Iranian Chill Thread

[SalarHaqq]

But now we have mad dogs of various sizes around Iran that look at the mirror and instead of seeing a mouse see a Tiger !!!!.Iran needs a modern airforce soon...

Those second tier adversaries are at least as vulnerable as the US to Iranian missile-centric counter-strike. No worries to have, when the Americans aren't able to reach their objectives through military means, then this is even truer for any number of possibly hostile neighbors.

for Iran Missiles and airforce should not be mutually exclusive...we can afford both..I for one am now convinced both are needed soon..Bring the airforce a notch ahead with some $$$..after all Iran is world's 17 economy..

BUY OR BUILD...NOW THAT IS ANOTHER STORY..LOL

Any purchase of fighter jets will have to stay within the established doctrinal framework. Many different types of weapons could theoretically be acquired, the question is always A- are they cost-effective, especially considering the fact that Iran can't afford to go "military first" to the extent Korea did in the 1990's for example, and B- do they make sense in comparison to possible alternatives and in view of realistic conflict scenarii Iran might get caught up in.

I can see Iran possibly buying a couple dozen fighters from Russia in the coming years, although it's far from certain. But even if it doesn't happen, it will not really put Iran at so much of an increased risk.

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You are quite decent and I enjoy your posts from time to time and I have seen you going with the notion of an ''Iranian deterence'' being a thing and I know you are a patriotic guy and there is nothing but good in that but realistically speaking Iran could fall in a matter of weeks which is an unfortunate truth. You are translating the lack of a political incentive with deterence that is just unrealistic.

Iran's el grid, water channels, ADS, air force and airports could be destroyed within 24 hours leading to your conventional forces taking aerial beating while they are raided in multiple incursions from different axes points and politically you have no strong alliance regionally no back up. A regime change could happen in Iran within weeks.

Within days they will encircle major cities and the multiple incursion will overwhelm your conventional forces who will start to thin out by the hour.

But no need to worry there is no political incentive for such things in such scale and can be averted by not commiting political suicide and enforcing no other alternatives on the other parties

Well thanks for the comment, now all I can say is that if you study in detail and from serious, non-propagandistic sources the history of relations between Iran on the one hand and the US and zionist regimes on the other hand since the 1979 Islamic Revolution, I'm confident that eventually you'll come to acknowledge the hostility these imperial powers have had for Iran, as well as the massive efforts they put into trying to provoke "regime change" in Tehran.

It would be time-consuming to go into the details of these deeply adversarial relations, so I'll simply wrap it up with a few hints... The first one, no country other than Iran is subjected to a propaganda war this intense - a comparative study of different foreign language media of western regimes (like the BBC, Voice of America and so on) will reveal that their Persian-language services usually spew several times the amount of propaganda than even their Chinese- or Russian-speaking ones. Another indicator is the fact that every exiled Iranian opposition grouplet (from monarchists to liberals to communists to religious extremists and "ethnic" separatists) enjoys massive support (money, training, intelligence, propaganda, sometimes arms) from NATO regimes, zionists as well as some of their regional allies like Saudi Arabia. A third quick reminder, is that none of the states America actually waged war upon over the past 43 years, whether Saddam's Iraq, Libya or others, has been as detrimental to US / zionist interests as Iran. If Washington conducted large scale military operations against smaller opponents like those mentioned, then surely it will be motivated to operate in a similar manner against Iran if it thought that the military option is actually affordable (and even so, to save face they always claim that this option is "on the table").

As for the purely military aspect of how such a conflict would play out, I can only encourage familiarization with Iranian area denial (A2/AD) capability and doctrine. There are analyses / comments on the topic on this forum, and even western or zionist scholars have been objective enough at times to explain why the military option against Iran would be so costly and difficult for them to implement.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498363942632136704

Total also pulling out I believe. Means sanctions will only get worse and not better.

 

[_Nabil_]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498363942632136704

Total also pulling out I believe. Means sanctions will only get worse and not better.

No problem, the Chinese will buy the shares ...

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498311829474496518

No problem, the Chinese will buy the shares ...

China doesn’t have experience nor the tech for arctic drilling, hence why Russia relied on western oil and gas firms to assist.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498399629569835016

Visually confirmed 300 pieces of mechanized armour or vehicles lost by Russia so far.

 

[TheImmortal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498396843318947840

Which begs the question, how dumb does Russia feel supplying S-400 to the treacherous Turks?

Turks are more two faced than the Zionists at this point. Explains why Israel and Turkey have relations....two peas in a pod.

 

[Stryker1982]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498396843318947840

Which begs the question, how dumb does Russia feel supplying S-400 to the treacherous Turks?

Turks are more two faced than the Zionists at this point. Explains why Israel and Turkey have relations....two peas in a pod.

The most amusing part of this, is where they sold the S-400 to Turkey, and Turkey rewarded them by selling TB2's to Ukraine IMAO.

I gotta say, Russian decision making has been very poor and they should've known better, yet they continue to abuse Iran's position as the most sanctioned nation on earth instead of investing in it.

 

[QWECXZ]

The UNSC for the first time has labeled Houthies as a terrorist organization and it has imposed an arms embargo on them. A very curious incident at this time of global tensions.

 

[rmi5]

The UNSC for the first time has labeled Houthies as a terrorist organization and it has imposed an arms embargo on them. A very curious incident at this time of global tensions.

UAE, Russia scratched each others back. UAE proposed this resolution, Russia didn't object it. UAE also didn't vote against Russia in UNSC, earlier this week.

 

[QWECXZ]

UAE, Russia scratched each others back. UAE proposed this resolution, Russia didn't object it. UAE also didn't vote against Russia in UNSC, earlier this week.

Which is a perfect example once again of why Iran needs to become a nuclear state to be taken seriously by its so-called "allies".

Neither China nor Russia bothered to veto it.

 

[rmi5]

Russia still wants to be considered european, it's the west that refuses it. Please read about Russian oligarchs, their connections to US/UK financial system, their infightings, their support for Putin, you'll get a better picture about why Russia/Putin acts the way it does. Ideally, Russia wants to act according to Alexander Dugin's principles, but they won't fully do it, as special interest groups won't allow it.

 

[Stryker1982]

Which is a perfect example once again of why Iran needs to become a nuclear state to be taken seriously by its so-called "allies".

Neither China nor Russia bothered to veto it.

Mhm.

If Iran did what Russia did, it'd get bombed by 50 countries, but because Russia is a major nuclear power, no one dares touch it.

 

[QWECXZ]

Mhm.

If Iran did what Russia did, it'd get bombed by 50 countries, but because Russia is a major nuclear power, no one dares touch it.

Exactly. To think that they cut off Iran completely from the international economy over literally nothing at the stroke of Trump's pen, but even now after Russia trying to invade a European capital they are still reluctant to cut off Russia from the SWIFT (only 80% of the Russian banks will be cut off) should demonstrate to any sane person the deterrence of nuclear weapons not only to prevent military aggression, but also full-scale economic aggression.

Although, to be fair, Russia's status as an energy super power capable of producing high-tech products at home and with large freshwater resources should be factored into our analysis as well.

 

[rmi5]

Which is a perfect example once again of why Iran needs to become a nuclear state to be taken seriously by its so-called "allies".

Neither China nor Russia bothered to veto it.

Let me write this for you in Farsi. Sorry I'm not good with Farsi/Keyboard, let me do it in fingilish.

Rousiye va chin motefaavet hastand. Hatman, 100%, tosiye mikonam ke video haye Nexus Institute ra dar youtube bebini. ounja, dar sal e 2017, Dugin >> maghz e Putin, Levy >> kasi ke france ra migardound va tou monaazeraat e riyaasat jomhouriye velayati va jalili ham behesh eshaareh kardan, Blinken >> ke alaan rasman vazir e khaarejeh amrikaast, Zhang Weiwei >> mo'aadel e chiniye inhaa, ba ham monaazereh kardand. Behet komak mikoneh ke bedouni daastan chi hast va chera inaa sar e rous ha rikhtand va ghablesh Iran va ba'dan chin. Bannon ham yek monaazereh ba Levy, kharej as Nexus daareh ke nimeh ye dovvomesh ra hatman pishnahad mikonam ke bebini.

The followings are not bad either, just remember Wahid Azal is an Azali/Baabi, so his views will be somewhat pro UK.

 

[TheImmortal]

Exactly. To think that they cut off Iran completely from the international economy over literally nothing at the stroke of Trump's pen, but even now after Russia trying to invade a European capital they are still reluctant to cut off Russia from the SWIFT (only 80% of the Russian banks will be cut off) should demonstrate to any sane person the deterrence of nuclear weapons not only to prevent military aggression, but also full-scale economic aggression.

Although, to be fair, Russia's status as an energy super power capable of producing high-tech products at home and with large freshwater resources should be factored into our analysis as well.

“Only 80%” you left out the CB of Russia.

This move is quite unprecedented. You are talking about one of the 21st century world superpowers. These guys literally fought Hitler and they are a Veto holder. No offense to our country. But compared to Russia we are nothing on the world stage in terms of geopolitical power Country Club.

So yes this is unprecedented since the Cold War we have never seen a Veto holder be treated this harshly, Iran is still just a middle eastern brown country in the eyes of the World who happens to have experienced a power growth in last 2 decades. Even still, it’s not close to being a world power.

 

[QWECXZ]

“Only 80%” you left out the CB of Russia.

This move is quite unprecedented. You are talking about one of the 21st century world superpowers. These guys literally fought Hitler and they are a Veto holder. No offense to our country. But compared to Russia we are nothing on the world stage in terms of geopolitical power Country Club.

So yes this is unprecedented since the Cold War we have never seen a Veto holder be treated this harshly, Iran is still just a middle eastern brown country in the eyes of the World who happens to have experienced a power growth in last 2 decades. Even still, it’s not close to being a world power.

It is unprecedented since the Cold War, but it is Russia that we are talking about. These guys closed their country to the rest of the world for decades and managed to be a formidable entity that even today the Europeans soil their pants at the mere thought of them becoming powerful again.

Yes, Iran is a joke compared to Russia. It's not an insult to our country. It's a fact. Russia is way larger than Iran, its population is 75% more than ours, and they are better educated than us. Unlike us that we're dealing with drought, Russia has access to freshwater resources in abundance, helping their agriculture and industry. And they happen to have thousands of strategic and tactical nukes that we can only dream of. These are not insults. These are facts.

And that's exactly my point. Iran was doing nothing wrong when we were punished harshly. Iran was cut off from the international economy only because Netanyahu asked Trump to do it and Trump went for it. Our politicians should look at these events very carefully and realize what deterrence and power mean. Fooling ourselves with wishful thinking and pretending that nuclear weapons are not necessary because they're too pussy to build them is not going to help.