Iranian Chill Thread

[Hack-Hook]

Those guys are even weaker now after Trump discredited Rouhani and anything moderate.

rouhani downfall was stemmed in economical situation , if Raesi fail to improve the situation then he also fail again in the next election , people who their vote decide the outcome dont care about hijab or political view .

the only person who was elected because of freedom promises was Khatami .
ahmadi-nejad come to power because people didn't want rafsanjani . rouhani come to power because of his economical promises that well let say some people were "بی بصیرت" and he failed against Raesi because he failed his promises .
Raesi won later because Rouhani failed his promises and he promised improving economy and fighting corruption , if he fail them people choose another person later. and I assure you he was not elected for anti imperialist stances , he made no such promises in the elections .and the next election also will be competition about corruption and economy . who can satisfy people in those two regard will come up. the ones who their vote decide really don't care about a piece of clothes over their head (if you walk in tehran, shiraz or isfahan (or better say any city outside Qom and Mashhad) street , you'll see how they care about that or we import fighter from west or east or .....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1516144459012087813

Indeed there were reports in western propaganda media about Russia "running out" of missiles. But Russia's still using them on the battlefield. More self-defeating nonsense by NATO and their cronies.

Russia will never ran out of missile , or artillery shell or mortars . what they have little of is the precision ones . the fight showed that the time of unguided ammunition have come to an end , and if we don't face any surprises in case of a future war , we must upgrade our ammunition and artillery rockets to precision weapons .
sadly we only have good speed in converting missiles , for artillery rockets and shells our speed is less than desired . we don't have enough Kit to convert all unguided bomb in our air-force to glide weapons and so......

 

[Hack-Hook]

How much better? 10%? 20%? MANPA is able to improve turbines by 3% after decades of work.

So any “modernization”, is not suddenly going to make J-79 compete with AL-21 let alone cutting edge jet engines in the field. It will be small 0-5% range improvement and even that is big improvement for the engineers. But grand scheme of things it isn’t much.

J-85 and J-79 (if it exists) are good stepping stones.

But you ideally need something with AL-21 power at the minimum if you are thinking of building a interceptor. Which is what Iran needs the most. Bombers can wait. Iran needs something to replace the F-14 by 2040.

after all investing in these engines are waste of resources for military , they must invest in turbofan not turbojet

If you watch the full video of the parade you can see Karrar tank, but only or a few seconds. I don't understand these parades. Why don't they simply roll the tanks and armored vehicles down the street instead of having them on trucks ? Why don't they allow the viewer to get a good, full view of the weapons, front, sides and back, rather than a quick glance ? Just weird. Are amateurs in charge of the production ?

the tanks on the street means fixing asphalts wherever the tank moved

 

[jauk]

Why should Iran support them when they've done nothing but fu*ked Iran for the last 20 years. Cancelling deals, and dangling Iran like some trump card against the west.

It is a world of best interest for Iran to support Russia in any way possible. Nothing to do with emotions. Any challenge to the west is to Iran’s interest.

 

[Hack-Hook]

It is a world of best interest for Iran to support Russia in any way possible. Nothing to do with emotions. Any challenge to the west is to Iran’s interest.

challenge the wast for the sake of challenging the west ?
are we talking about a 4 year old child or a several thousand year nation ?

we must stay neutral in this matter.

 

[SalarHaqq]

he was partly responsible , for keeping special situation in Syria tat was in place since his father war with Israel , that made discontent in Syria ,

Whether this was a decisive factor in triggering the war is debatable.

it gave the government special power , that made people unhappy and it was unnecessary by any measure you calculate the situation and he later scrapped it but it was late then and foreigners at the time infiltrated the country , strangely he didn't need it even when terrorists were controlling outskirt of Damascus

That isn't relevant to my point though.

There's something called diplomatic and political expediency. When someone is in an elevated position of political responsibility like Rafsanjani, they don't just issue such statements without carefully considering their geopolitical relevance and impact in advance, regardless how technically accurate they might be.

Iran was in the middle of an extremely high stakes military campaign in support of the government in Damascus, thence political expediency dictated that someone like him don't come out and take aim at Iran's strategic ally the way he did. Also, it was nothing like a friendly advise simply meant to help an ally improve their governing skills or avert possible popular discontent: Rafsanjani resorted to deprecative ad hominem wording against President Al-Assad; if my memory serves me right, labeling him a "dictator" or something along those lines. Furthermore, Rafsanjani pretty much called into question Iran's policy of backing the Syrian state against the terrorist onslaught.

Now it's one thing if some random analyst, academic or journalist makes such a claim at this sort of a juncture. It's a wholly different pair of shoes, however, when an influential statesman does. In the latter case, it carries incomparably heavier political weight and signaling.

In short, Rafsanjani's declaration is not only symptomatic of the position the political factions (moderates and reformists) he presided over and/or bankrolled took with regards to the Iranian intervention in Syria - hesitant or fearful doesn't describe it accurately, they were opposing it plain and simple, just like they are opposed to Iranian arming of Hezbollah, to Iranian support of Palestinian movements as well as to the Islamic Republic's principled and foundational policy of Resistance against zio-American imperialism in general. But moreover, Rafsanjani's speech ran counter to basic diplomatic customs, in addition to being a potentially detrimental liability to Iran's efforts and position in Syria.

 

[Hack-Hook]

In short, Rafsanjani's declaration is not only symptomatic of the position the political factions he presided over and/or bankrolled (i.e. moderates and reformists)

as many time stated for reformist Rafsanjani was عالیجناب سرخ‌پوش he was moderates favorite the favorite of reformists was عالیجناب خاکستری

 

[SalarHaqq]

as many time stated for reformist Rafsanjani was عالیجناب سرخ‌پوش he was moderates favorite the favorite of reformists was عالیجناب خاکستری

This is why I chose to write 'factions he presided over and/or bankrolled'. Rafsanjani lent financial support to reformist election campaigns from 2009 (or 2005) onward. Akbar Ganji published Alijenabe sorkhpush va alijenabe khakestari ten (or six) years prior.

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

مردم عادی ایران از اوکراین حمایت می‌کنند‌

سفیر اوکراین در تهران گفت: اوکراین حمایت مردم اکثر کشور‌ها از جمله ایرانیان را داراست. به نظر می‌رسد افکار عمومی همواره حامی اوکراین است. در ایران از مردم عادی این حمایت از اوکراین را می‌بینیم.

www.sharghdaily.com

-در این فرصت می‌خواهم خطاب به دولت جمهوری اسلامی ایران بگویم که ما با شما دوست هستیم و کشور‌های ما با هم دوستند، ما نیاز به کمک داریم و آنچه ما درباره آن صحبت می‌کنیم کمک‌های بشردوستانه مثل ارسال دارو و محصولات پزشکی است که این کمک‌ها به منظور حمایت و افزایش توان نظامی اوکراین نیست. اوکراین در زمان وقوع حوادث و بلایای طبیعی در ایران مانند وقوع زلزله همیشه کمک‌های انسان‌دوستانه خود را به این کشور ارسال کرده است.


- وزیر اوکراین گفتند که این کشور برای چند سال محصولات کشاورزی، غلات، روغن، ذرت و دیگر مواد خوراکی ذخیره دارد و حتی می‌تواند صادرات داشته باشد، اما باید درنظر داشته باشیم که حدود هشتاد هزار کیلومتر مربع در اوکراین مین‌گذاری شده است؛ و از سوی دیگر مخازن نفتی، سوخت، غلات و محصولات غذایی هدف موشک‌های روسیه قرار گرفته‌اند. پس فعلا معلوم نیست که ما بتوانیم چه میزان از زمین‌های کشاورزی را زیر کشت ببریم.


- اوکراین ۸۰ درصد مواد غذایی، شامل غلات و گندم کشور لبنان، ۹۰ درصد گندم سوریه که به واسطه‌ی ترکیه به این کشور وارد می‌شود را تأمین می‌کند. همچنین ۲۷ درصد موادغذایی کشور یمن از اوکراین وارد می‌شد. این‌ها اماری است که دبیر کل سازمان ملل متحد، آنتونیو گوترش ارائه کرده است. با توجه به این آمار ما، شرایط کنونی اوکراین خاورمیانه و آفریقا با خطر کمبود موادغذایی روبه رو خواهد شد.

1.If we put aside baseless accusations of Mr ambassador we should look at our worst days like after Trump's sanctions or Covid-19 and see what Ukraine did for us it's now our duty to pay back the same amount or even more that Ukraine helped us during our bad days.

2.Ukraine ambassador is asking for Iran's help or more active role in regards to shortage of food and medicine then he puts example of Turkey that helps Syrian food shortage ! This one is a bit confusing may be wants more NATO or Turkish style "humanitarian aid"for their people. the answear is no you don't want that

3. Iran do have good relationships with some of Ukraine's neighbors like Russia and Poland may be Iran can start talks with them in regards to refugees and civilians caught in middle of conflict zones.

 

[QWECXZ]

مردم عادی ایران از اوکراین حمایت می‌کنند‌

سفیر اوکراین در تهران گفت: اوکراین حمایت مردم اکثر کشور‌ها از جمله ایرانیان را داراست. به نظر می‌رسد افکار عمومی همواره حامی اوکراین است. در ایران از مردم عادی این حمایت از اوکراین را می‌بینیم.

www.sharghdaily.com

-در این فرصت می‌خواهم خطاب به دولت جمهوری اسلامی ایران بگویم که ما با شما دوست هستیم و کشور‌های ما با هم دوستند، ما نیاز به کمک داریم و آنچه ما درباره آن صحبت می‌کنیم کمک‌های بشردوستانه مثل ارسال دارو و محصولات پزشکی است که این کمک‌ها به منظور حمایت و افزایش توان نظامی اوکراین نیست. اوکراین در زمان وقوع حوادث و بلایای طبیعی در ایران مانند وقوع زلزله همیشه کمک‌های انسان‌دوستانه خود را به این کشور ارسال کرده است.


- وزیر اوکراین گفتند که این کشور برای چند سال محصولات کشاورزی، غلات، روغن، ذرت و دیگر مواد خوراکی ذخیره دارد و حتی می‌تواند صادرات داشته باشد، اما باید درنظر داشته باشیم که حدود هشتاد هزار کیلومتر مربع در اوکراین مین‌گذاری شده است؛ و از سوی دیگر مخازن نفتی، سوخت، غلات و محصولات غذایی هدف موشک‌های روسیه قرار گرفته‌اند. پس فعلا معلوم نیست که ما بتوانیم چه میزان از زمین‌های کشاورزی را زیر کشت ببریم.


- اوکراین ۸۰ درصد مواد غذایی، شامل غلات و گندم کشور لبنان، ۹۰ درصد گندم سوریه که به واسطه‌ی ترکیه به این کشور وارد می‌شود را تأمین می‌کند. همچنین ۲۷ درصد موادغذایی کشور یمن از اوکراین وارد می‌شد. این‌ها اماری است که دبیر کل سازمان ملل متحد، آنتونیو گوترش ارائه کرده است. با توجه به این آمار ما، شرایط کنونی اوکراین خاورمیانه و آفریقا با خطر کمبود موادغذایی روبه رو خواهد شد.

1.If we put aside baseless accusations of Mr ambassador we should look at our worst days like after Trump's sanctions or Covid-19 and see what Ukraine did for us it's now our duty to pay back the same amount or even more that Ukraine helped us during our bad days.

2.Ukraine ambassador is asking for Iran's help or more active role in regards to shortage of food and medicine then he puts example of Turkey that helps Syrian food shortage ! This one is a bit confusing may be wants more NATO or Turkish style "humanitarian aid"for their people. the answear is no you don't want that

3. Iran do have good relationships with some of Ukraine's neighbors like Russia and Poland may be Iran can start talks with them in regards to refugees and civilians caught in middle of conflict zones.

What did they do for us? Remind us of what Ukraine has done for Iran based on humanitarian grounds.

 

[Cancerous Tumor]

What did they do for us? Remind us of what Ukraine has done for Iran based on humanitarian grounds.

I don't have data for it even if there is 1 box of mask or 1 bottle of water it's time to pay back. their ambassador made it public so response should be public.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1516369751307702278

Did Houthi’s manage to produce an armoured humvee better than what Iran has? Or is this a foreign vehicle?

 

[aryobarzan]

seen this before but not in quantities...Yemen (Hothie) made armored Vehicle. I am impressed they have brought this in to so some production level ..looks good..

 

[Hack-Hook]

What did they do for us? Remind us of what Ukraine has done for Iran based on humanitarian grounds.

we must stay neutral , and don't change our relation toward either side of the conflict

by the way when all European country expelled Iranian from their universities , Ukraine didn't do that

 

[QWECXZ]

we must stay neutral , and don't change our relation toward either side of the conflict

by the way when all European country expelled Iranian from their universities , Ukraine didn't do that

That's different from giving them oil for free.
Ukraine has had an anti-Iran stance ever since the new government came to power through a color revolution.
They even went as far as claiming that Iran shot down the Ukrainian passenger plane on purpose but it is hiding the real reasons.
They mistreated Iranian students that were studying medicine in Ukraine, forcing them to collect garbage before leaving the country in the middle of war.
They are obviously not a friend of Iran anymore.

And no. No European country expelled Iranians from their universities.
The Europeans imposed a ban on Iranians studying nuclear engineering and science and that was in 2008 or 2009, after the fourth round of UNSC sanctions on Iran.
I doubt we have any nuclear scientists studying in Ukraine. So, that's irrelevant.

 

[Hack-Hook]

And no. No European country expelled Iranians from their universities.
The Europeans imposed a ban on Iranians studying nuclear engineering and science and that was in 2008 or 2009, after the fourth round of UNSC sanctions on Iran.
I doubt we have any nuclear scientists studying in Ukraine. So, that's irrelevant.

the ban was on nuclear physics , but the universities said they can't stop other fields students to access the banned fields data , so many university in Europe outright banned our students and expelled many Iranian who were studies in other fields