Iranian Chill Thread

[Bahram Esfandiari]

This is supposed to be a 'chill' thread, yet all I see are Iranis crying their eyes out or stomping around in anger.

Just a couple of weeks ago these same people were celebrating scratching an Israelis owned civilian ship, claiming they had restored deterrence.

My advice to you, is to get back into your borders and stop having regional ambitions of hegemony. All you need to do is concentrate on Iran, developing Iran, fixing the mess in Iran. You don't need to concern yourself with Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, Yemen, Saudi, Bahrain etc. Stay in your own patch or things are going to get much worse for you.

So Trench Foot wants Iran to be a little subservient little bitch like his Morrocco? Sorry not gonna happen!
Iran will take this on the chin and any thing else your Zionist masters have to throw at her and she will still stand upright and rightfully resist. Iran has been here for 2500 years and we are not planning on going anywhere and we will make sure that this Modern day Israel will be nothing more than a flash in a pan of history just like biblical Israel!

 

[yavar]

They have embedded themselves deep within Iran's nuclear program

wrong

they are not in Iran nuclear program,

the plan attack and run with their operatives
and then IAEA instactores come and do damage assessment and usually ask for technical document of infrastructure site,

so they are not in nuclear program

2) the learning curve will make Iran more resilient in the future.

the problem is not learning
the problem is the management,
until we have Dr Salehi as nuclear chief we are open to sabotage

 

[Trench Broom]

So Trench Foot wants Iran to be a little subservient little bitch like his Morrocco? Sorry not gonna happen!
Iran will take this on the chin and any thing else your Zionist masters have to throw at her and she will still stand upright and rightfully resist. Iran has been here for 2500 years and we are not planning on going anywhere and we will make sure that this Modern day Israel will be nothing more than a flash in a pan of history just like biblical Israel!

We want Iran to be within its borders and stop murdering people in the region.

Morocco is a respected country while Iran is an international pariah entity.

You will face many more calamities and humiliations in the coming week and months

wrong

they are not in Iran nuclear program,

the plan attack and run with their operatives
and then IAEA instactores come and do damage assessment and usually ask for technical document of infrastructure site,

so they are not in nuclear program

the problem is not learning
the problem is the management,
until we have Dr Salehi as nuclear chief we are open to sabotage

MOSSAD is in every city, in every town and in every facility in Iran.

 

[aryobarzan]

Israel 3--Iran 0..

You should always give credit even to your enemy as much as it hurts.

Now:
while we are all in pain we should not forget to analyise what is happening and find out the the solution..

1- Why Natanz twice and not Fordo (Fordo is much more critical!).
2- How was it done
3- Is it hard to stop plant and personnel from sabotage in any country.

Do not have much info so I have to speculate
1- Was the power plant above ground...if yes..there is something that prevents the infiltrators to reach underground (may be additional security checks!! detectors!!). First Sabotage was also above ground building.

2- How was it done...If you ask me "rigged" electrical Transforms present in any industrial building, substations or power plants. These transformers are "bombs" even in normal applications if their safety systems are tampered with... (full of oil and plenty of space to hide a remote controlled bomb or short circuit inducing device)..if you have been in a storm you can see the small one sometimes explode on the posts...choice of time indicates the device was already installed by some electrician long before...look for an electricians on the run..

3- protecting few plants and few key people is not rocket science...Head of security in Nataz and head of security for IAO is either incompetent or a spy...in either case you need a more intelligent guy who can predict the next move rather that wait for it to happen then try to catch.

Fordo is still running and it must be protected at all costs..that will be next target....not to forget UFC plant in Isfahan ..they are going after what feeds the centrifuges..because they can not get to the machines already running.

 

[Blue In Green]

wrong

they are not in Iran nuclear program,

the plan attack and run with their operatives
and then IAEA instactores come and do damage assessment and usually ask for technical document of infrastructure site,

so they are not in nuclear program

the problem is not learning
the problem is the management,
until we have Dr Salehi as nuclear chief we are open to sabotage

How is it then that the Israelis have such deep knowledge and seemingly endless access to every aspect of Iran's nuclear program, specifically the Natanz area? You mean to tell me that these operatives are just waltzing in there and doing their job then leaving without a trace, or is there something else going on?

I'm just utterly confused and obviously befuddled as to how SO MANY lapses in critical security measures keeps happening, over and over and over and over and over... It's as if Iran doesn't have or even care about internal security regarding valuable national assets.

 

[yavar]

How is it then that the Israelis have such deep knowledge and seemingly endless access to every aspect of Iran's nuclear program,n?

additional protocol

for your info: IAEA aleady ask for Natanz site and sub support site document to be submitted. ( which we havent doe so far)

guess what under additional protocol they can go to the site with cameras and take picture and videos,
they ( inspactores) even cone up with tape measure

 

[Blue In Green]

additional protocol

for you info IAEA ask for Natanz site and sub support site document to be submitted. ( which we havent doe so far.

guess what under additional protocol they can go to the site with cameras and take picture and videos

So then the additional protocols enacted through the implementation of the JCPOA (BARJAM) has allowed for Israel to get into areas of Iran's nuclear program they couldn't before?

 

[Arian]

So then the additional protocols enacted through the implementation of the JCPOA (BARJAM) has allowed for Israel to get into areas of Iran's nuclear program they couldn't before?

Yes, but it's not only that. The government obviously has a soft spot for the Western countries and refuses to engage in reactionary moves that can potentially ruin the JCPOA. They see the nuclear agreement as their legacy. A legacy of treason to be honest. I personally blame Khamenei for all this too. He is as responsible as Rouhani for all this mess.

They have had enough opportunities to reduce IAEA inspections or at least establish a hard set of rules for allowing IAEA inspectors inside the country. They have missed all those chances. There's no doubt that the IAEA is providing Western intelligence agencies with confidential information. It is public knowledge. Even Russia has said before that Iran's nuclear secrets should not be shared with the media. They are overtly sharing Iran's nuclear secrets with Western media and intelligence agencies, even before IAEA reports are circulated among the members, and they don't even try to prevent it from happening again.

All we can do now is to wait for the Rouhani administration to end. Hopefully, the new administration will take a tough stance against the IAEA and the West. We need a modified version of Ahmadinejad back in power. Someone that has a clear anti-West stance like Ahmadinejad, or like Erdogan. We need to violate the JCPOA like Ahmadinejad did to the E3 agreement in 2005. Even if the Biden administration decides to lift sanctions on Iran and returns Iran's blocked money, the next administration should violate the JCPOA as much as possible under the pretext of different excuses.

 

[yavar]

So then the additional protocols enacted through the implementation of the JCPOA

No JCPOA has got nothing to do additional protocol,
additional protocol which we have Never signed or joined and never going to do, was adapted as voluntary measure as trust building good will,
remember the Parliament only allows it as voluntary,


which should of been stop as Parliament passed resolution .

but the government legally .........

IAEA and Iran strike three-month deal over nuclear inspections


so it is all about presidential election

 

[Arian]

No JCPOA has got nothing to do additional protocol,
additional protocol which we have Never signed or joined and never going to do, was adapted as voluntary measure as trust building good will,
remember the Parliament only allows it as voluntary,


which should of been stop as Parliament passed resolution .

but the government legally .........
IAEA and Iran strike three-month deal over nuclear inspections


so it is all about presidential election

Executing the Additional Protocol is part of the JCPOA. (Section C, Article 13):
Consistent with the respective roles of the President and Majlis (Parliament), Iran will provisionally apply the Additional Protocol to its Comprehensive Safeguards Agreement in accordance with Article 17(b) of the Additional Protocol, proceed with its ratification within the timeframe as detailed in Annex V and fully implement the modified Code 3.1 of the Subsidiary Arrangements to its Safeguards Agreement.

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf

 

[Dariush the Great]

So then the additional protocols enacted through the implementation of the JCPOA (BARJAM) has allowed for Israel to get into areas of Iran's nuclear program they couldn't before?

Forget these excuses about additional protocols. It is all smoke and mirrors. As if without the additional protocols Israel has no infiltration going at all. These are all games the incompetent conservatives and reformists are playing to fool the masses.The point here is that the office of the supreme leader (beyte rahbari) IRGC, IRGC intel, government intelligence ministry, police, security forces etc are all infiltrated by the enemy. We can go back and forth but the ultimate responsibility lies with the commander-in-chief and we know who he is.

Btw, i fully expect these attacks to continue. The mullah's have no idea what to do and this ''long game'' they are talking about simply does not exist, just a bargaining chip.

 

[Blue In Green]

Forget these excuses about additional protocols. It is all smoke and mirrors. As if without the additional protocols Israel has no infiltration going at all. These are all games the incompetent conservatives and reformists are playing to fool the masses.The point here is that the office of the supreme leader (beyte rahbari) IRGC, IRGC intel, government intelligence ministry, police, security forces etc are all infiltrated by the enemy. We can go back and forth but the ultimate responsibility lies with the commander-in-chief and we know who he is.

Btw, i fully expect these attacks to continue. The mullah's have no idea what to do and this ''long game'' they are talking about simply does not exist, just a bargaining chip.

I guess so man lol

 

[yavar]

Executing the Additional Protocol is part of the JCPOA. (Section C, Article 13)

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf

voluntary commitments,

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf

 

[Arian]

voluntary commitments,

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/122460/full-text-of-the-iran-nuclear-deal.pdf

That's just a clever way of wording it by the Traitor in Chief (Zarif).
When it says Iran will abide by [something], it means that it is obligatory. Calling it a voluntary commitment doesn't change the fact that it is obligatory for Iran to execute it during the JCPOA.

 

[yavar]

TEHRAN – Iran has stopped the voluntary implementation of the Additional Protocol to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT)

Iran halts implementation of Additional Protocol

TEHRAN – Iran has stopped the voluntary implementation of the Additional Protocol to the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) as the United States failed to lift the sanctions it imposed on Iran during the Trump administration.

www.tehrantimes.com

it is in period of i think 10 t0 15 years,
so i think it will end next year or 5 year later,

it does not matter we are here talking about ligally and by international law

That's just a clever way of wording it by the Traitor in Chief (Zarif).