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47% effectiveness is less than a coin flip....
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47% effectiveness is less than a coin flip....
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look at the chart closely its not vaccine effectiveness, and yes 47% effectiveness is not worthy of being called a vaccine
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Yes the chart is of the stock price crashing on the announcement which is what the tweet says. What were you looking for, a chart that shows 47% effectiveness? Lol
Yeah ironically the stock price fell to the same numerical value as the efficacy rating. Someone else on twitter mentioned that in the post. Anyways any vaccine with a less than 50% efficacy rating is not considered suitable for mass distribution and will not be approved by WHO or any other regulatory bodies.
If you look at the rate at which the US / west are currently distributing vaccines to poorer countries, basically a trickle and you consider the fact that their vaccines mostly need to be transported using expensive cold storage equipment, basically China, Russia are saving the world from Covid. Chinese vaccines are cheaper, China is actually able and willing to distribute them in meaningful numbers to the developing world and Chinese vaccines can be more or less transported and stored without super expensive freezer equipment
However because of corporate greed or sheer arrogance, even though the Chinese vaccines have been approved by the WHO, countries like France will not accept visitors who have received any non western vaccine as being a vaccinated person. They basically force them to quarantine or take a western varaint like Pfizer or Moderna. This is some kind of Covid apartheid, politicizing medicine is pretty repulsive.
If you look at the rate at which the US / west are currently distributing vaccines to poorer countries, basically a trickle and you consider the fact that their vaccines mostly need to be transported using expensive cold storage equipment, basically China, Russia are saving the world from Covid. Chinese vaccines are cheaper, China is actually able and willing to distribute them in meaningful numbers to the developing world and Chinese vaccines can be more or less transported and stored without super expensive freezer equipment
However because of corporate greed or sheer arrogance, even though the Chinese vaccines have been approved by the WHO, countries like France will not accept visitors who have received any non western vaccine as being a vaccinated person. They basically force them to quarantine or take a western varaint like Pfizer or Moderna. This is some kind of Covid apartheid, politicizing medicine is pretty repulsive.
well t was what the poster said and for 2 min I was baffled what sort if effectiveness chart is it as I don't knew anything about stock market until I noticed those abbreviation
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Dr. Amir Ashrafi, Sydney-based Iranian researcher, expounds on:
- US-based scammers selling MS treatments to patients in Iran after advertizing their products on satellite TV and the internet, and falsely marketing synthetically treated plant extracts or synthetic vitamins as "stem cell treatments".
- How natural herbal therapies are useful against MS (rather than medicine made of plant extracts and chemical additives, sold at far higher cost by pharmaceutical companies).
- How organic, traditional stem cell therapies are being deliberately ignored by the pharmaceutical industry, busy as it is developing overpriced stem cell drugs in order to maximize profits.
- The serious health risks stemming from the industrially-produced food which people are made to consume, including any of the flour in worldwide use to bake bread and produce pasta (which is GMO-contaminated, refined and sprinkled with artificially synthetized chemical vitamins and minerals).
- Why even industrially grown fruits and vegetables, let alone processed foods, as well as synthetic vitamins and minerals are harmful to humans.
- What a healthier diet might look like in this day and age.
- The acute and very serious dangers of gigahertz-band mobile phone and Wifi radio waves, in particular of the 5G standard (never place a mobile phone on your ear to communicate, nor in closer contact to your body when it is turned on; turn off your wireless modem when you don't need it and/or when you sleep).
- The problematic nature of vaccines (especially for children and embryos), including COVID-19 vaccination.
- How the COVID crisis is instrumentalized by the globalist oligarchy to bring about necessary systemic changes (the "great reset") indispensable to prolonging their oppressive domination.
- US-based scammers selling MS treatments to patients in Iran after advertizing their products on satellite TV and the internet, and falsely marketing synthetically treated plant extracts or synthetic vitamins as "stem cell treatments".
- How natural herbal therapies are useful against MS (rather than medicine made of plant extracts and chemical additives, sold at far higher cost by pharmaceutical companies).
- How organic, traditional stem cell therapies are being deliberately ignored by the pharmaceutical industry, busy as it is developing overpriced stem cell drugs in order to maximize profits.
- The serious health risks stemming from the industrially-produced food which people are made to consume, including any of the flour in worldwide use to bake bread and produce pasta (which is GMO-contaminated, refined and sprinkled with artificially synthetized chemical vitamins and minerals).
- Why even industrially grown fruits and vegetables, let alone processed foods, as well as synthetic vitamins and minerals are harmful to humans.
- What a healthier diet might look like in this day and age.
- The acute and very serious dangers of gigahertz-band mobile phone and Wifi radio waves, in particular of the 5G standard (never place a mobile phone on your ear to communicate, nor in closer contact to your body when it is turned on; turn off your wireless modem when you don't need it and/or when you sleep).
- The problematic nature of vaccines (especially for children and embryos), including COVID-19 vaccination.
- How the COVID crisis is instrumentalized by the globalist oligarchy to bring about necessary systemic changes (the "great reset") indispensable to prolonging their oppressive domination.
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Alireza Zakani and Said Jalili drop out of the presidential race in favor of Ebrahim Raisi, while Said Mohammad calls on his supporters to vote for Raisi!
That's pretty much it, gentlemen. Liberals can say goodbye to being in charge of the country's executive power for the next 4 to 8 years at least. Nice discipline and solidarity shown by the revolutionary camp this time around, as another potential obstacle to the election of a revolutionary president (i.e. the multitude of candidates of that orientation) has been lifted. Looking forward to congratulating hajj Raisi on his win in a mere 24 to 48 hours from now!
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On a related note: Canada's notion of "democracy" on display, as the zionist-dominated regime of Ottawa decides to bar Iranian residents from casting their votes!
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That's pretty much it, gentlemen. Liberals can say goodbye to being in charge of the country's executive power for the next 4 to 8 years at least. Nice discipline and solidarity shown by the revolutionary camp this time around, as another potential obstacle to the election of a revolutionary president (i.e. the multitude of candidates of that orientation) has been lifted. Looking forward to congratulating hajj Raisi on his win in a mere 24 to 48 hours from now!
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Jalili withdraws presidential bid in favor of Raeisi
TEHRAN, Jun. 16 (MNA) – Saeed Jalali has announced his resignation from running in the Friday presidential election in favor of Principalist candidate Ebrahim Raeisi.
Two hopefuls drop out of Iran presidential race: Update | Latest Market News
Mohsen Mehralizadeh, the only reformist candidate approved to participate in this week's Iranian presidential election, has withdrawn from the race leaving former central bank governor Abdolnaser Hemmati as the sole non-conservative on the ballot.
On a related note: Canada's notion of "democracy" on display, as the zionist-dominated regime of Ottawa decides to bar Iranian residents from casting their votes!
Official Raps Canada’s Refusal to Allow for Iran Presidential Voting on Its Soil - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – An Iranian official lashed out at the Canadian government for its “illegal” move to refuse to cooperate with Tehran in opening the way for Iranians residing in the North American country to cast their ballots in the upcoming presidential election.
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That's just a given by Canada and all these western countries. They don't even consider visitors to their countries vaccinated unless they take a western vaccine varaint (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, etc)
They claim China is committing genocide on its soil when the remains of 215 indigenous school children were found in a mass grave on a property that was a former residential school in western Canada.
There are probably thousands of such grave sites in countries like Canada, Australia, USA, New Zealand. It's funny how they want to lecture the world about morality and genocide.
They claim China is committing genocide on its soil when the remains of 215 indigenous school children were found in a mass grave on a property that was a former residential school in western Canada.
There are probably thousands of such grave sites in countries like Canada, Australia, USA, New Zealand. It's funny how they want to lecture the world about morality and genocide.
Alireza Zakani and Said Jalili drop out of the presidential race in favor of Ebrahim Raisi, while Said Mohammad calls on his supporters to vote for Raisi!
That's pretty much it, gentlemen. Liberals can say goodbye to being in charge of the country's executive power for the next 4 to 8 years at least. Nice discipline and solidarity shown by the revolutionary camp this time around, as another potential obstacle to the election of a revolutionary president (i.e. the multitude of candidates of that orientation) has been lifted. Looking forward to congratulating hajj Raisi on his win in a mere 24 to 48 hours from now!
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سعÛد ÙØÙد Ú¯Ùت: ساخت Û´ ÙÛÙÛÙÙ ÙاØد ÙسکÙÙÛ Ø´Ø¯ÙÛ Ø§Ø³Øª. اÛ٠را بÙد٠ÙÛâÚ¯ÙÛ٠ک٠ابر پرÙÚÙâÙا را اجرا کردÙâا٠٠با ÙاطعÛت ÙÛâÚ¯ÙÛ٠ساخت ÛÚ© ÙÛÙÛÙÙ ÙاØد Ùسک٠در سا٠غÛرÙÙÚ©Ù ÙÛست. در ÙراخÙا٠ÙرÛب Ùرد٠را ب٠بÙرس دعÙت Ù...
Jalili withdraws presidential bid in favor of Raeisi
TEHRAN, Jun. 16 (MNA) – Saeed Jalali has announced his resignation from running in the Friday presidential election in favor of Principalist candidate Ebrahim Raeisi.
Two hopefuls drop out of Iran presidential race: Update | Latest Market News
Mohsen Mehralizadeh, the only reformist candidate approved to participate in this week's Iranian presidential election, has withdrawn from the race leaving former central bank governor Abdolnaser Hemmati as the sole non-conservative on the ballot.
On a related note: Canada's notion of "democracy" on display, as the zionist-dominated regime of Ottawa decides to bar Iranian residents from casting their votes!
Official Raps Canada’s Refusal to Allow for Iran Presidential Voting on Its Soil - Politics news - Tasnim News Agency
TEHRAN (Tasnim) – An Iranian official lashed out at the Canadian government for its “illegal” move to refuse to cooperate with Tehran in opening the way for Iranians residing in the North American country to cast their ballots in the upcoming presidential election.
I thought the Saudis and Houthis were going to work out a peace deal ? I don't think this war is going to go anywhere and it has already been more than 6 years. I still remember when the Saudis were saying 6 weeks.
The Houthis announce targeting the Saudi Abha airport with two drones, and the coalition confirms the response to the attack
Americans made a wrong turn in Northern Syria 3 days ago. The Syrian civilians chased them away. Yallah. LOL
The Houthis announce targeting the Saudi Abha airport with two drones, and the coalition confirms the response to the attack
Americans made a wrong turn in Northern Syria 3 days ago. The Syrian civilians chased them away. Yallah. LOL
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Given that Draco was kind of criticized for his use of the term "Great Reset", let me simply inform everyone that this is not a theory imagined by an individual forumer - it is the actual name under which the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) was held in June 2020.
Great Reset - Wikipedia
The Wikipedia entry reads: "It brought together high-profile business and political leaders, convened by Charles, Prince of Wales and the WEF, with the theme of rebuilding society and the economy in a sustainable way following the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]"
I will soon share an interesting paper on the topic. For now however I will need to post my 667th comment as quickly as possible.
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Well, I generally agree with this. But when it comes to Iran, do not be misled by the edifice: I conducted some research, found out who the architect was and it turns out that the design predates the 1979 Islamic Revolution, i.e. it was sketched under the regime of the shah. I believe that revolutionary authorities didn't realize when they took over the old plan (various infrastructural projects designed or started under the Pahlavis were adopted or continued as is).
Question however is if and to what extent the western-apologetic liberal camp has been infiltrated by these elements. Only the revolutionary forces loyal to the ideological principles of Imam Khomeini can contain the liberals and prevent them from implementing their so-called "normalization" program (read: streamlining with the global powers-to-be).
Now if I may, please do not take this personally as my intentions are non-accusatory, but given the position you expressed on these topics, why choose a depiction of a left-side eye featuring a rainbow-colored iris as your profile picture (surely you are not unaware of the symbolics "they" like to associate with the single eye, particularly the left eye, as well as with rainbow colors)?
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So the cremation centers in India, which are reporting a 10 fold increase in the number of deaths, the hospitals shutting their doors, people lining up for hours for oxygen. None of this is because of Covid ?
I don't understand how people can't do simple math. You have a highly contagious disease that spread like wildfire easily through society, highly transmissible and constantly mutating into new variants.
Even if only 1% die from Covid-19, literally without any precautions in place, basically most people will end up getting it. 1 percent of an entire countries population is a staggering number for the healthcare system to deal with.
Also what about if it ends up being 2% or 3% fatality rates like in Iran ? Then what do you do ? In Israel, a country with a small population, which receives billions in charity from the USA, their entire population is more or less vaccinated and they have basically no cases or issues.
In India, they don't have enough vaccines and they held mass gatherings and festivals like there was no tomorrow and we see the end result. Why is it that some people in this day and age simply want to doubt anything and everything ? or label everything as being part of a grander conspiracy theory ?
I don't understand how people can't do simple math. You have a highly contagious disease that spread like wildfire easily through society, highly transmissible and constantly mutating into new variants.
Even if only 1% die from Covid-19, literally without any precautions in place, basically most people will end up getting it. 1 percent of an entire countries population is a staggering number for the healthcare system to deal with.
Also what about if it ends up being 2% or 3% fatality rates like in Iran ? Then what do you do ? In Israel, a country with a small population, which receives billions in charity from the USA, their entire population is more or less vaccinated and they have basically no cases or issues.
In India, they don't have enough vaccines and they held mass gatherings and festivals like there was no tomorrow and we see the end result. Why is it that some people in this day and age simply want to doubt anything and everything ? or label everything as being part of a grander conspiracy theory ?
Given that Draco was kind of criticized for his use of the term "Great Reset", let me simply inform everyone that this is not a theory imagined by an individual forumer - it is the actual name under which the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF) was held in June 2020.
Great Reset - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
The Wikipedia entry reads: "It brought together high-profile business and political leaders, convened by Charles, Prince of Wales and the WEF, with the theme of rebuilding society and the economy in a sustainable way following the COVID-19 pandemic.[1]"
I will soon share an interesting paper on the topic. For now however I will need to post my 667th comment as quickly as possible.
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Well, I generally agree with this. But when it comes to Iran, do not be misled by the edifice: I conducted some research, found out who the architect was and it turns out that the design predates the 1979 Islamic Revolution, i.e. it was sketched under the regime of the shah. I believe that revolutionary authorities didn't realize when they took over the old plan (various infrastructural projects designed or started under the Pahlavis were adopted or continued as is).
Question however is if and to what extent the western-apologetic liberal camp has been infiltrated by these elements. Only the revolutionary forces loyal to the ideological principles of Imam Khomeini can contain the liberals and prevent them from implementing their so-called "normalization" program (read: streamlining with the global powers-to-be).
Now if I may, please do not take this personally as my intentions are non-accusatory, but considering your position on these questions, why choose a depiction of a left-hand eye featuring a rainbow-colored iris as your profile picture (surely you are not unaware of the symbolics "they" like to associate with the single eye, particularly the left eye, as well as with the rainbow colors)?
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Read my post more carefully please: I only focused on the term "Great Reset", which indeed was not imagined by user Draco but coined by the globalist oligarchy at the WEE.
Now I'm not sure about claims that COVID-19 is a fake virus, either inexistent or totally harmless. In fact I would tend to believe it does represent a public health issue and is pretty much real. However, I also see how regimes in league with the globalist oligarchy have been deliberately and methodically whipping up a social psychosis around this problem, and how they have been using it as a tool for social control.
Likewise, certain bizarre facts and events do hold my attention. Such as:
- A meeting held by the Trump regime circa one year prior to the outbreak of the pandemic, in order to set aside funds for a possible fight against a coronavirus (verbatim) epidemy (if you post a video about this on YouTube, it will promptly get removed, at least it was in Parvin Zamany's case).
- Jacques Attali's explicit statement only a couple of years ago in one of his publications that "perhaps it will be a pandemic which will allow us to take the necessary steps toward global governance" (I'm paraphrasing), a statement reminiscent of Donald Rumsfeld's "we will need another Pearl Harbor to implement the PNAC" (paraphrasing) pronounced shortly before 9-11. Attali is happens to be a major globalist and zionist agent, adviser to most French presidents since Mitterrand, irregardless of their political affiliation.
When I take into account and try to explore possible interactions and causal links between the multitude of relevant factors - including the probability that the global, US- and dollar-centric financial capitalist system had been faced with fatal structural hazards and reached a point of no return prior to the pandemic (the 2008 banking crisis and the subsequent recession were a mere walk through the park in comparison to what would quite inevitably come next sooner or later), forecasts and roadmaps discussed at Davos or similar forums, the machinations of industrial corporations and financial institutions, the signals emitted by masonic lodges and individuals linked to them, the general and more specific directions taken by social, cultural, economic and foreign policies of the US and its western allies in recent years, the discourse of the oligarchy and so on, I cannot help but suspect that this COVID-19 affair is either a tremendously welcome and opportune coincidence for the powers to be, or that there's something fishy about it.
Not in the sense that it's not a real disease, but in the sense that it is a virus indeed, certainly problematic for public health, but possibly concocted in a synthetic manner and spread by those same powers-to-be as a means to legitimize the radical steps they will soon be taking - and have already begun taking, in terms of ever increasing subjugation and de facto enslavement of nations and peoples, via a thorough restructuring of their system of dominance and exploitation.
I've heard medical professionals, in fact scientific researchers who do appear more or less trustworthy to me, state that the category of viruses COVID-19 belongs to, does not normally yield ever more dangerous and infectious mutations, that this is unheard of. I do examine the major dissident voices in this area, by which I'm not referring to some random unqualified internet trolls, but internationally renown and experienced experts in virology for instance, such as the Frenchman Didier Raoult. Between the interpretations of individuals like these and the official narrative promoted by regimes and entities (including the corporate pharmaceutical industry) whom I know to be power hungry, manipulating, unscrupulous, cynical and quite frequently lying oppressors, I am not really in a position to discern who speaks truth, for medical sciences aren't my professional area of competence. Also, I'm well aware of how dissidents can in fact be controlled oppositionists put in place by ruling elites, or simply narcissistic or attention-seeking opportunists and charlatans in certain cases.
I can however use my common sense, as well as what I do actually master, which is social and political analysis, to arrive at the conclusion that a healthy degree of skepticism here might be in order, and that we shouldn't be lowering our guard.
But have some patience until I share a few papers on the subject (some of which will require time-consuming, partial translation work). While their authors might be mistaken after all, they represent anything but the cheap rantings of some poorly informed, irrational fools, but are on the contrary highly thought provoking, at least to me.
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4 Times the US Threatened to Stage an Attack and Blame it on Iran
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1) PATRICK CLAWSON ON “CRISIS INITIATION”
CLAWSON: I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough and it’s very hard for me to see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran. Which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming, that the traditional way of America gets to war is what would be best for US interests.
Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into World War II. As David mentioned, you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War I. You may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnam. You may recall they had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the USS Maine exploded. And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the federal army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing would the South Carolinians had said would cause an attack.
So if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.
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I would just like to suggest that one can combine other means of pressure with
sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean, look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down. Someday one of them might not come up. Who would know why? We can do a variety of things if we wish to increase the pressure. I’m not advocating that, but I’m just suggesting that this is not an either-or proposition of, you know, it’s just sanctions has to succeed or other things. We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.
SOURCE: Patrick Clawson Responds to Questions, Full Video – 9/21/2012
2) ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI WARNS OF “A TERRORIST ACT BLAMED ON IRAN”
BRZEZINSKI: A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the bench marks followed by accusations of the Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the United States blamed on Iran culminating in a “defensive” US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
SOURCE: Zbigniew Brzezinski The Senate Foreign Relations Committee
3) GARY HART WARNS IRAN ABOUT “ANOTHER GULF OF TONKIN”
WE ARE CHANGE: Yes, you recently wrote a letter to the President of Iran in which you urge them to study the gulf of tonkin incident which we now know is a staged event used to justify war in Vietnam andyou also raise the question “Does America provoke provocations?” Sir, was this not an . . I have the letter right here sir if you want to read it I have it on me right here Oh sir I mean that’s mainstream media has been published in many publications do you deny writing that letter sir you say I can read it to you right now okay you said on presuming that you are not actually ignorant enough to desire war with the United States you might you might be well advised to read the history of the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1998 and the history of the gulf of gulf of tonkin
HART: I’m sorry that was a blog or nothing to most I did not literally write a letter it was a mock letter read failed in doublespeak that the United States could stage an event to go to war with Iran no no then well what I was come in cheek saying was that we have an administration in Washington that is dying for a reason to bomb Iran and so in a mock blog letter to the Iranian government not the president of the Iranian government I just simply said if unless you people want to be bombed you better be careful about cross border incursions and I think I explicitly said keep the Republican Guard and revolutionary whatever it’s called away from the Iraqi border I was trying to communicate to the American people what our own government was trying to plan and that was to find a reason for bombing Iran and I was simply saying in effect to the American people through this mock letter be very careful about this administration creating a USS Maine incident or a Gulf of Tonkin incident that would justify popping around that’s all
SOURCE: Gary Hart WARNING – WeAreChange
4) SEYMOUR HERSH: CHENEY’S PLAN TO STAGE AN INCIDENT
FAIZ SHAKIR: There’s a bit at the end of this latest article that you wrote that I found actually most interesting. And the article hasn’t got that much attention but I want to get your take on this. And this relates to a stray or an incident that happened a couple months ago. Many of you remember. It was in the Strait of Hormuz. There was an incident where an American carrier almost blew a couple of Iranian speedboats out of the water and perhaps would have started the next war against Iran or potentially a World War III. And it was averted, thankfully, at the last second. We later learned that there was really nothing to be terribly concerned about—the incident was overblown—and that there was a vice admiral in charge of the fleet in the Strait of Hormuz who said basically there was no concern there. That it was overblown.
HERSH: But yeah, the second part basically. He was concerned but they were never a threat.
SHAKIR: They were never a threat. And you talked about—this his name is Kevin cosgrove and in article you write:
Nonetheless, Cosgriff’s demeanor angered Cheney, according to the former senior intelligence official. But a lesson was learned in the incident: The public had supported the idea of retaliation, and was even asking why the US didn’t do more. The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. “The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,” he said.
What you’re writing there is that Cheney—there was a meeting in the White House where Cheney presided over looking to cook up the next war. A false war based on false intelligence.
HERSH: My oldest son is a lawyer and when I sent him this story before it was published—basically in a final form, just a day—and he he wrote back and he said “You really buried the lead in this one,” about casus belli. Um, how many press are here?
Anyway, there was a meeting. Among the items among the items considered and rejected—which is why The New Yorker did not publish it, on grounds that it wasn’t accepted—one of the items was why not . . . There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger war. The one that interested me the most was: Why don’t we build in our shipyard—build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats, put navy seals on them with a lot of arms and the next time what about those goes through the Straits of Hormuz start a shoot up. Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. But that’s the kind of that’s the level of stuff we were talking about: provocation.
But that was rejected so I could understand the argument of not writing something that was rejected. Maybe. I, basically—my attitude always towards editors is they’re mice training to be rats. But the point is jejune, if you know what that means. Silly, maybe, but potentially very lethal. Because one of the things they learned in the incident was the American public—if you get the right incident, the American public will support, you know, bang bang kiss kiss. You know, we’re into it.
SOURCE Dick Cheney’s false flag attack idea to start the war with Iran
MIKE POMPEO: But in terms of how you think about problem sets, I – when I was a cadet, what’s the first – what’s the cadet motto at West Point? You will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. (Laughter.) It’s – it was like – we had entire training courses. (Applause.)
SOURCE: Secretary Pompeo Participates in Q&A Discussion at Texas A&M University
POMPEO: Good afternoon. It is the assessment of the United States Government that the Islamic Republic of Iran is responsible for the attacks that occurred in the Gulf of Oman today. This assessment is based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation, recent similar Iranian attacks on shipping, and the fact that no proxy group operating in the area has the resources and proficiency to act with such a high degree of sophistication.
SOURCE: Secretary Pompeo Delivers Remarks to the Media
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1) PATRICK CLAWSON ON “CRISIS INITIATION”
CLAWSON: I frankly think that crisis initiation is really tough and it’s very hard for me to see how the United States president can get us to war with Iran. Which leads me to conclude that if in fact compromise is not coming, that the traditional way of America gets to war is what would be best for US interests.
Some people might think that Mr. Roosevelt wanted to get us into World War II. As David mentioned, you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor. Some people might think Mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War I. You may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episode. Some people might think that Mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnam. You may recall they had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episode. We didn’t go to war with Spain until the USS Maine exploded. And may I point out that Mr. Lincoln did not feel he could call out the federal army until Fort Sumter was attacked, which is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter to do exactly that thing would the South Carolinians had said would cause an attack.
So if in fact the Iranians aren’t going to compromise, it would be best if somebody else started the war.
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I would just like to suggest that one can combine other means of pressure with
sanctions. I mentioned that explosion on August 17th. We could step up the pressure. I mean, look people, Iranian submarines periodically go down. Someday one of them might not come up. Who would know why? We can do a variety of things if we wish to increase the pressure. I’m not advocating that, but I’m just suggesting that this is not an either-or proposition of, you know, it’s just sanctions has to succeed or other things. We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that.
SOURCE: Patrick Clawson Responds to Questions, Full Video – 9/21/2012
2) ZBIGNIEW BRZEZINSKI WARNS OF “A TERRORIST ACT BLAMED ON IRAN”
BRZEZINSKI: A plausible scenario for a military collision with Iran involves Iraqi failure to meet the bench marks followed by accusations of the Iranian responsibility for the failure, then by some provocation in Iraq or a terrorist act in the United States blamed on Iran culminating in a “defensive” US military action against Iran that plunges a lonely America into a spreading and deepening quagmire eventually ranging across Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
SOURCE: Zbigniew Brzezinski The Senate Foreign Relations Committee
3) GARY HART WARNS IRAN ABOUT “ANOTHER GULF OF TONKIN”
WE ARE CHANGE: Yes, you recently wrote a letter to the President of Iran in which you urge them to study the gulf of tonkin incident which we now know is a staged event used to justify war in Vietnam andyou also raise the question “Does America provoke provocations?” Sir, was this not an . . I have the letter right here sir if you want to read it I have it on me right here Oh sir I mean that’s mainstream media has been published in many publications do you deny writing that letter sir you say I can read it to you right now okay you said on presuming that you are not actually ignorant enough to desire war with the United States you might you might be well advised to read the history of the sinking of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1998 and the history of the gulf of gulf of tonkin
HART: I’m sorry that was a blog or nothing to most I did not literally write a letter it was a mock letter read failed in doublespeak that the United States could stage an event to go to war with Iran no no then well what I was come in cheek saying was that we have an administration in Washington that is dying for a reason to bomb Iran and so in a mock blog letter to the Iranian government not the president of the Iranian government I just simply said if unless you people want to be bombed you better be careful about cross border incursions and I think I explicitly said keep the Republican Guard and revolutionary whatever it’s called away from the Iraqi border I was trying to communicate to the American people what our own government was trying to plan and that was to find a reason for bombing Iran and I was simply saying in effect to the American people through this mock letter be very careful about this administration creating a USS Maine incident or a Gulf of Tonkin incident that would justify popping around that’s all
SOURCE: Gary Hart WARNING – WeAreChange
4) SEYMOUR HERSH: CHENEY’S PLAN TO STAGE AN INCIDENT
FAIZ SHAKIR: There’s a bit at the end of this latest article that you wrote that I found actually most interesting. And the article hasn’t got that much attention but I want to get your take on this. And this relates to a stray or an incident that happened a couple months ago. Many of you remember. It was in the Strait of Hormuz. There was an incident where an American carrier almost blew a couple of Iranian speedboats out of the water and perhaps would have started the next war against Iran or potentially a World War III. And it was averted, thankfully, at the last second. We later learned that there was really nothing to be terribly concerned about—the incident was overblown—and that there was a vice admiral in charge of the fleet in the Strait of Hormuz who said basically there was no concern there. That it was overblown.
HERSH: But yeah, the second part basically. He was concerned but they were never a threat.
SHAKIR: They were never a threat. And you talked about—this his name is Kevin cosgrove and in article you write:
Nonetheless, Cosgriff’s demeanor angered Cheney, according to the former senior intelligence official. But a lesson was learned in the incident: The public had supported the idea of retaliation, and was even asking why the US didn’t do more. The former official said that, a few weeks later, a meeting took place in the Vice-President’s office. “The subject was how to create a casus belli between Tehran and Washington,” he said.
What you’re writing there is that Cheney—there was a meeting in the White House where Cheney presided over looking to cook up the next war. A false war based on false intelligence.
HERSH: My oldest son is a lawyer and when I sent him this story before it was published—basically in a final form, just a day—and he he wrote back and he said “You really buried the lead in this one,” about casus belli. Um, how many press are here?
Anyway, there was a meeting. Among the items among the items considered and rejected—which is why The New Yorker did not publish it, on grounds that it wasn’t accepted—one of the items was why not . . . There was a dozen ideas proffered about how to trigger war. The one that interested me the most was: Why don’t we build in our shipyard—build four or five boats that look like Iranian PT boats, put navy seals on them with a lot of arms and the next time what about those goes through the Straits of Hormuz start a shoot up. Might cost some lives. And it was rejected because you can’t have Americans killing Americans. But that’s the kind of that’s the level of stuff we were talking about: provocation.
But that was rejected so I could understand the argument of not writing something that was rejected. Maybe. I, basically—my attitude always towards editors is they’re mice training to be rats. But the point is jejune, if you know what that means. Silly, maybe, but potentially very lethal. Because one of the things they learned in the incident was the American public—if you get the right incident, the American public will support, you know, bang bang kiss kiss. You know, we’re into it.
SOURCE Dick Cheney’s false flag attack idea to start the war with Iran
MIKE POMPEO: But in terms of how you think about problem sets, I – when I was a cadet, what’s the first – what’s the cadet motto at West Point? You will not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do. I was the CIA director. We lied, we cheated, we stole. (Laughter.) It’s – it was like – we had entire training courses. (Applause.)
SOURCE: Secretary Pompeo Participates in Q&A Discussion at Texas A&M University
POMPEO: Good afternoon. It is the assessment of the United States Government that the Islamic Republic of Iran is responsible for the attacks that occurred in the Gulf of Oman today. This assessment is based on intelligence, the weapons used, the level of expertise needed to execute the operation, recent similar Iranian attacks on shipping, and the fact that no proxy group operating in the area has the resources and proficiency to act with such a high degree of sophistication.
SOURCE: Secretary Pompeo Delivers Remarks to the Media
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Candidates election results only tomorrow.
But the real results are not who gets elected , which seem predetermined. But the turnout. How many people would bother to vote at all.
State-linked Iranian Student Polling Agency , has estimated turnout will be around 40%.
Just for comparison , in the 2009 protest elections , 85% voted.
Apathy greets Iran presidential vote dominated by hard-liner
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Candidates election results only tomorrow.
But the real results are not who gets elected , which seem predetermined. But the turnout. How many people would bother to vote at all.
State-linked Iranian Student Polling Agency , has estimated turnout will be around 40%.
Just for comparison , in the 2009 protest elections , 85% voted.
Apathy greets Iran presidential vote dominated by hard-liner
Apathy greets Iran presidential vote dominated by hard-liner
Iranians have voted in a presidential election dominated by Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s hard-line protege after the disqualification of his strongest competition.
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