well since you said your qajar i thought you know the meaning of gholi but..
that link is totally wrong and i dont need to ask some one else to teach my mother language . just 5 min listen to me i ill explain to you
well thought i have told you we turkmens don't have ع so we change it to closest voice we could pronounce like a-o-u-gh if it's impossible to change the ع we will remove it اق قالا so we say irajgholi but you must say iraj ali (قلی همون علی هسته )
Dude, all Qajars are not from Gorgan
For example, my branch was living in Gharabagh
So, I am not fully familiar with you guys
Anyway, I still think that you are wrong. For example, what Sobhan-Gholi means? Sobhan is the name of god. If Gholi means servant, we can say that Sobhan-Gholi means the servant of God, but if it means Ali, as you said, it would meant Ali the God, which obviously cannot be true. BTW, @
Irajgholi also agreed that Gholi means Servant. But, I am not sure, maybe you are right. @
Irajgholi , does Gholi means Ali or Servant?
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ghara ghan , I think I am right, but I would ask it from someone to make sure and let you know about it
valla ma dar morde in chiz ha baham sobat nemikonim vali turkmen ha az har rangi hastan mohem nist blonde ya cheshm ha nesbatan keshide dera ya mamuli haste hame turkmen hastan in dadashame in ax roo movaghati mizaram
Aks ra paak kon
In doust e ma ham, familish gharanjik boud. oun ham mesle dadash e shoma sefid boud, vali cheshm haash ye kam keshideh tar boud
man mikhaastam bedounam ke tou yek shaakheh az shoma, masalan gharanjik ha be tor e mesaal, ekhtelaaf e chehre che ghadr hast? chon beyn e ma, ekhtelaaf e chehreh kheyli kam nist
vali man daashtam ba khodam fekr mikardam ke aayaa in be dalil e in hast ke Qajar ha ba baghiyeh ziyaad mixed shodand, ya inke baraaye baghiye ye ghabileh haye turk ham hamin tor ekhtelaaf chehreh beyneshoun hast.
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ghara ghan BTW, I remembered that "Gholi Beik" was also used before as a rank or nickname which it meant the Great servant of king.
It cannot be meant as the Great Ali, am I right?