When it comes to economy, it should be the same. We should listen to those who are richer than us.

As long as the rich are not shown as role models, we can't every expect to be wealthy. I'm fine with that, as long as the society accepts it and does not whine every day.

This should be shown in Seda Sima every day,

 

[rahi2357]

Agahi foroushe majmoue BEEEEEP sher

LOL ....................

What's wrong with successful businessmen getting very high income?

It depends where that high income comes from . That's what makes it wrong sometimes .

guy to become millionaire and avoid sanctions. Learn from his business model.

Hell I like your avatar . Doner kebab . We call it " Kebab Turki " in Iran .

 

[-SINAN-]

You may be right and th %15 is wrong but it is funny to say you enter F-5s from one door and you have Saeghe in the other end! What about the old everything (fuselage, wires, avionics, etc,,,) then are not fly-worthy anymore and obviously can not be installed on other airplane because they are old and out of use...

The saeghe is not a new fighter by standard terms... It is a heavy upgrade of F-5s... It has a new radar, a new engine, new avionics, new weapons, and modified fuselage...

These Seaghes, Azarakhshs, Shafagh, at are all technology demonstrators to pullish Iranian aviation engineers' capabilities... No, commander in air force is dumb to take these as the back bone of their air force and sleep well at night... These are simply practice... an exercise to gain know-how... and it certainly helped a lot...

So, it looks like you are capable of producing every sub-component of an Aircraft. Why upgrade 60 years of old aircrafts but not producing an indegenous one ?

 

[haman10]

@rahi2357 Your avatars freaks the living daylights out of me bro

 

[Daneshmand]

What's wrong with successful businessmen getting very high income?

I read a book on business, and research had showed that one of the reason that CEO's get very high salaries is not to motivate the President of the company, but to motivate the Vice-President.

Unfortunately, IRI has many elements of communism in our society. We don't need to be a capitalist country, but we need to have certain capitalist elements if we want to progress materialistically. Someone like Babak Zanjani created many jobs.

I remember a while back I was watching a debate on TV and there was an economic ministry or something. Anyway, one caller called in and asked him what kind of car he had. And he was all "I just have a local Iranian car, nothing more". Why should I listen to someone on economy who is proud of his low status? I rather listen to someone talk economy who can tell me he has a Maserati, a private jet, and a 1,000 penthouse. Obviously, he knows his shit, he knows how to make money, he knows how the economy works, so I will listen to him.

But the mentality is that if he is rich, than how can he understand what the average person wants? Which is moronic reasoning. A cancer patient doesn't ask for a doctor who has cancer, does he? You don't want to be trained in French by a person who can barely speak French either? When it comes to economy, it should be the same. We should listen to those who are richer than us.

As long as the rich are not shown as role models, we can't every expect to be wealthy. I'm fine with that, as long as the society accepts it and does not whine every day.

This should be shown in Seda Sima every day,

Nothing is wrong with getting rich. As long as the riches are earned.

Here we are not talking about riches that were earned. But rather were obtained through economic rent, which means riches that were not earned, but were obtained because someone had access to something to detriment of others because he was unfairly favored.

Personally I am against capital punishment for financial crimes since these crimes happen because of structural weaknesses in the economic system of a country whose fault lies with the governing structure of the country and not with those who took unfair advantage of it. But this does not make these crimes any less criminal in nature.

And you obviously are not interested to learn. The ideas that you bring in, are highly Western, without you understanding what they are.

Sales and its methods are very important in Western economies because they have the capability to EFFICIENTLY produce in EXCESS almost every product you name. Therefore the need arises for 'sales'. This is opposite to what happens in backward economies, in which the inefficiency and inabilities in production hinder meeting the demand. The productivity is so low in such economies, that the demand is always higher than production, causing inflation and misery in a distributive economy.

In such a backward economy, it is the exclusive and criminal access to information and privileged rights which give a few opportunity to become rich at the cost of public. Such riches have not been earned because production was increased or because a more efficient method of production was invented or a new innovation brought a new product to the market place. These riches were gotten because someone knew someone and they hatched a plot to get rich by limiting the market to themselves.

For instance the video clip you have brought in, refers to an idea which was invented by a US Air Force fighter pilot, the legendary John Boyd: OODA loop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This dude was a proponent of innovation in production and creativity. The application of his ideas to sales did not start with sales. His ideas were first applied in industry and then to sales. There can be no sales, when there is no product to sell (unless you want to just import and use sale techniques only for imported products, which is laughable to say the least).

Take the instance of Japanese company Toyota which has been applying similar ideas in its production lines even long before Boyd, verbalized and theorized his system. Boyd was in love with how Japanese did business and advocated for learning from Japanese (though he believed Japanese actually learnt the idea from American supermarkets as per a legend in which a Japanese manufacture executive visits one in US).

This is the video you people have to watch (not the video you brought in):

A major problem with people in backward countries is, they do not want to learn or even if they by accident learn something, it is the wrong thing (learning to pitch a sale when there is nothing to sell for instance since there is no innovation or productivity).

In my previous post on this thread, I had linked to an article published yesterday on page one,of a Canadian newspaper. In that article you can see how a Western woman finds her love and because of that love, she helps to perfect a product further.

Such people do not exist in backward economies. The real problem in a country like Iran is not because people are not being allowed to get rich on economic rent (they already do, despite all the executions and they will continue to despite continuing to execute them). The real problem is, in Iran people like that woman do not exist. People who are fueled by their extreme love for something. So much love that they go on understanding and perfecting the world around themselves, through discoveries, innovations and ONLY THEN selling them in a FAIR market place.

 

[rahi2357]

Your avatars freaks the living daylights out of me bro

Thanks kako . But this one is a psychedelic one ( beware of this shit )