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Either this plan goes in effect, we sit and stagnate, or capitulate to western demands and beg them to do the same that China would anyways.

Those demands include the dismantling of Iran into several "ethno"-states. Not the same as what China would offer.



That viewpoint has nothing to do with what I just said. Which is the actions that the Iranian government can take to improve its economy.

Last I checked mandatory hijab, cameras tracking who wears hijab, social media censorship, lack of economic reforms, lack of ease of doing business, strengthening contractual law, etc are all the decisions of an “independent” Iranian government, not any foreign powers.

Well, when you post the following:

It’s either we need to be North Korea or we need to be South Korea in peoples minds on here. Two extremists positions.

Protests went from once a decade to once every other year now. Last time some government officials broke rank with the main government position. Next time it will be worse. And the time after that. And after that.

This current path is a path to destruction, not salvation.

Iran has put all its eggs in the China superpower basket. That China will lead the new world order and that the dollar will become a shell of its former self.

That is one risky bet to make.

That wouldn't be entirely confined to domestic reforms, would it? From what I understand, the above quote includes a suggestion to improve ties with the west. Something you agreed won't be feasible unless Iran gave up her sovereignty and more.

Iran has been under “enhanced” energy and trade sanctions since 2008. Yet how come the currency finally devalued from 1100 toman in 2010 to 3000-4000 in 2015-2016 to nearly 50,000 in 2022/2023? The sanctions have virtually stayed the same. Thus sanctions cannot be the answer for all of Iran’s problems. Iranian officials themselves have admitted as much: problems with the economy and socioeconomic issues go far beyond just sanctions.

I concur with the notion that sanctions aren't the main reason for Iran's economic challenges, and that the actual issues ought to be sought at the domestic level. Although to me they do not reside in the dress code or the like, but in the dollarization of the Iranian economy. If the latter is lifted and inflation brought under control, people especially the working and middle class will become far less receptive to US-sponsored propaganda against sharia law.



What's with you guys and always drawing in absolutes. He is describing what could've have been. We already know what situation the country is in right now, and their is no turning back. He is 100% accurate in describing what Western designs for Iran are, but he is also correct, prior to the Islamic Revolution, we could have gone the Japan route instead of the revolutionary route and undoubtedly would have had a much more enriched country, likely producing several million barrels of oil per day, and having 100s of billions of dollars more in the country to create jobs, and increase overall economy, increase in exports and wealth generation.

And a much higher suicide rate (see Japan, Korea), and subservience to globalist elites whose ultimate goal is the foundation of a universal republic in which existing nations will be dissolved and thus, will cease to exist, a social order in which the family will gradually be abolished (since you mention the concern of Iranians for their children's well being) etc.

Assuming things would've been all rosy if the Revolution didn't occur (which again I'm highly doubtful of), what's the point of speculating about the outcome if the possibility of a return to pre-revolutionary conditions does not exist today?

Is it to reach the conclusion that it's understandable for the average Iranian to prioritize their material situation over anti-imperial Resistance? If you say so, but since abandoning Resistance won't exactly lead to prosperity but rather to the Libyan scenario, perhaps our most pressing duty would be to inform Iranians subjected to BBC and Zionist International propaganda about this reality.

That's all I'm saying.
 
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Ahh seems business as usual here. Wannabe Arab mullah supporters going to extreme lengths in order to excuse a child killing rapist regime.

Funny thing is that all these mullah supporters live in comfortable Western countries lol
 
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Check the Groumd Forces thread, pictures of new military equipment and refurbished as well, it’s been up for awhile.
Nope, ground forces thread doesnt have updates on this latest batch of military equipment for Iran armed forces totaling over 1,000 pieces of equipment, surprising!
 
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The hard reality for them is that they aren't white, and that no matter what they do, how much worshipping they do, they will never be portrayed as whites, the west doesn't care of them neither Iranians i think. They are thinking somehow they will portray Iranians as whites like medias does with Israel, portraying them as whites, but only when it benefits them of course.

Whether worshipping the west and the white race, just everything beside 3rd world countries, kissing the *** of Whites and showing them "how much Iranians are the same as them", they aren't whites.

Denial of their own culture, ethnicity and history, complex of inferiority by multiple factors such as living in the West and being bombed with western culture, also the White Supremacist nests existing in their country govt such as the USA and also in EU, who shits on Iranians, Turks, Indians, Pakistanis (non-whites), every day, they don't care of you and consider you as an inferior race.

Anyone should be proud of who they are, and don't care of what the Whites or the Blacks or Atheists around the world or whoever thinks about them, if they aren't happy that Iran or Turkey have an Islamic history and that the best and most known figures of Iranian history dates from the Islamic period, that Iran have strictly nothing in common with Whites, that Iran have even more in common with Chinese than any White country, you should not care, Iran have more in common with any Arab country, whole Asia and neighbors than western Europe/Americas

They always answer lucid persons with "arab sucker" or "muslim boot licker" as they always do, there is no such level of hate anywhere else. Meanwhile, these kind of Iranian living outside of Iran, saying on internet that their race is the best, that they are "Aryans", "Sons of Dariush", spitting on Arabs, Pakistanis, Indians and just any non-whites, when they start to talk with a white, their hands starts to shake and they feel uncomfortable, this is the bitter truth of the Whiteophile Iranians/others.

And to be honest the places on Internet where so much hate appears comes from Atheists or Agnostics/people in denial, you see this a lot from some Indian atheists a lot who loves Israel and hate any non-white country, then starts to shake when talking to a white, this is the exact same with those Iranians in huge denial, they sometimes look like they've been brainwashed so much on.
 
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Nope, ground forces thread doesnt have updates on this latest batch of military equipment for Iran armed forces totaling over 1,000 pieces of equipment, surprising!
I don’t know what your looking for because now I’m confused it’s literally right there the 1000 pieces are a mix of new and refurbished military ware with pictures nothing absolutely amazing minus the fateh 360 mlrs which looks like a beast, several karrar tanks as well.
 
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The destruction of Iraq’s nuclear facilities wasn’t preceded by any buildup. One morning we woke up to find that the Iraqis were building a nuclear reactor, and then it was gone. Now, for 15 years, we’ve been waking up every morning to warnings, threats, pressure and lots of noise.
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If Israel truly had a military option of wiping out Iran’s nuclear facilities, Netanyahu’s performance shows that it has dissipated.
 
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The additional documents, which did not surface in a 53-page set that came to wide public attention online last week, paint a picture of the Russian government feuding over the count of the dead and wounded in the Ukraine war, with the domestic intelligence agency accusing the military of obscuring the scale of casualties that Russia has suffered.

The new batch, which contains 27 pages, reinforces how deeply American spy agencies have penetrated nearly every aspect of the Russian intelligence apparatus and military command structure. It also shows that the breach of American intelligence agencies could contain far more material than previously understood.

The FSB “calculated the actual number of Russians wounded and killed in action was closer to 110,000,” the document says.

American officials have previously estimated Russian losses at about 200,000 soldiers. Another leaked document reports the Russians had suffered 189,500-223,000 casualties as of February, including up to 43,000 killed in action, compared with 124,500-131,000 Ukrainian casualties, with up to 17,500 killed in action.
 
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More Than Two millions gather in Mashad at Imam Reza Shrine​


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CIA director says US no longer 'big kid on the geopolitical block'

  • By Al Mayadeen English
  • Source: Agencies
  • 13 Apr 20:53
William Burns, CIA Director, says the US can no longer guarantee its global position and has become challenged by the rise of both China and Russia.

CIA Director William Burns stated that the US no longer has the ability to guarantee its role as the dominant global hegemon as the country has been witnessing critical juncture change “that comes along a couple of times a century."

The CIA chief, during an address at the Baker Institute earlier this week, explained that despite the fact that Washington “still has a better hand to play than any of our rivals,” it is “no longer the only big kid on the geopolitical block and our position at the head of the table isn’t guaranteed.”

Moreover, Burns stressed that the growing relationship between Beijing and Moscow, which is set to become a “formidable challenge” for the CIA, refused to remain secondary global players. As such, the CIA chief highlighted the challenges and alleged that Beijing was “not content to only have a seat at the table; it wants to run the table,” while Russia, claimed Burns who served as the US ambassador to Moscow under George W. Bush, sought to “upend the table altogether.”

Read more: https://english.almayadeen.net/news...ys-us-no-longer-big-kid-on-the-geopolitical-b
 
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Japan is latent nuclear capability and has security guarantees from the US. Recently has started expanding their defense force at the encouragement of the US. Germany is also happy to let US and other NATO countries (France/UK) take on the brunt of military adventurism while focusing on its status as economic powerhouse.
You are wrong.

I agree in many benefits being a close ally to US and white power anglo saxon people (UK, Aus, Canada and others), but remember Japan has became a big bullseye of PLA armed forces and even Russia.

You are viewing only the benefits of this kind of alliance with western countries. But in reality Japan knows itself that too much reliance in this alliance and foreing policy dictated by US are pushing them to a possible III World war against China... and worse all, a possible III World War against China, Russia and North Korea.

Moreover excessive dependency in the foreing politcs of White House and deployment of advanced US weaponry in Japan has led this country to spend a crazy money in weapons and change their path from pacifism or non intervention to even international deployment of japanese armed forces serving american insterests in Africa, in Djibouti.
 
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