Iranian Chill Thread

[Blue In Green]

@Iranians: This guy is a newly registered troll. don't take his bait. I think he's that supposedly "Morocan Jew" but Pakistani wahabi troll, who's created the new account.
Let alone the irony of making the above two statements in a single post, but as Americans say, either put up or shut up. Either do what you say in the real world, or shut it.

Well said, I don't think any of us should give them the time of day. Especially in the "Iranian Chill Thread" of all places.

Saudi Arabia military is borderline incompetent. That is why it sends mercenaries and asked Pakistan to go into Pakistan.

This is not my opinion, literally online is filled with US advisors and generals (and other western nations) who have lamented how poorly trained Saudi Arabia is.

In Yemen, your targeting data and intelligence was supplied by the US. Whenever they did it on their own they end up indiscriminately bombing weddings and shops. You know the same thing Arabs criticized Assad over, but are strangely silent when it comes to Saudi Arabia.

Also not sure how much damage Saudi can inflict on Iran. Along the coastline and its oil terminals are pretty much where Saudi could get some hits in.

But it’s BMs from China are very inaccurate and low in numbers to be used against tactical targets. It’s cruise missile supply is short range and low.

Iran’s air defense are quite decent and if Russia hasn’t knocked out Ukraine’s ancient air defenses yet...then not sure Saudi Arabia will do any better having to flying across the PG.

Not to mention nearly every major Saudi airfield will be hit by Iran in opening salvos of war alongside major ammo depots and oil terminals. So even if planes do take off where will they land?

So Saudi damage will be limited to Iranian islands and coastline and maybe 100KM into Iranian territory via air. Certainly air raids to Tehran or Northern Iran are highly unlikely.

Again this assumes scenario is strictly an Iran vs Saudi Arabia scenario. Which again I think is unlikely. Both sides don’t like direct warfare and prefer behind the scenes. This doesn’t have to do with MAD, but mostly because both sides are highly pragmatic.

If it’s US vs Iran, then Saudi Arabia will gladly let US do the work and play the victim card rather than directly responding.

Anyway I’m sure if India established air bases in Sri Lanka and used them to attack Pakistan that Pakistan itself would also attack Sri Lanka airbases for hosting the attack. This is within the rules of war and engagement. If you give shelter to the enemy.

Don't engage these idiots brother, you're way above them and you don't have to waste your time trying to convince these radical asshats who actually think about "re-annexing" Iran as if it was theirs to begin with.

You won't get anywhere, just ignore and move on.

 

[_Nabil_]

@Hack-Hook , @Blue In Green @thesaint @Hormuz @TheImmortal @QWECXZ @aryobarzan .......

Please restraint from replying you those brainless trolls, you are wasting your time and giving them importance they don't have.

 

[TheImmortal]

The problem with some Iranians is that they have militarily overestimated themselves which is unneccessarily not correct. Iran failed against an insurgency which KSA didn't actully and had to call in Russia which is something you are blaming on KSA which didn't happen to them but to Iran and in to a man being creditted with well nothing In Solemani himself acknowledged defeat against an insurgency in his own words.

KSA doesn't have boots on the ground in Yemen contrary to what people would like us to believe.

Also thinking BMs will win a conflict will be the end of Iran period. They will be buried talking about BMs. If KSA had to fight Iran it will seek ways to put troops on Iran itself after taking the ADS.

Besides Russia has shitty airforce compared KSA now because SU-57 has been proven to not being able of taking out SU-24 and MIGs which F-16s and Typhoons will take out any

If KSA is incompetent how come Yemen is turned inside out as if they timetravelled from the 12-century AD.

People can't have it both ways I have seen same people blaming KSA also saying they are incompetent it is contradiction. I have even seen some houthis complaining about their fighters dying back when Marib was active and saying it was cowardly saudi airstrikes? Again the contradiction.

Nonetheless Iran lost to an insurgent group and it is basically a paper tiger.. KSA doesn't view Iran as threat it has bigger alliance in the region and interior of Arabia but lets exclude that just KSA-Iran even in that situation Iran is basing itself on theories that will not stick once first bullet is fired on them

First calling Syria an “insurgency” is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Since when are chenchens, Uzbekis, Azeris, Saudis, Egyptians, Moroccans, Afghans, Arabs considered “Syrian Insurgents”?

Iran was in Syria as an advisor role. Had some Iraqi militias, HZ, and Afghan militias to help coordinate the war. Very few soldiers on the ground just officers and generals trying to put together a terribly trained ex Soviet military (Syrian armed forces).

As for the results, they speak volumes. Assad had lost half of Damascus before Iranian intervention terrorists were close on Assad palace m. After he now has almost all of Syria. Minus the Kurds in the north and a small Jihadistan in Idlib under Iran-Turkey-Russia peacekeeping alliance.

Before the war, Iran had little influence in Syria. Now it has military bases, land, militias, and a say in the power structure and another flank on Israel‘s border.

I don’t see how that is a loss for Iran. It kept the parts of Syria it wanted and eventually all of Syria will reconcile with Assad in 5-10 years because he has the most of the country.

In Yemen, Saudi Arabia did a great job destroying the country, but last I checked Houthis also hold most of the country (or at least the parts of the country that isn’t just desert and rural).

Now Iran has another force that it can use to Harrass Israel and to a much lesser extent Saudi Arabia.

So I don’t think Iran overestimates it military capability. Because Iran isn’t really using much military capability. It operates via proxies and its advisors/special forces arm. It establishes, trains, and equips and gives technology to groups that share its mindset. It operates in realm of plausible deniability.

So this Saudi vs Iran direct war is a waste of time to talk about.

 

[Jalut]

First calling Syria an “insurgency” is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Since when are chenchens, Uzbekis, Azeris, Saudis, Egyptians, Moroccans, Afghans, Arabs considered “Syrian Insurgents”?

Iran was in Syria as an advisor role. Had some Iraqi militias, HZ, and Afghan militias to help coordinate the war. Very few soldiers on the ground just officers and generals trying to put together a terribly trained ex Soviet military (Syrian armed forces).

As for the results, they speak volumes. Assad had lost half of Damascus before Iranian intervention terrorists were close on Assad palace m. After he now has almost all of Syria. Minus the Kurds in the north and a small Jihadistan in Idlib under Iran-Turkey-Russia peacekeeping alliance.

Before the war, Iran had little influence in Syria. Now it has military bases, land, militias, and a say in the power structure and another flank on Israel‘s border.

I don’t see how that is a loss for Iran. It kept the parts of Syria it wanted and eventually all of Syria will reconcile with Assad in 5-10 years because he has the most of the country.

In Yemen, Saudi Arabia did a great job destroying the country, but last I checked Houthis also hold most of the country (or at least the parts of the country that isn’t just desert and rural).

Now Iran has another force that it can use to Harrass Israel and to a much lesser extent Saudi Arabia.

So I don’t think Iran overestimates it military capability. Because Iran isn’t really using much military capability. It operates via proxies and its advisors/special forces arm. It establishes, trains, and equips and gives technology to groups that share its mindset. It operates in realm of plausible deniability.

So this Saudi vs Iran direct war is a waste of time to talk about.

You are doing some nitpicking here.. Assad doesn't have 40% of the country with him and that is significiant amount. The Russians managed to safe what they can but it is not their fault that other powers entered to grab something. In Reality SAA, HZ and all these were just serving under the Russians and became proxies for them. But it was the Russians who by the way had 70k on the ground which is not talked about anywhere and kept silent about.

Yes the country is destroyed in Yemen but only the parts outside gov't and also 80% of the country is in the gov't held areas including 45% of the population center is in the gov't held areas, Oil fields, ports, airspace and everything in between including Islands. is with them without putting any force on the ground not once for the last 7 years. The local element is just militarily strong enough they don't need any help against the rebels element.

Some do around this quarters overestimate quite often and also I agree with the Israel notion and besides this is good live ammunition training for KSA hence it can end the war if they want to politically with a settlement but there is no incentive for doing so but keeping it on the low burner benefits them and provides good training ground and they don't even wanna seek ulitimatum finish to them even if the H-Rebels were being completely overrun they will give them life-support because this benefits them elsewhere politically I don't wanna go in depth with it now as that deserves a different topic.

I could have replied in more depth but there is no need to honestly as the thread posters wanna move on with the thread hence there was no need to drag it further

 

[Maula Jatt]

Probably you need Iranian brains to revive golden age as you lack in this department. Also you have taken jews and christians as your protector and friends(awliya):

Quran 5:51

Yusuf Ali: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

Don't know about other things
but this won't end well for them - I love GCC and wider arab people and have nothing against them except good things

(I hate Wahhabisation of Muslim world though- wish they hadn't done that)

But decision to trust non-arabs and especially non - Muslim western world with Thier security (giving bases to Israel)

Won't turn out well for em

 

[SalarHaqq]

Notice that the three anti-Iran troll accounts freshly popping out of nowhere - "ytterbium", "Jalut" and "Dragons", with their offensive yet ludicrous and substandard input were all created on the very same day, namely March 1, 2022. One of them keeps "liking" another one's posts.

Seems like the NATO-zionist propaganda machine is in full swing with the current conflict in Ukraine. This in turn appears to have encouraged some random supporters of third rate US / zionist vassal regimes to be active overtime and to seek compensation for their frustrations, seeing how Islamic Iran has been slapping their beloved regimes left and right for over four decades. Thus they will choose to spend hours trolling a dedicated Iranian small-talk thread hosted on a Pakistani forum... utter desperation in its full splendor.

Ignore these clowns and more importantly, do report their comments systematically. This is the Iranian Chill Thread, there's no room for racialist or sectarianist invectives against Iranians, provocative cartoons or other forms of flamebaiting.

It's clear that some people are mightily exasperated due to Iran and the Resistance having not just successfully deterred the global "superpower" (their master) but making gain after gain as time goes by. Dire outlooks for global oppression indeed.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Why is Pakistan friends with China? Why was Iran trying to Help Armenia against Azerbaijan? Don't be partial or hypocrite but do it full scale. GCC has never cried for a non-muslim nation attacking a brotherly nation but Iran did that. Israel has no foreign bases anywhere and the only base it had was once in Eritera which I believe is closed now..

Imho I am not sold on Rafidism they have never contributed to the Ummah but de-contributed. Look 75% of the known world was taken by Muslims and Rafidism has not contributed anything because they were busy being in Shrines and at grave-cermonies..

FYI most of south asian Muslims including Pak are doing the same shrines and grave ceremonies thing so to take a dig on others you are disrespecting your own people and their beliefs

 

[SalarHaqq]

Iran is king in practical terms, although numerically and probably capability wise the Chinese are ahead yet they haven't used any of their weapons in a modern combat setting whereas the IRGC has on numerous occasions.

It's highly improbable that China is fielding as many TBM's as Iran. Their doctrine is different and does not call for this many ballistic missiles to be produced, nor for such a significant percentage of their defence budget to be dedicated exclusively to the development of this sort of weapon. No country on earth has ever focused on BM mass production like Iran. I will wholeheartedly go with Patarames' suggestion that what we're talking about is an arsenal in the tens of thousands range.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498798931379167234

Stand up to the west this is what happens.

 

[Blue In Green]

It's highly improbable that China is fielding as many TBM's as Iran. Their doctrine is different and does not call for this many ballistic missiles to be produced, nor for such a significant percentage of their defence budget to be dedicated exclusively to the development of this sort of weapon. No country on earth has ever focused on BM mass production like Iran. I will wholeheartedly go with Patarames' suggestion that what we're talking about is an arsenal in the tens of thousands range

Fair enough dadash, chi-begim digeh lol. IRGC AEROSPACE MISSILE force's current arsenal is most likely the most numerous in the world but i'd imagine if the Chinese wanted to rapidly increase their stock by mass-producing ballistic missiles, then it would be relatively easy for them.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498798931379167234

Stand up to the west this is what happens.

You think this will push Iran and Russia closer to one another bro?

 

[QWECXZ]

You think this will push Iran and Russia closer to one another bro?

I know you didn't ask me, but the answer is a firm no.

 

[TheImmortal]

You think this will push Iran and Russia closer to one another bro?

It will push Russia into China’s manipulating arms. Now China can leverage its power and get very favorable deals out Russia (like it did Iran).

IRGC is really sucking up to Russia meaning that it’s trying to get in favor with Putin. Likely to get some tech transfer and arms deals, but also some economic deals in Russia for Iranian companies.

Not sure how successful this attempt will be. Need a total fracture into Russian-Western relations. We are close, but still a noticeable distance away.

 

[Blue In Green]

I know you didn't ask me, but the answer is a firm no.

You make me sad lmao. but yeah can't really argue against that I guess.

One would hope that the Russians will see just how hopelessly isolated they are from joining the rest of Europe and the sordid "West". Focusing East like Iran is doing is more or less the way to go out of necessity.

 

[QWECXZ]

@QWECXZ @SalarHaqq @Blue In Green va baghiyeh bachcheh ha, yek idea i be zehnam resid, va madraki ham baraash nadaaram. mitounim raaje' behesh brainstorm konim?

1. Mahmoud video ye ma'roufi ra montasher kard ke amrica va rousiye va chin tavaafogh kardand ke rous ha ookrayn, chiniha ha taivan, va amricayi Iran ra begirand/taht e feshaar begzaarand.
   1. Ayaa Mahmoud chert migeh?
   2. belakhareh ye zamaani raees jomhour boudeh va vaghe'an yek chizi shenideh.
2. Amrica dar ebtedaaye kaar, vaakonesh jeddi neshoun nadaad vali haalaa ke rous ha taa kherkhereh tou ookrayn hastand, shorou' kardeh be tahrim haye sangin. in man ra yaad e kaari ke amrica ba saddam tou jang e avval e khalij e fars ba kouwait kard mindaazeh. avval dar e bagh e sabz dar mored e koweit, ba'd tartib e saddam ra daad.
3. Aayaa in senaariyo inja ham baraaye ghaziyeh oukrayn mohtamal hast?
   1. avaaghebesh baraaye iran chiyeh?
   2. rabti be in ghaziye i ke roushaa resolution e emaaraati ra bar zed e yaman rad nakardand, daareh?
   3. Putin ham te'daad e kheyli kami be oukrayn bordeh. yek dalil mitouneh kaahesh e talafaat e gheyr e nezaami basheh vali mitouneh rabti be khaater jam'i az amrica dashteh basheh?

Ehtemalesh ke hast va nemishe radesh kard chon be har hal Iran manabeye kheili bozorgi dare va mishe rahat Iran ro fada kardo taghsim kard baraye bazi-haye bozorgtar. Amma video-e mamooti ro dari bezari bebinim daghighan estedlalesh chie?

Albate mamooti ham asheghe jalbe tavajoh hast amma shodanie chizi ke migi. Be khosoos age gharar bashe jange jadidi rah biofte ya taghsim bandie ghodrat avaz beshe. Age chin o rusiye o amrika be har dalili ba ham dige hamdast beshan orupa service hast + baghiye donya va ta chand gharn kesi nemitoone bedoone ejazashoon nafas beskeh. Har chand ke khob ehtemalesh kheili kheili kheili kam hast.

In video-sh hast:

Harfesh baraye 1 mahe pish hast. Va mishe goft la aghal 2 neshoone az harf-hash ro ta alan didim. Hamleye Rusiye be Ukrayn ke Amrika amalan hich kari nakarde felan va Orupa dare khodesh ro jer mide, va raye mosbate Rusiye be ghatname alayhe Houthi-haye Yaman.

You make me sad lmao. but yeah can't really argue against that I guess.

One would hope that the Russians will see just how hopelessly isolated they are from joining the rest of Europe and the sordid "West". Focusing East like Iran is doing is more or less the way to go out of necessity.

If we put conspiracy theories aside, the real question that Russia asks itself before it gets close to Iran will be like this:
What do I gain from alliance with Iran? What do I lose?

Answer both of these questions on your own and you'll see why Russia doesn't get close to Iran. Iran does not add much to Russia as an ally. Neither militarily, nor economically. That's why I have been a long time advocate of Iran going nuclear. At least militarily we will have some weight and relevance then.

 

[QWECXZ]

Aaayaa in emkaanesh hast ke amrica in ghol ra be rousiye daadeh ke kaari nakoneh, ta rousiye ra be oukraayn bekesheh vali haalaa ke rousiyeh dar baatlaagh e oukraayn hast, mikhaad rous ha ra tahrim kone?
moshaabeh e in kaar ra amrica ba saddam dar mored e koweit kard. avval ghol daad ke kaari zed e araagh nakoneh, ba'd ke saddam koweit ra gereft, khod e amrica be saddam hamleh kard.

Amrika ba Rusiye kari nemitoone bokone. Rusiye ghavitarin selah-haye hasteyi ba behtarin delivery ro dare. Amrika mesle sag az Rusiye mitarse. Kolle NATO mesle sag az Rusiye mitarsan.

Age harfe Mamooti dorost bashe Rusiye ehtemal dare Ukrayn ro begire va too Belarus o Ukrayn paygah bezane jash Amrika shooroo kone tak tak proxy-haye Iran ro hadaf begire ta biyad soraghe khodemoon. Sarneveshte Yaman, Aragh va Suriye taeen mikone ke Amrika miyad kenare gooshe ma ya na. Age in harf dorost bashe bayad entezar-e shadid shodane hamle be Yaman, hazfe niroohaye Iran too Aragh va kenar keshidane Rusiye az jange Suriye ro dashte bashim.